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ALL my LC have failed!!
    #4432964 - 07/21/05 10:52 AM (18 years, 6 months ago)

OK All of my LC have failed And I think it's because of the Karo. I am using RK 96cc water 4cc Karo PC for 45min. @10psi. I think I might go and get some light corn syrup, what do you guys think??


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Re: ALL my LC have failed!! [Re: thremix]
    #4432978 - 07/21/05 10:55 AM (18 years, 6 months ago)

I dont think changing to light corn syrup will solve your problems (did you read the bottle of Karo to read what it is?). How exactly did you fail?


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Re: ALL my LC have failed!! [Re: thremix]
    #4432990 - 07/21/05 10:58 AM (18 years, 6 months ago)

wouldn't it camelize if PCed 45 minutes? roadkill says 20 min at 15 psi.


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Re: ALL my LC have failed!! [Re: thremix]
    #4433003 - 07/21/05 11:01 AM (18 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

for 45min. @10psi.



might be too long.

I only pressure cook for 20 minutes at 15 psi.

Quote:

I think I might go and get some light corn syrup




I use Karo brand...light corn syrup.
with real vanilla


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Re: ALL my LC have failed!! [Re: Roadkill]
    #4433016 - 07/21/05 11:05 AM (18 years, 6 months ago)

vanilla?


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Re: ALL my LC have failed!! [Re: Smallworlds]
    #4433059 - 07/21/05 11:21 AM (18 years, 6 months ago)



yeah it has real vanilla in it.


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Re: ALL my LC have failed!! [Re: Roadkill]
    #4433068 - 07/21/05 11:22 AM (18 years, 6 months ago)

and what is the benefit of the vanilla?


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Re: ALL my LC have failed!! [Re: Smallworlds]
    #4433090 - 07/21/05 11:28 AM (18 years, 6 months ago)

The benefit is not looking for Karo without the vanilla, I havnt seen any yet.

hotnutz also does his LC's using only pure vanilla extract (2 tblspoons to 500ml) so I'm guessing vanilla extract is nutritious.


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Re: ALL my LC have failed!! [Re: scatmanrav]
    #4433097 - 07/21/05 11:32 AM (18 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

scatmanrav said:

The benefit is not looking for Karo without the vanilla, I havnt seen any yet.

hotnutz also does his LC's using only pure vanilla extract (2 tblspoons to 500ml) so I'm guessing vanilla extract is nutritious.




I haven't seen any Karo lately without label saying real vanilla in it either.

and several people are using pure vanilla extract to make LC's now...like you said scat.

so...

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Re: ALL my LC have failed!! [Re: Roadkill]
    #4433106 - 07/21/05 11:37 AM (18 years, 6 months ago)

While we are talking about LC's, how long will a sterile uninoculated LC medium stay good for ?

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Re: ALL my LC have failed!! [Re: HippieChick]
    #4433164 - 07/21/05 11:51 AM (18 years, 6 months ago)

funny, all i can find is karo regular. No karo light, and no karo with vanilla. All my LC's have seemed to failed as well.


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Re: ALL my LC have failed!! [Re: HippieChick]
    #4433165 - 07/21/05 11:51 AM (18 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah, PURE vanilla extract is a good food for LC's. If you look at the nutritional data of PURE vanilla extract though, there's like no nutrition at all. LOL! With the exception of Potassium, a key building block for plant life.

HC, if it's been properly sterilized it should last for quite some time. Months or years! If you're not going to use it for a while, cover the lid with foil and pop it in the fridge to keep possible bacterias from breeding.


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Re: ALL my LC have failed!! [Re: Hotnuts]
    #4433203 - 07/21/05 12:02 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

I did. I just used one I made 0n 3-15, worked fine. Thats why I was curious.

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Won't some of the sugars still breakdown ? I have a reason for asking this :thumbup:


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Re: ALL my LC have failed!! [Re: Hotnuts]
    #4433215 - 07/21/05 12:04 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

According to Mccormicks website, their PURE vanilla extract ingredients:

VANILLA BEAN EXTRACTIVES IN WATER, ALCOHOL (35%), AND CORN SYRUP.

Beans I'm sure contain some sort of nutrition (maybe not for us, but for mycelium) and theres corn syrup.

Upon further looking I also found this:

Note: To make your own vanilla extract, place 1 whole vanilla bean, cut in half lengthwise, into 3/4 cup (180 ml) of vodka. Cover tightly and let steep for 6 months before using.

1 whole vanilla bean = 2 - 3 teaspoons of vanilla extract


And this:

The FDA requires that pure vanilla extract contain 13.35 ounces of vanilla beans per gallon of liquid and contain 35% alcohol. This is called one-fold vanilla extract and is what you find in stores. Nielsen-Massey Madagascar Bourbon Pure Vanilla Extract is an excellent vanilla that can be found in specialty food stores and by mail order. There are two fold and three fold extracts, called essences, but these are very strong and are mainly used by professionals. Do not add vanilla extract to hot liquids as the alcohol evaporates, along with some of the vanilla flavor.

When buying vanilla extract make sure it is labeled "pure". The imitation vanilla extracts are made with synthetic vanilla (from glycoside found in the sapwood of certain conifers or from coal extracts) and leave a bitter aftertaste. Products labeled Vanilla Flavoring are a combination of pure vanilla extract and imitation vanilla extract.


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Growing with bags, start to finish (including my new grain and substrate prep)
Anyone looking to start bulk tubs/mono tubs/shotgun hybrids? Good tubs to use..
How I do grain (old still good tips)
Turn your closet into a fruiting chamber
Casing layer colonization and overlay


Edited by scatmanrav (07/21/05 12:09 PM)


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Re: ALL my LC have failed!! [Re: HippieChick]
    #4433239 - 07/21/05 12:10 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

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I did. I just used one I made 0n 3-15, worked fine. Thats why I was curious.

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Won't some of the sugars still breakdown ? I have a reason for asking this :thumbup:




While its just sitting there? I dont think so...I've used LC mediums after many months...3-6 or something I dunno..they work and still lasted months beyond that with growth in them in the fridge. I guess anyway, I havnt tried any of them to recently.


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Growing with bags, start to finish (including my new grain and substrate prep)
Anyone looking to start bulk tubs/mono tubs/shotgun hybrids? Good tubs to use..
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Turn your closet into a fruiting chamber
Casing layer colonization and overlay


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Re: ALL my LC have failed!! [Re: scatmanrav]
    #4433301 - 07/21/05 12:27 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

It was a 1/2 pint, one of the first 12 I made. I used way to much Karo. I think like a tablespoon for 6 ounces water. Well, I put 1 CC multispore in each of the 12 to see what would happen. It was a dark yellowish color. I had 12 like this. 6 worked, 6 did nothing. I guess 2 sweet for them to germinate and grow ?

Anyhow, I kept them around just to watch and see what happens. Over the last few months, nothing has grown and the color has lightened a bit.

Well. I have bunches of LC now, gallons actually, and had some left in a syringe the other day. Decided what the heck and shot a CC in two of these jars. 10 days later they are ready to go. Just wondering why they worked now and not 4 months ago ?

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Re: ALL my LC have failed!! [Re: HippieChick]
    #4433402 - 07/21/05 12:44 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

Coda I think you know what I'm talking about Lil. 3 so far with nothing!! So I went and I got light Karo I think that MIGHT help I'll try it. So PC for 45min @10psi is to long? How long should it go? I also failed with the microwave, by fail I mean I don't see how Karo is so easy I can't get any thing white!


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Re: ALL my LC have failed!! [Re: thremix]
    #4433428 - 07/21/05 12:49 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

So how dose one messure 4cc? not by tsp right? I think thats where I went wrong, I put 200cc water to 2 tsp of karo.


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Re: ALL my LC have failed!! [Re: thremix]
    #4433465 - 07/21/05 12:58 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

:rolleyes: You said you were using 4cc of water to 96cc water. How would you measure 4cc...well how do you measure 4cc's of spores?

15-20 minutes is plenty of time to sterilize a liquid medium, any more and you carmilize the sugars.


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Casing layer colonization and overlay


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24:1 ratio = 2 teaspoons karo added to 1/2 pint of water [Re: scatmanrav]
    #4433477 - 07/21/05 01:00 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)



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Re: ALL my LC have failed!! [Re: thremix]
    #4433478 - 07/21/05 01:01 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

If you've got extra empty syringe around, that would be a perfect measuring device. I think that the small measuring spoons have ml's on them as well.


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Re: ALL my LC have failed!! [Re: Hotnuts]
    #4433493 - 07/21/05 01:03 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

Actually! 1 teaspoon= 5mills


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Re: ALL my LC have failed!! [Re: scatmanrav]
    #4433692 - 07/21/05 01:58 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

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:rolleyes: You said you were using 4cc of water to 96cc water. How would you measure 4cc...well how do you measure 4cc's of spores?

15-20 minutes is plenty of time to sterilize a liquid medium, any more and you carmilize the sugars.




LoL scat your crazy!! you crazy foo!! :twitchy: 4cc of spores comes from my syringe hehe.


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Re: ALL my LC have failed!! [Re: scatmanrav]
    #4433784 - 07/21/05 02:20 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

I used a syringe minus needle to measure out the honey and the water. 12cc syringe times 8 is 96, it was easy.


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Re: ALL my LC have failed!! [Re: Smallworlds]
    #4433865 - 07/21/05 02:37 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

what is grain lol, I ask and I ask but I don't get it. is it BRG? or rye, not sure what that is lol. I know bird seed and BRF, that's it. I guess my little mushroom world will be doomed for BRF and birdseed lol.


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Re: ALL my LC have failed!! [Re: thremix]
    #4433913 - 07/21/05 02:46 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

What is grain??? lol

Grain is:

a: A small, dry, one-seeded fruit of a cereal grass, having the fruit and the seed walls united: a single grain of wheat; gleaned the grains from the ground one at a time. Also called caryopsis.

b: The fruits of cereal grasses especially after having been harvested, considered as a group: The grain was stored in a silo.


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Re: ALL my LC have failed!! [Re: Smallworlds]
    #4433943 - 07/21/05 02:55 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

S0Oo grain is a wheat grain? Where would I find this "Wheat grain"


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Re: ALL my LC have failed!! [Re: thremix]
    #4433975 - 07/21/05 03:03 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

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S0Oo grain is a wheat grain? Where would I find this "Wheat grain"




Along with rice, millet, rye, wheat, corn, millo, and seeds that are derived from grain type of plant life. Grass seed is also a type of grain. Whole grains that is. Whole grains meaning unshucked.


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Re: ALL my LC have failed!! [Re: thremix]
    #4433999 - 07/21/05 03:07 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

"grain" is an entire category of plant material. Like hotnutz said, it includes many species, just as oranges, tangerines, and lemons are all "cirtus".


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Re: ALL my LC have failed!! [Re: Smallworlds]
    #4434551 - 07/21/05 04:59 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

OK so could I use Brown rice flour? full grain?


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Re: ALL my LC have failed!! [Re: thremix]
    #4434777 - 07/21/05 05:45 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

I've used wbs, rye, rice, straw, all floured with good results except the straw. My favorites are wbs, rice and rye seed. They all require the same amount of H20 and vermiculite for the pf tek.


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Re: ALL my LC have failed!! [Re: Hotnuts]
    #4435146 - 07/21/05 07:12 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

so hotnutz, by rice, are you talking about Brown rice? Full grain?


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Re: ALL my LC have failed!! [Re: thremix]
    #4435835 - 07/21/05 10:03 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

What is your mental impasse? I do not mean that in an insultive way.


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Re: ALL my LC have failed!! [Re: Smallworlds]
    #4435850 - 07/21/05 10:08 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

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What is your mental impasse? I do not mean that in an insultive way.





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Re: ALL my LC have failed!! [Re: thremix]
    #4435895 - 07/21/05 10:18 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

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So how dose one messure 4cc? not by tsp right? I think thats where I went wrong, I put 200cc water to 2 tsp of karo.




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Re: ALL my LC have failed!! [Re: Smallworlds]
    #4435915 - 07/21/05 10:23 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

Long as your all pulling your hair out on this discussion, Tell me...I made an LC, got some spores in it, spores not particularly clean or virgin, little leather skirts, coin changer, matress with sholder straps. Get the picture? Got this nice white cloud in the LC. Later, I put a bit of the cloud in some Rye (thats whole grain that holds up well to boiling) and I think the cloud was a green mold, nothing to do with my sleezy spores. The point: Do molds grow a cloud in LC like mushrooms do?


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Re: ALL my LC have failed!! [Re: red914]
    #4435988 - 07/21/05 10:40 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

ok i knocked up some karo with 190ml h2o to 1 tbs karo all i did was is got water to a roaring boil an put it in a half pint jar with karo let cool an shot up with 1cc spores. took awile but like 2weeks later i had a snot ball of myc.should i have pced.i had a problem with sucking it up though.what kind of a jar is best for this.is there a easy er way.does anyone have a pic of what there jar of lc looks like.any pics would be great.love this site.


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Re: ALL my LC have failed!! [Re: MindBent]
    #4435997 - 07/21/05 10:44 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

I use half pint wide mouth, single hole punched in the top with paper punch, bandade over hole. I use Hairy 3 inch #18 needle from vet to suck it up. It is huge! Shake the jar first, makes all the difference.


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Re: ALL my LC have failed!! [Re: red914]
    #4436009 - 07/21/05 10:46 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

so is the boil ,an not pc ok


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Re: ALL my LC have failed!! [Re: Smallworlds]
    #4436036 - 07/21/05 10:53 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

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What is your mental impasse? I do not mean that in an insultive way.




Well I never am one to fall to ?getting annoyed? and star insulting but I guess that would just be me. If you don?t ?get? what I?m not Getting then ask , don?t TRY to insult me then brush it off by saying it wasn?t an insult, that?s insulting in it self lol. Some people are good teachers and some people are not. You, from your comment, I take it you are not good at teaching people. You say grain, I say what?s grain, You say x,y,z , I say what x,y,z, could I use, d,or m? you say What are you not getting and focus on that.
You do not focus on me not ?getting it? you focus and getting what I am not and teaching this to me.

Or just stop posting on this thread all together and save your self all the trouble.

I don?t cook. When you say grain I think Brown rice flour grain, or wheat grain. I?m not sure where to go, in the store, and what to look for once I am there. That?s my ?mental impasse.?


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Re: ALL my LC have failed!! [Re: MindBent]
    #4436058 - 07/21/05 10:59 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

I have to PC everything I do. Im surrounded by farms, dirt, dust molds... As karo has no endo spores, ya might get away with it. Be sure to use hollowfil, tyvek or some other form of air exchange, don't want anyone dieing of Botulism!


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Re: ALL my LC have failed!! [Re: thremix]
    #4436089 - 07/21/05 11:06 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

grain refers to anything thats not flour.  WBS, Rye Berries, Rye, Grass seed etc.  Those are all grains.  When people here talk about grains they refer to the collective as a whole.  Brown rice whole is a grain, ground down its a flour. 

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Re: ALL my LC have failed!! [Re: red914]
    #4436093 - 07/21/05 11:07 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

Thremix, you are doing fine. Grain as it is used here is not part of cooking! I get it at a health food bulk area. I use rye, because it stands up to boiling the best, but you have to follow a procedure, as it has endospores in it which will bloom to something that looks kinda like snot, and smells like baby poop. EEEch! You can use all kinds, rice tends to get 'sticky' and makes it harder. Look for Rye tek on the tek area. Grass seed will even work. Mushrooms are funny! they don't follow our logic.


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Re: ALL my LC have failed!! [Re: red914]
    #4436100 - 07/21/05 11:09 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

The point is grain is grain, any grain. You name it. Cerial, rye, bird seed, millet, BRF, brown rice, white rice, wheat, oats, barley, ect ect ect.


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Re: ALL my LC have failed!! [Re: scatmanrav]
    #4436119 - 07/21/05 11:16 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

Ah!! yes. No longer am I stuck to BRF!! although the jars I maid are working and colonizing fast. Since I plan On KEEPING all of my harvest I think BRF is good for a small scale?? What's this I read about blood meal? I think Diver put up a post about this....? Thanks guys!!


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Re: ALL my LC have failed!! [Re: thremix]
    #4436129 - 07/21/05 11:21 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

I wouldnt mess with bloodmeal...get to poo first, get that working, then you can work on adding a nitrogen suppliment.

IMO, BRF only has a purpose in this hobby if you dont have a PC. Grains are a snap, for small or large scale.


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How I do grain (old still good tips)
Turn your closet into a fruiting chamber
Casing layer colonization and overlay


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Re: ALL my LC have failed!! [Re: thremix]
    #4436132 - 07/21/05 11:22 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

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so hotnutz, by rice, are you talking about Brown rice? Full grain?





Rice is rice. No matter what the nutritional values of white versus brown, versus long grains versus short. IMO, rice is rice for mushroom cultivation. I've used it all with good results from all of it.


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Re: ALL my LC have failed!! [Re: Hotnuts]
    #4436140 - 07/21/05 11:24 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

Thanks again to every one!! I will go to poo next.


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