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OfflineWakingLife
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Are these active? Need help on ID.
    #4436313 - 07/22/05 02:20 AM (11 years, 11 months ago)

Habitat: Growing from the underneath and streching up and around the side of cow shit.

Gills: Black. Very close. Unattached.

Spore print: Jet black.

Stem: Dark brown. When touched bruise purple. 3-5 inches. Thin.

Cap: 1 - 1 1/2 inches. Dark charcoal at the top fading to brown. Smooth.

Scent: No apparent scent.

Location: Bible belt.

Any info is greatly appreciated.  :mushroom2:Thanks.:mushroom2:

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Re: Are these active? Need help on ID. [Re: WakingLife]
    #4436342 - 07/22/05 02:25 AM (11 years, 11 months ago)

Those are not Panaeolus subbalteatus, which means they are most likely an inactive pan, which i do not recognize. Although, I have found some of the same in my searches.


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Re: Are these active? Need help on ID. [Re: flowstone]
    #4436470 - 07/22/05 03:01 AM (11 years, 11 months ago)

Don't take my word for it, but they do look like pan subs to me just found some myself the other day and they looked just like that.


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Re: Are these active? Need help on ID. [Re: boomboomshroom]
    #4436498 - 07/22/05 03:09 AM (11 years, 11 months ago)

Look at the cap.. see how even the most mature specimens have a bell shaped cap? That clearly rules them out as subbs. Not to mention the grey gills, thinner stem, and if you look closely the lack of lines where the stem joins the cap. Just look at the signs. Thank god there is no poisonous or deadly pan look alike beyond stomach discomfort or I swear there would be thousands of deaths.


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Re: Are these active? Need help on ID. [Re: flowstone]
    #4436634 - 07/22/05 03:41 AM (11 years, 11 months ago)

look like pan. camps, inactive and not edible.


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Re: Are these active? Need help on ID. [Re: cwbfromtheksvi]
    #4437139 - 07/22/05 09:01 AM (11 years, 11 months ago)

I think Panaeolus papillionaces. That "purple" bruising is actually brown my friend.


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Re: Are these active? Need help on ID. [Re: Lysergic_Milkman]
    #4442722 - 07/23/05 01:47 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

I'm not so sure that they are Panaeolus papilionaceus. All of the pan paps that I've seen in pics are more conical(as aposed to bell shaped) and have teeth. I might be wrong though. Thanks for the help guys. I still never got a positive id...so I'm just gonna toss em.


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Re: Are these active? Need help on ID. [Re: WakingLife]
    #4443296 - 07/23/05 04:08 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

i agree with cwb, panaeolus campanulatus.


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Re: Are these active? Need help on ID. [Re: Shrum821]
    #4443695 - 07/23/05 06:10 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

Panaeolus campanulatus and Panaeolus papilionaceus are very similar, i thought id just throw a suggestion out there.  :wink: :tongue:


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Re: Are these active? Need help on ID. [Re: Lysergic_Milkman]
    #4444113 - 07/23/05 08:26 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

Those look like some of the non active mushrooms I find in Hawaii. There is another mushroom that looks similar, but has a slightly different cap color and a white stem that bruises blue. My guess is that they are non active, but look around where you found them or in a near by field because the active ones usually grow where they grow. But don't take my word for it.

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