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Cannibalism
#4437199 - 07/22/05 07:29 AM (18 years, 8 months ago) |
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Would you, under any circumstances, resort to cannibalism to feed yourself?
For the sake of this poll, we will assume that you don't have to actually kill someone before you eat them. Say you get in a plane crash in the arctic (like the movie Alive) and some of the people in the plane die in the crash...would you eat them to stay alive?
Or say a famine broke out and you (and everyone else around you) started to starve to death...would you eat the ones who die first, to keep yourself alive?
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Re: Cannibalism [Re: trendal]
#4437211 - 07/22/05 07:33 AM (18 years, 8 months ago) |
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Of course. Meat is meat, I'm not gonna die. It'd help if I hadn't known them... If it was my mother or my girlfriend then maybe I wouldn't be quite as quick to devour them... but it'd probably be what they wanted.
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Re: Cannibalism [Re: trendal]
#4437213 - 07/22/05 07:34 AM (18 years, 8 months ago) |
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Fuck yes they're dead. I need to live dammit.
*insert I eat babies joke*
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Re: Cannibalism [Re: mr_kite]
#4437216 - 07/22/05 07:35 AM (18 years, 8 months ago) |
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Yes, everyone is a cannibal.....when you are in your mother you eat some flesh and guts and fluids...we are all cannibals before we even know what a cannibal is
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Re: Cannibalism [Re: mr_kite]
#4437218 - 07/22/05 07:35 AM (18 years, 8 months ago) |
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Yeah I think in the end hunger would overcome any aversion I have towards eating another human.
I certainly wouldn't be able to kill someone in order to eat them...but if they're already dead they won't miss their flesh
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Re: Cannibalism [Re: mr_kite]
#4437219 - 07/22/05 07:35 AM (18 years, 8 months ago) |
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Yes, I'd do whatever to survive. I'd have to man. But you know who I'd eat first? TRENDAL!
j/k
But seriously, If it came down to me dying or me surviving and eating a bit of human flesh, I choose to live.
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Re: Cannibalism [Re: trendal]
#4437222 - 07/22/05 07:36 AM (18 years, 8 months ago) |
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Imagine shitting human out your ass? "That steaming pile of shit is your mother"...
Would you then eat the shit of the flesh to exist a few days longer?
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Re: Cannibalism [Re: mr_kite]
#4437227 - 07/22/05 07:38 AM (18 years, 8 months ago) |
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No I'm quite sure that human shit doesn't have much, if any, nutritional value
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Re: Cannibalism [Re: trendal]
#4437248 - 07/22/05 07:48 AM (18 years, 8 months ago) |
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I couldn't kill and eat them I don't think but if they were already dead I would resort to cannabilism. Especially once the real hunger started setting in.
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Re: Cannibalism [Re: trendal]
#4437283 - 07/22/05 08:02 AM (18 years, 8 months ago) |
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Sure, no Mexicans though cuz they are spicy and id prbably have to conserve water too.
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Re: Cannibalism [Re: buckwheat]
#4437285 - 07/22/05 08:05 AM (18 years, 8 months ago) |
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It's good to take everything into consideration.
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Re: Cannibalism [Re: trendal]
#4437338 - 07/22/05 08:30 AM (18 years, 8 months ago) |
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If I were just prolonging death by eating a few chunks of human, I think I'd prefer to waste away.
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What if we're tasty?
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Re: Cannibalism [Re: Phluck]
#4437346 - 07/22/05 08:33 AM (18 years, 8 months ago) |
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Maybe if there were a vegan around I'd have a little feast.
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Re: Cannibalism [Re: Trav]
#4437355 - 07/22/05 08:35 AM (18 years, 8 months ago) |
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Quote:
Trav said:
It's good to take everything into consideration.
Take this into consideration : Prions
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Re: Cannibalism [Re: Psiloman]
#4437365 - 07/22/05 08:39 AM (18 years, 8 months ago) |
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Prion diseases, like Kuru, are only really common among cannibal tribes....so unless you happen to be stuck among a tribe of cannibals when you go hungry...you don't have a very big chance of catching a prion disease.
Besides, most cases of prion disease (like BSE) in humans are attributable to animal meats...not human meat.
Because the human form of BSE, vCJD, is so rare your chances of accidentally eating someone who has it are very low.
Besides...if you're already going to die from starvation, why would you be so worried about the slim risk of catching a prion?
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Re: Cannibalism [Re: trendal]
#4437370 - 07/22/05 08:41 AM (18 years, 8 months ago) |
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I dont think I would eat the meat sitting around for a while. WHenever hungry I think I would kill a survivor of the crash and eat them.
Healthiest goes first
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Re: Cannibalism [Re: Psiloman]
#4437372 - 07/22/05 08:42 AM (18 years, 8 months ago) |
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Kuru. Awesome.
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Re: Cannibalism [Re: trendal]
#4437381 - 07/22/05 08:45 AM (18 years, 8 months ago) |
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As a last resort, of course. I wouldn't be sleeping at night
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Re: Cannibalism [Re: PriitK]
#4437392 - 07/22/05 08:48 AM (18 years, 8 months ago) |
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Quote:
when you are in your mother you eat some flesh and guts and fluids...
My partner is a Midwife and the answer to that is "total bollocks"!
You do drink amniotic fluid, not really comparable to cannabalism though is it?
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Re: Cannibalism [Re: trendal]
#4437409 - 07/22/05 08:56 AM (18 years, 8 months ago) |
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How long could one go in Arctic conditions without starving do you think?
I haven't seen Alive so I don't know how Arctic you're talking about. One could eat mosses and barks for a few weeks to survive and work towards relocating somewhere more suitable. Finding nourishment elsewhere would be my first instinct. I'd probably be dead in the snow miles away while the others were eating each other
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Re: Cannibalism [Re: Organic]
#4437411 - 07/22/05 08:58 AM (18 years, 8 months ago) |
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ever read stranger in a strange land?
it woudl be a growing closer
yum!
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I really don't know, I'll have to wait and see when I crash. I'm sure when my body goes into enough shock and my bio survival circuit kicks in it might seem a lot more tempting than now, but then again it all depends, who knows, maybe my shock would just put me in a acatatonic state, and I would be the one that got eaten. Being in that situation would effect everyone different. I just can't say.
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Re: Cannibalism [Re: Todcasil]
#4437430 - 07/22/05 09:03 AM (18 years, 8 months ago) |
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After reading the description of Stranger in a Strange Land, I'll be reading it soon. Sounds really interesting
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Re: Cannibalism [Re: trendal]
#4437434 - 07/22/05 09:05 AM (18 years, 8 months ago) |
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In the end you're only really prolonging death anyway if its some sort of famine. I'd rather just waste away, and go in a dignified manner, or go hunt/gather rather than relying on the most convenient source of food. Or if it was a situation like alive I wouldn't be a pussy and wait for rescue, I'd actually try to make it to an area where I could either survive off the land or get to civilization. Cannibablism is for the weak.
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Re: Cannibalism [Re: trendal]
#4437437 - 07/22/05 09:07 AM (18 years, 8 months ago) |
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Cannabalism is just another way to recycle!
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Re: Cannibalism [Re: Le_Canard]
#4437442 - 07/22/05 09:09 AM (18 years, 8 months ago) |
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a bit of pesto sauce, maby a salad... a glass of wine.
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Re: Cannibalism [Re: Organic]
#4437449 - 07/22/05 09:12 AM (18 years, 8 months ago) |
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Quote:
Organic said: After reading the description of Stranger in a Strange Land, I'll be reading it soon. Sounds really interesting
That is my absolute favorite book! i highly recomend the unedited version as it adds something like 200,000 words ( i think its more actually)..
but the original story and the mass marketed story arre two completly different beasts, and Heinleins original version is (of course) the more superior view on the human condition.
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Re: Cannibalism [Re: Organic]
#4437456 - 07/22/05 09:14 AM (18 years, 8 months ago) |
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In the movie they crash in the arctic...like nothing but snow and ice for hundreds and hundreds of miles.
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Re: Cannibalism [Re: Twister]
#4437458 - 07/22/05 09:16 AM (18 years, 8 months ago) |
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Or if it was a situation like alive I wouldn't be a pussy and wait for rescue, I'd actually try to make it to an area where I could either survive off the land or get to civilization. Cannibablism is for the weak.
Um...isn't that what they did, in the movie? Try to move around to find rescue?
Because I'm really sure you could hike 200 miles through nothing but snow and ice with no food, then be able to set up a life for yourself in the tundra at the end of your 200 mile hike
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Re: Cannibalism [Re: Todcasil]
#4437467 - 07/22/05 09:20 AM (18 years, 8 months ago) |
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Thanks man, I was wondering which one to pick up.
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Re: Cannibalism [Re: trendal]
#4437469 - 07/22/05 09:22 AM (18 years, 8 months ago) |
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I bet people are pretty tasty.
Yum yum.
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Re: Cannibalism [Re: trendal]
#4437470 - 07/22/05 09:22 AM (18 years, 8 months ago) |
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Why were they flying over the arctic? I guess I have a hard time picturing myself flying over & crashing in barren polar tundra.
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Re: Cannibalism [Re: Todcasil]
#4437476 - 07/22/05 09:25 AM (18 years, 8 months ago) |
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I thought Alive was about the soccer team that was in a plane crash in the Andes, but I guess I was mistaken. Anyways, I guess if I was in the Arctic what I would do would be to take the clothing of the dead, bundle myself up and walk south. At night I would fashion some sort of snow shelter for warmth. There are still things that live in the Arctic, so, being resourceful, I would try to survive off the land. With a defeatist attitude you're probably gonna die anyway so what would even be the point of eating human flesh. So i still stand by my resolution not to resort to cannabilism.
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Re: Cannibalism [Re: Twister]
#4437484 - 07/22/05 09:27 AM (18 years, 8 months ago) |
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Who said I have a defeatist attitude?
The whole point of resorting to cannibalism is the idea that one would be willing to go to any extreme in order to survive.
That's not a defeatist attitude, that's a realistic attitude.
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Re: Cannibalism [Re: Organic]
#4437487 - 07/22/05 09:30 AM (18 years, 8 months ago) |
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Organic said: Why were they flying over the arctic? I guess I have a hard time picturing myself flying over & crashing in barren polar tundra.
I think alive was actually about a soccer team that was flying over the Andes and crashed. Instead of sending out people to look for help initially, they just sat back, ate their buddies and waited to be rescued. After a while they realized that nobody would find them so they sent the strongest people out to find help, which they did. The problem I have with their method was that instead of just sending people out initially, when they would have been the strongest, they waited until later when everyone would have been physically dwindling. I stand by my statement that cannabilism is for the weak, both of mind and body.
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Re: Cannibalism [Re: Twister]
#4437488 - 07/22/05 09:31 AM (18 years, 8 months ago) |
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No actually you're right, Alive was about the rugby team that crashed in the Andes. It's been years since I've seen the whole movie.
That doesn't change the concept much, though, as I'm sure most parts of the Andes are just as remote/isolated as the arctic is.
I just wanted to use it as an example of where cannibalism without murder could be an option for survival.
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Re: Cannibalism [Re: trendal]
#4437504 - 07/22/05 09:40 AM (18 years, 8 months ago) |
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Quote:
trendal said: No actually you're right, Alive was about the rugby team that crashed in the Andes. It's been years since I've seen the whole movie.
That doesn't change the concept much, though, as I'm sure most parts of the Andes are just as remote/isolated as the arctic is.
I just wanted to use it as an example of where cannibalism without murder could be an option for survival.
The people involved in the crash acted in a terrible manner in my opinion. The fact that the people that went for help found it shows that it really wasn't as terrible a situation as they thought. In my opinion they had a pessimistic attitude, bordering on defeatist. My point is that there is usually a way out of a situation other than the easiest one, in this case cannibalism.
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Re: Cannibalism [Re: trendal]
#4438845 - 07/22/05 03:55 PM (18 years, 8 months ago) |
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Ever since reading "Stranger In a Strange Land" I have a romanticised view of canibalism. I would like to be eaten by friends and family when I die.
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Re: Cannibalism [Re: trendal]
#4438859 - 07/22/05 03:59 PM (18 years, 8 months ago) |
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Does there have to be a famine or life or death situation? I'd just do it if I wouldn't get charged with a murder. I would have to cook it, though, and some parts I bet are real tough meat.
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Re: Cannibalism [Re: Adden]
#4438865 - 07/22/05 04:01 PM (18 years, 8 months ago) |
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Re: Cannibalism [Re: trendal]
#4438880 - 07/22/05 04:04 PM (18 years, 8 months ago) |
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My instincts tell me that yes I probably would,if they were already dead - rather than starving to death.
While we're on the topic, check out this site, the alternative human meat substitute, crazy shit.
HUFU
So I pose the next question, would ya try it?
I must say, I'm intrigued.
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Yuck, when they're dead already? Wouldn't you want fresh human rather than spoiled human?
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Re: Cannibalism [Re: Twister]
#4439605 - 07/22/05 07:24 PM (18 years, 8 months ago) |
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Fuck yeah I'd cannibalize! Screw starving to death!
The book "Alive" is an amazing story. The people there did not act in an irrational way at all. They thought a rescue was coming right from the start. As time dragged on and things got desperate they had no choice but to starve or eat the dead. And they did not sit around doing nothing. They hiked all over the mountain trying to do what they thought was best. In the end 3 men hiked out over some of the most inhospitable terrain to summon help for the survivors. They managed to survive 2 1/2 months in a place where no human was meant to be, and they ate a lot of their friends to do so.
If you ever end up in that situation with me, well, you have my permission to eat me....because you can be damn sure I'll eat you if you die first!!
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Oh yeah, and 'Soylent Green' is some good shit!
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Re: Cannibalism [Re: trendal]
#4439628 - 07/22/05 07:30 PM (18 years, 8 months ago) |
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if anyone ever ate my flesh, they'd be in for one helluva trip.
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Re: Cannibalism [Re: DoctorJ]
#4439647 - 07/22/05 07:32 PM (18 years, 8 months ago) |
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yea... i dont think id eat someone to live. i dont have that much of the will to live. not that its cause its a person, its cause eating another human will make u feel very sick. if i knew i was goin to starve to death id figure a way out to kill my self without starving to death
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hell yeah i would eat someone i killed its the perfect crime
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haha good luck chewing through bone (but yea it would be the perfect crime.... unless cops get a sample of ur shit and find bone fragments)
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its cause eating another human will make u feel very sick
What makes you think that?
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