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hulled millet
    #4432801 - 07/21/05 12:15 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

I just bought 500g hulled millet. Is it so bad if it's hulled? I figured it would be better if they were hulled. Why are they better unhulled?
I also wanted to ask if fresh corn is suitable for growing shrooms.
And I wanted to know if I can spawn to husk. It is similar to straw so I figured it would be right.
And how good are wheat and oat.
I thought about mixing some husk into the hulled millet.
So, what do you say? :confused: :confused: :confused:


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Re: hulled millet [Re: Phoenix99]
    #4432848 - 07/21/05 12:27 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

It may turn mushy when cooked. Hulls on grains keep them dry and shakeable. Whole wheat is as good as rye according to TMC, I use wheat. If you use oats they should be whole oats too.


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Re: hulled millet [Re: Phoenix99]
    #4432853 - 07/21/05 12:28 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Hulled=no shell=mush. I'd go buy the right stuff. No you cant spawn to husk, its not straw. Straws pretty shitty as it is, youd be better off with horse poo.


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Re: hulled millet [Re: scatmanrav]
    #4433018 - 07/21/05 01:06 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Thanks.
I think I'll go and buy the right stuff tomorrow. So wheat is pretty good you say. I think I'll make a mix of popcorn, wheat, millet and oats (??? - what about them, how good are they?).
I think I will experiment with the hulled millet too since I've got it, in separate jars.
One problem I thought of is if the cakes will stay together since I'm not using any verm. And another one is how I will get the cakes out of the jars because all the jars I have have the "neck" tighter than the interior (that's if the cakes will stay together).
I also thought about spawning those berries to more berries but I thought they would almost surely get contaminated.


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Re: hulled millet [Re: Phoenix99]
    #4433086 - 07/21/05 01:26 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Keep most of the popcorn, or all out of it. Millet alone is a good seed, use mostly that. Wheat I've heard works, never tried it. Oats, as in a grain? If its like a seed, and not oats like oat cereal or something that would turn to mush it would probably work. You are not using cakes, you break up the colonized grains and lay them in a flat casing container then spread a casing over it, maybe verm.

Spawning grains to grain can work, but needs to be done sterile and certain procedures you must follow, you can research "grain to grain transfers (G2G)". If you want to spawn, spawn that seed to horse poo and you'll get bigger, more potent mushies.



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Re: hulled millet [Re: scatmanrav]
    #4433317 - 07/21/05 02:32 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

I don't think I'm able to get vermiculite or horse poo.
And if I spawn the grains to grains then I'll mix them together right? I don' think I will however since this is my first time and I am not so sur if I can get everything sterile. And as a casing layer I think husk is good, right? If I only case them and not spawn them then there are less chances for them to get infested, right?
Thanks for all the support btw.


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Re: hulled millet [Re: Phoenix99]
    #4433356 - 07/21/05 02:37 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Where are you buying these grains? sounds like a health store. Normally grains like wheat or oats are crushed in health stores which is just as bad as hulled, they will go mushy. If you got verm you could make cakes with the millet, it is such a small grain it doesn't really need to be floured, but will need to be pc'd all the same.

Straight grains are not good for cakes with no verm, especially if you jar has a narrow neck. You can buy verm on ebay and most gardening centres. You are better off casing the grain, even if it is with ph adjusted peat moss alone.


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Re: hulled millet [Re: Phoenix99]
    #4433366 - 07/21/05 02:39 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

>And if I spawn the grains to grains then I'll mix them together right?

No. I said RESEARCH grain to grain transfers. Theres more to it then that.

>And as a casing layer I think husk is good

Husk? I have no idea what that is. Try starter mix, peat moss or coco coir. You'd be better off with verm. You can find a starter potting soil with no nutes and no fertilizers that is just peat moss with maybe verm, perlite and a buffer, as long as theres no nutrition or fertilizers, that stuff will work well to.

>If I only case them and not spawn them then there are less chances for them to get infested, right?

Not at all, but "spawn" refers to mixing spawn, with bulk, horse poo or straw, which you already said you didnt want to do.


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Turn your closet into a fruiting chamber
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Re: hulled millet [Re: scatmanrav]
    #4433410 - 07/21/05 02:45 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

scatmanrav said:

No. I said RESEARCH grain to grain transfers. Theres more to it then that.






That's the way with poo so I thought it's the same with grains, although I've seen it done other ways as well.


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Re: hulled millet [Re: Phoenix99]
    #4433451 - 07/21/05 02:54 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Poo is pasteurized so it is done that way. Grain is sterilized and there are more procautions and rules to follow, as well as more risks.


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Re: hulled millet [Re: scatmanrav]
    #4433510 - 07/21/05 03:07 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

IMHO, grains that are husked would prolly be a starch mess after sterilizing them.


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Re: hulled millet [Re: Phoenix99]
    #4433532 - 07/21/05 03:16 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

yeah..... too bad I don't have poo


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