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???Substitution for brf for pf tek???
    #4433760 - 07/21/05 04:16 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

HI I can't find brf anywere. I'm new and I want to use pf tek: Is there any thing I can substitute fir brf???? I looked all over the posts and could'nt fin the answer.


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Re: ???Substitution for brf for pf tek??? [Re: jack324]
    #4433775 - 07/21/05 04:19 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Just blend your own. Good'ol Uncle Ben's brown rice works fine.


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Re: ???Substitution for brf for pf tek??? [Re: Hotnuts]
    #4433792 - 07/21/05 04:22 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

does it have to be organic kind ?


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Re: ???Substitution for brf for pf tek??? [Re: jack324]
    #4433857 - 07/21/05 04:35 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

I went to the flour (baking needs) food section of my supermarket...took a little bit of searching but I ended up finding this under the ogranic rack and ALL of the ingredients I needed for my PF tek except vermiculite which I later acquired at a home garden shop. Better safe than sorry, even call them up and ask them to check their inventory.


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Re: ???Substitution for brf for pf tek??? [Re: jack324]
    #4433878 - 07/21/05 04:40 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

don't you have a health food store in your area? arrowhead mills BRF can be found in those.


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Re: ???Substitution for brf for pf tek??? [Re: Smallworlds]
    #4433909 - 07/21/05 04:46 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

yes it has to be organic...the non-organic type will most likely have fungicides that will most likely kill the spores you inject


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Re: ???Substitution for brf for pf tek??? [Re: jack324]
    #4433935 - 07/21/05 04:54 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

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does it have to be organic kind ?




Like I said. Good'ol Uncle Ben's works great. Rice from a health food store is pricey. So why buy it? It performs no better at all.


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Re: ???Substitution for brf for pf tek??? [Re: Hotnuts]
    #4433967 - 07/21/05 05:00 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

None of the health stores have it. How do you grind uncle ben's


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Re: ???Substitution for brf for pf tek??? [Re: jack324]
    #4433991 - 07/21/05 05:06 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

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None of the health stores have it. How do you grind uncle ben's




Avoid health food stores for brown rice man. It's a waste of money. Go to your local grocery store and get your rice. Use a blender only filled about a 1/4 of the way up to flour the rice with. If you over fill it, it will be a bitch to grind up.


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Re: ???Substitution for brf for pf tek??? [Re: Hotnuts]
    #4435825 - 07/22/05 12:01 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

i used rye flour and i must say it is working out excellent :laugh:


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Re: ???Substitution for brf for pf tek??? [Re: Impulse101]
    #4435841 - 07/22/05 12:05 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

i've been using groung pig feed. i haven't proven the substitution yet but i'm probably less than 2 weeks from getting my first pins.


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Re: ???Substitution for brf for pf tek??? [Re: Impulse101]
    #4435891 - 07/22/05 12:17 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

There was a post a few months ago about someone who used uncle ben's rice... The shrooms grew very fast and plentiful, but had just about zero potency... The poster ended up stabbing the shrooms with a sword and tossing them in the garbage can. Very nice pics in that post... Cannot find it now, but anyways why not try WBS? Im not sure about the potency of shrooms grown 100% on WBS, but as far as colonization goes IME it is top notch. For high potency shrooms you want to use compost or h-poo. The ideal situation would be to start w/ the WBS and then add the fully colonized WBS to compost or h-poo...

If you are leaning towards cakes then I dont know what to tell you other then to maybe try a casing... Casings really dont take up anymore room if done properly and the yield is much more pleasing. If you read the tek and follow it the difficulty level is not really any different then the cake tek.

Just my two cents for what it is worth  :rolleyes:


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Re: ???Substitution for brf for pf tek??? [Re: kimikiri]
    #4436156 - 07/22/05 01:28 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

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There was a post a few months ago about someone who used uncle ben's rice... The shrooms grew very fast and plentiful, but had just about zero potency... The poster ended up stabbing the shrooms with a sword and tossing them in the garbage can. Very nice pics in that post... Cannot find it now, but anyways why not try WBS? Im not sure about the potency of shrooms grown 100% on WBS, but as far as colonization goes IME it is top notch. For high potency shrooms you want to use compost or h-poo. The ideal situation would be to start w/ the WBS and then add the fully colonized WBS to compost or h-poo...

If you are leaning towards cakes then I dont know what to tell you other then to maybe try a casing... Casings really dont take up anymore room if done properly and the yield is much more pleasing. If you read the tek and follow it the difficulty level is not really any different then the cake tek.

Just my two cents for what it is worth  :rolleyes:




False! I've grown cakes on good'ol Uncle Ben's for about 9 years now. Very good trips indeed. Don't post without some experience in the field please. There's no need to stear anyone in the wrong direction with wrong info on health food rices versus good'ol Uncle Ben's. The price and poundage are far superior with cheap rices versus health food rices any day of the week.


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Re: ???Substitution for brf for pf tek??? [Re: Hotnuts]
    #4436223 - 07/22/05 01:49 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

i read the same post about the bunk shrooms so...


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Re: ???Substitution for brf for pf tek??? [Re: Hotnuts]
    #4436229 - 07/22/05 01:52 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

At health food stores, sometimes ya gotta take charge. Ask em if they have what you want, If they don't have ArrowHead Mills stuff, tell em their not much of a health food store. Ask em if you can order it! than stock up on rye flour, rice flour and anything these guys say! Organic, of course. Than go get some uncle bens and get on with life. Remember, if it does not work, just clean the jar and start again. The mushroom growing teaches you to cut your losses! You have to fail a lot to succeed a little! (Old man Honda said that about motorcycles)


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Re: ???Substitution for brf for pf tek??? [Re: red914]
    #4436250 - 07/22/05 01:59 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

There's no since in having to cut losses. Who's in this to cut losses? We're trying to improve, rather than start again. That's why you should listen to guys (or gals) that have been through the BS so you can skip these head aches. That's what these forums are for.


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Re: ???Substitution for brf for pf tek??? [Re: Hotnuts]
    #4436388 - 07/22/05 02:38 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

open your yellow pages phone book and look under health food stores/natural/organic food stores. instead of driving all around town, just call them instead. it saves hours and days or searching.

if worst comes to worst you can order off the net.

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Re: ???Substitution for brf for pf tek??? [Re: prosthetics]
    #4436870 - 07/22/05 04:28 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

quite true. I have nocced up appx. 30 jars in the past two months. With many different types of substrate. I have two, just TWO fully colonized jars. I have cased one (leaving some in the bottom and refilling, which by the way looks to be working very well) and am going to case the other jar tomorrow. Some of them didn't do anyting but stink, others are 50%-70% and seem to be stalled. This is my first attempt, many failures to achieve few successes.
As for potency, I cannot speak from experience, although I have been doing my homework, I understand WBS, or more specifically, the millet IN WBS gives the shrooms a really good start, and (agreeing again) h-pooh or compost as a casing produces very potent shrooms. Hopefully I will find out...er, um...more detailed information...soon.
The colonized jars contain whole brown rice, WBS and a little pooh.
That's all I know so far. Good luck friend. :poopbanana:


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Re: ???Substitution for brf for pf tek??? [Re: austio_ferocious]
    #4437557 - 07/22/05 12:14 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Hotnutz, I know how hard you work to guide people in the right direction. I reread my statement and realize it is offensive to you and I apologize. It was in the context of dealing with stores, not growing mushrooms. I realize that this process is about keeping at it, making adjustments and figuring out the details that make the hobby so fun. Sorry


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Re: ???Substitution for brf for pf tek??? [Re: iateshaggy]
    #4437562 - 07/22/05 12:18 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

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i read the same post about the bunk shrooms so...




I think that was done on Uncle Ben's WHITE rice. White rice doesn't have the right nutrients to make proper mushrooms.

If you can't get BRF try barley, I buy it in a bag labelled "Pot Barley" and grind it myself. I've heard barley is high in tryptophan so it will also make potent mushrooms. I'm going to make a post in a bit showing the agressive mycelium growth I'm gettting with this barley, I'm excited about how it will work!


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