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InvisibleSwami
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God, love and debate
    #4429053 - 07/20/05 03:41 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Note to mods: this is a self-locking thread. Go about your other duties.

My all time favorite and it is being replayed here today in several threads is:

"God is love, you fuckwit! Can't you see that we are all one, you blind asshole."

The irony is just too much. :rotfl:


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Re: God, love and debate [Re: Swami]
    #4429085 - 07/20/05 03:49 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

haha... your point?


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Re: God, love and debate [Re: PS_Cubes]
    #4429091 - 07/20/05 03:50 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Point?  :crazy: :confused:


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Re: God, love and debate [Re: Swami]
    #4429106 - 07/20/05 03:55 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Swami, if objects at rest stay at rest, what initiated the big bang and thus all other movement? Try not to be overly sarcastic (I do appreciate your cynicism though :smile:)


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Re: God, love and debate [Re: Swami]
    #4429111 - 07/20/05 03:56 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

Swami said:
Point?  :crazy: :confused:




Swami noticed some inconsistancies in others and was pointing them out. Just this once. :poke:


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Re: God, love and debate [Re: psyka]
    #4429127 - 07/20/05 03:58 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

his point is that some people who believe all is one are still trapped in a dualistic state of conciousness which he finds ironic.


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Re: God, love and debate [Re: Deviate]
    #4429150 - 07/20/05 04:04 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Thanks Deviate, I am appointing you as my official translator.  :thumbup:


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Re: God, love and debate [Re: Swami]
    #4429153 - 07/20/05 04:04 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Oh comeon... you suck. You dont speculate at all... do you?


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Re: God, love and debate [Re: Icelander]
    #4429155 - 07/20/05 04:05 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Swami noticed some inconsistancies in others and was pointing them out. Just this once.

Sometimes I have to stretch and go in an entirely new direction.


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Re: God, love and debate [Re: Swami]
    #4429189 - 07/20/05 04:13 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

Swami said:
Note to mods: this is a self-locking thread. Go about your other duties.

My all time favorite and it is being replayed here today in several threads is:

"God is love, you fuckwit! Can't you see that we are all one, you blind asshole."

The irony is just too much. :rotfl:




it's not so ironic, you are just expecting too much from us all


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Re: God, love and debate [Re: Deviate]
    #4429197 - 07/20/05 04:14 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

Deviate said:
his point is that some people who believe all is one are still trapped in a dualistic state of conciousness which he finds ironic.




No it's not, that is what he is counting on. So he can get away with what ever he feels is neccesary to shadow a insult or his complete disapproval at how S and P has been going on any givin day. Open your eyes :thumbup:


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Re: God, love and debate [Re: psyka]
    #4429215 - 07/20/05 04:18 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

psyka said:
Swami, if objects at rest stay at rest, what initiated the big bang and thus all other movement? Try not to be overly sarcastic (I do appreciate your cynicism though :smile:)




Well I may not be swami, but I'll give my answer to the question :wink:

The physical laws which govern this Universe probably did not even exist "before" this Universe came into being with the Big Bang.

Thus attempting to apply these laws, such as the Law of Inertia, to whatever existed "before" the Big Bang probably doesn't work at all. In fact even the phrase "before the Big Bang" doesn't make much sense because Time itself did not exist until the Big Bang.


In essence, any talk of what existed "before" the Big Bang occured cannot have much of a ground in science...because our science is a science of this Universe. Not what came before it.


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Re: God, love and debate [Re: Swami]
    #4429327 - 07/20/05 04:36 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I agree with Swami that this is an overriding pattern: talk about God, brotherhood, and love and then spew venom. This is vintage intolerance at it's best.


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Re: God, love and debate [Re: OldWoodSpecter]
    #4429332 - 07/20/05 04:38 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

you are just expecting too much from us all

One point I hammer on repeatedly is to actually believe in what you believe in. If one cannot, then one should not espouse it publicly as the desirable way to be or think or act.

This is fairly simple and straight-forward.


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Re: God, love and debate [Re: Fucknuckle]
    #4429349 - 07/20/05 04:41 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

The solution for you is simple. Use the ignore function and you will never have to read my posts again. Or perhaps you enjoy riling yourself up over my words...


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Re: God, love and debate [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #4429358 - 07/20/05 04:43 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

Huehuecoyotl said:
I agree with Swami that this is an overriding pattern: talk about God, brotherhood, and love and then spew venom. This is vintage intolerance at it's best.




Hum explain........ Give an example in the past week where you have seen this ? Because I sure would like to be aware when this is happening. Sounds like something to avoid


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Re: God, love and debate [Re: trendal]
    #4429365 - 07/20/05 04:44 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Thats like a totally sweet perspective, trendal dude. Never even considered that view :smile: I wish interesting topics would spring up requiring your input, more often.

- BTW, that sounds as illusive as "god" "itself"


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Re: God, love and debate [Re: Swami]
    #4429371 - 07/20/05 04:46 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

:rotfl:

"OOOOOOH!  Them's fightin' words, pardner...let's take this here fight OuTsiDe."

  :eek: :eek: :popcorn:


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Re: God, love and debate [Re: Swami]
    #4429380 - 07/20/05 04:48 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

Swami said:
The solution for you is simple. Use the ignore function and you will never have to read my posts again. Or perhaps you enjoy riling yourself up over my words...




You had your chance to talk about this you turned it down.

It is not an issue of ME or my getting "riled up over your words"

It is an issue of being honest....which you seem to avoid.

Ignore is not the best soulution


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Re: God, love and debate [Re: Veritas]
    #4429391 - 07/20/05 04:50 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Why do women get sexually aroused when men fight?  :rolleyes: (Not that there is a fight here.)

And I thought you were more evolved...  :tongue:


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Re: God, love and debate [Re: Fucknuckle]
    #4429396 - 07/20/05 04:52 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Turned it down? More fantasy?


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Re: God, love and debate [Re: Swami]
    #4429403 - 07/20/05 04:54 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

Swami said:
you are just expecting too much from us all

One point I hammer on repeatedly is to actually believe in what you believe in. If one cannot, then one should not espouse it publicly as the desirable way to be or think or act.

This is fairly simple and straight-forward.




You know very well that some people are emotionally immature and can not control their emotions. So all they can do about some beliefs is talk about them. Some people can not live their beliefs.

And one more thing, you seem to think that everything which is said on shroomery is someones belief, sometimes these are just words.
this is a discussion forum after all. If one is skilled in discussion, he can defend any subject from any side, regardless of his beliefs


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Re: God, love and debate [Re: OldWoodSpecter]
    #4429421 - 07/20/05 04:59 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Good point..... What a man says is not a direct conclusion on how one lives his life. To say what you know is truth does not mean that one is always in that truth. To strive for the goal is the path. When you hear a person say " I never make mistakes " or " I always do this or that " Then the ground work is laid to say " Hypocrite !

Until then that man is a fabable as men are.

Questions...... If a man has a flaw or makes mistakes percieved by others as such a mistake or flaw, does that make him unable to control his emotions ? At what point does the observer get to decided what is going on within another ?


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Re: God, love and debate [Re: Fucknuckle]
    #4429439 - 07/20/05 05:04 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

First you said I insulted everyone with this thread, then you agree with my point... :strokebeard:


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Re: God, love and debate [Re: Swami]
    #4429464 - 07/20/05 05:09 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Why do you associate popcorn with sexual arousal? I was just sitting down to watch the gunfight, pardner!

(The "OOOOH" was the angry sound cowboys make in old Westerns.)


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Re: God, love and debate [Re: Swami]
    #4429472 - 07/20/05 05:10 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

No I said simply that there is a hidden meaning in many of your threads. And the proof is in the fact you have threads locked almost everyday. See I am not going to let truth go by with out pointing it out that is all. You dance around truth disguised under you ability to transcend most intelligence. I just call it like I see it.


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Re: God, love and debate [Re: Veritas]
    #4429487 - 07/20/05 05:14 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Why do you associate popcorn with sexual arousal?

Don't know if I want to get into that publicly. It has to do with hot butter, but enough on that... PM me for details.

I noticed that you danced around the issue and did not flat-out deny my assertion.


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Re: God, love and debate [Re: Fucknuckle]
    #4429494 - 07/20/05 05:16 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Fucknuckle, don't overstate your case. Swami does not have treads locked down almost every day. Hehe, he will focus on this so he can distract you from your point. Hehe. :wink:


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Re: God, love and debate [Re: Fucknuckle]
    #4429512 - 07/20/05 05:20 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

you have a nice avatar, fuchnackle, we should make an avatar contest one day  :wink:


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Re: God, love and debate [Re: Swami]
    #4429532 - 07/20/05 05:25 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

It may be possiable for us to disscuss this further tommorow. I have got to go now. But let me finish with this

I do not dislike you. I sometimes am unhappy with your sneak talk. I do wish you would stop this continual......... Hum..... there is no good word for it.

In any case you will probley not and I will learn to deal with it as I have leaned to deal with many things. You know, I have had to deal with many people in my day call me out on every little detail that I do which goes against my beliefe's or that which I try to convey to others. But the point of everything I say comes from a need to share what has worked for me and what has worked for others. Living as Christ is not possiable 100% of the time. It is possiable to desiree it and strive for it 100% of the time. Somethings are hard to change others are not. Dealing with you has proven to be difficult. But that does not detract from any growth I have been through. And you Swami are a great learning curve for me.

My path is different from yours, yours different from mine.


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Re: God, love and debate [Re: Icelander]
    #4429542 - 07/20/05 05:28 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

Icelander said:
Fucknuckle, don't overstate your case. Swami does not have treads locked down almost every day. Hehe, he will focus on this so he can distract you from your point. Hehe. :wink:




Well I have not been in here for months and I can only reflect on the past week...... Which he has more than one thread locked. So maybe it only will happen when I am around.... There goes fucknuckle with his paranoid thoughts again.


I have to go out of town until friday time to catch a plane


Until then  :heart:


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Re: God, love and debate [Re: Fucknuckle]
    #4429545 - 07/20/05 05:30 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

But the point of everything I say comes from a need to share what has worked for me and what has worked for others. Living as Christ is not possiable 100% of the time. It is possiable to desiree it and strive for it 100% of the time. Somethings are hard to change others are not. Dealing with you has proven to be difficult. But that does not detract from any growth I have been through. And you Swami are a great learning curve for me.
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Now you're talkin Fucknuckle. :thumbup:


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Re: God, love and debate [Re: Swami]
    #4429548 - 07/20/05 05:31 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

If men fighting turned me on I would spend more time at bars!

Nah, I was just enjoying the fact that your trolling produced such a predictable and entertaining response...

1.  Poke with Stick "A"
2.  Observe Response "B"

Just like clockwork! (I'm a psychology major, BTW.)  :grin:


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Re: God, love and debate [Re: Veritas]
    #4429559 - 07/20/05 05:36 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Trolling?


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Re: God, love and debate [Re: Swami]
    #4429569 - 07/20/05 05:39 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

:whoa:


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Re: God, love and debate [Re: Icelander]
    #4429672 - 07/20/05 06:04 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

Baiting is a circumstance characterized by one individual attempting to lure others into an argument with subtly incendiary remarks. Baiting differs from flaming in that the intent is to provoke rather than to hurt.




Why else would it be a self-locking thread??


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Re: God, love and debate [Re: Veritas]
    #4429744 - 07/20/05 06:19 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Why else would it be a self-locking thread??

It is a mechanical term. Here are the details:

Oshkosh Truck Corporation and Pierce Manufacturing Improve Safety, Simplify Assembly, and Cut Service Costs with
Spiralock Thread Form Innovation

Oshkosh Truck Corporation, a top US manufacturer of heavy-duty military and commercial trucks, prides itself in manufacturing a top quality product that can perform under the most extreme weather and terrain conditions. The constant shock and vibration that the vehicles are subjected to requires reliable locking in the threaded joints. It is critical that axles, frames, and chassis are securely fastened because failure in the field creates serious issues for military personnel due to difficulties with getting and replacing parts. Furthermore, a lack of reliable fastening systems may lead to injury or loss of human life.

On chassis and non-permanent fixtures, Oshkosh engineers were using prevailing torque locknuts and anaerobic compounds (adhesives), which were not very effective in preventing vibration loosening. Additionally, warranty and service costs on the heavy-duty vehicles were rising. These concerns prompted Oshkosh to find a more reliable, cost-effective fastening method.

Oshkosh turned to Madison Heights, Mich.-based Spiralock Corp., designer and manufacturer of an innovative self-locking thread form technology. The secret to Spiralock?s thread form is a 30? wedge ramp cut at the root of the female thread. Under clamp load, the crests of the threads on any standard bolt are drawn tightly against the wedge ramp. This causes thread contact forces to be applied at approximately 60? from the bolt axis, rather than 30? away as in a standard thread form. The mechanical advantage ? the angular relationship between the unique wedge ramp and the male thread ? restricts bolt or screw movement.

A key Spiralock benefit over conventional locking methods is that the male fastener can be loosened and retightened as many times as necessary without any loss in locking force, thus reducing maintenance costs. The thread form works with standard male fasteners and eliminates the need for add-on locking components such as lock washers, thread adhesives, crimping or inserts, to name a few.


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Re: God, love and debate [Re: Swami]
    #4429778 - 07/20/05 06:25 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

In that case:

Quote:

A troll is a member of a fearsome humanoid race from Scandinavian folklore, and its predecessor Norse mythology, as in "The Three Billy Goats Gruff [1]," the well-known Scandinavian folk tale in which a troll living under a bridge torments some billy goats that want to cross. Grendel in the poem Beowulf is a closely similar creature. The word "Troll" is possibly derived from an old norse word meaning magic, cf. Swedish trolla Danish and Norwegian trylle ("perform magic tricks").

What are refered to as giants (jotnar) in Norse mythology, who were sometimes called trolls as well, have their closest mythological descendant in the trolls of Scandinavian folklore, where "troll" and "giant" are many times used synonymously.




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Re: God, love and debate [Re: Veritas]
    #4429831 - 07/20/05 06:35 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

After reading that story, I could not cross bridges by myself until I was 8 years old. Don't even get me started on the psychological damage from "Hansel and Gretel"...  :blush:


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Re: God, love and debate [Re: OldWoodSpecter]
    #4429958 - 07/20/05 07:00 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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You know very well that some people are emotionally immature and can not control their emotions.




what's so great about controlling your emotions?


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Re: God, love and debate [Re: crunchytoast]
    #4430331 - 07/20/05 08:27 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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crunchytoast said:
Quote:

You know very well that some people are emotionally immature and can not control their emotions.




what's so great about controlling your emotions?




if you don't control them, they will control you


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Re: God, love and debate [Re: OldWoodSpecter]
    #4430415 - 07/20/05 08:48 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

i would have thought by controlling your feelings, they control you.

my feelings are hurt but i say to myself 'my feelings aren't hurt, my feelings shouldn't be hurt, i'm strong' i've been there. honestly i just keep with the thought-loops and the anger doesn't go away for i dunno how long. i would say that's my emotion controlling me when i try to control my emotion.

i would think it's strength when you just let yourself be hurt when you're hurt.

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Re: God, love and debate [Re: Swami]
    #4431229 - 07/20/05 11:55 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Swami, bare in mind that most God preachers also beleive in a judgmental, jealous, angry God. They can honestly say they are walking the talk about their God when they get angrily judgmental.

I say they should just walk the yellow brick road to get to the wizard.


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Re: God, love and debate [Re: Fucknuckle]
    #4431414 - 07/21/05 12:24 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

"Hum explain........ Give an example in the past week where you have seen this ? Because I sure would like to be aware when this is happening. Sounds like something to avoid"

This is observation on my part not insult. Read your own posts and you will see this crop up frequently.


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Re: God, love and debate [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
    #4431423 - 07/21/05 12:26 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

"I say they should just walk the yellow brick road to get to the wizard"

Awesome


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Re: God, love and debate [Re: Fucknuckle]
    #4432085 - 07/21/05 03:45 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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No it's not, that is what he is counting on. So he can get away with what ever he feels is neccesary to shadow a insult or his complete disapproval at how S and P has been going on any givin day. Open your eyes :thumbup:




This is the turning point that officially makes a Swami thread lockable. It isn't his initial topic (most of the time :lol:), it is people who have no interest in the original topic and instead direct their attention at Swami himself, questioning his motivations, analyzing him, etc. etc. etc. They then witness the closing of all of his threads and use it as further evidence for their cause, despite the fact that they were the ones who went off-topic and they were the ones that caused the turning point which inevitably resulted in the thread being locked.

I think this is bullshit (and not to mention tiring, because it is happening almost every fucking day again :mad:) because it interferes with the normal, productive flow of debate and of the thread, regardless of who made the thread, how they presented the idea, or their own, personal motivations for doing so. In fact, if it were up to me personally, I'd delete your post from this thread and let the normal flow of discussion continue, but, fortunately for you, it is not my role. :grin:

In fact, I think it is reasonable to consider that you are trolling, as you have been doing this in every Swami thread that arises. Regardless of whether or not you feel it is justified for you to do so, the thread itself is not the place for it, perhaps it is something that you should take up with Swami himself or the moderators. I do not see you doing this with any other person's threads. I'm going to respectfully ask you to stop this kind of behavior, or I will specifically address this to moderators. :wink:

I will admit that some of Swami's threads might arise with no real discussion arising that fits the requirements of this forum, but this specifically is not one of them. I wouldn't define it as too heavy of a discussion or too serious of one, but comments like "his point is that some people who believe all is one are still trapped in a dualistic state of conciousness which he finds ironic. ", and trendal's post about the Big Bang provide plenty of content ripe for discussion. Swami presents his ideas in a different manner than others do, but that is a uniqueness that needs to be respected. Some interesting ideas and insight usually develop if others wouldn't be so quick to bring forth judgement and personal attacks.

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Re: God, love and debate [Re: fireworks_god]
    #4432241 - 07/21/05 06:58 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I heard you're on his payrole. Do you have any studies to disprove this? :grin: :heart:


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Re: God, love and debate [Re: Icelander]
    #4432290 - 07/21/05 07:23 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Only the 98 page essay that was published by the American Heart Association sometime last year. It did an adequate job of disproving this; however, it did offer proof that I am one of the causes of heart cancer, although I personally feel that more studies with more controls need to be done on this. :wink:

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Re: God, love and debate [Re: Icelander]
    #4432295 - 07/21/05 07:24 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I heard you're on his payrole.

Swami deputized FG last year.  Where were you?  :grin:


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Re: God, love and debate [Re: fireworks_god]
    #4432302 - 07/21/05 07:28 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

If adequate funding is provided, :wink: I am willing to do the study, we can get together in PM and talk about the results we wish to find. :thumbup:


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Re: God, love and debate [Re: LunarEclipse]
    #4432305 - 07/21/05 07:29 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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I heard you're on his payrole.

Swami deputized FG last year.  Where were you?  :grin:




I was out taking a shit. But HA! I knew it. :syringe:


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Re: God, love and debate [Re: Icelander]
    #4432323 - 07/21/05 07:40 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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Icelander said:
I was out taking a shit.



It was mine, put it back!


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Re: God, love and debate [Re: Prosgeopax]
    #4432331 - 07/21/05 07:43 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Bend over and I'll do my best. :poop: :ass: :whoa:


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Re: God, love and debate [Re: Icelander]
    #4432344 - 07/21/05 07:51 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

:foreheadslap: Doh!  Never mind.


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Re: God, love and debate [Re: Prosgeopax]
    #4432352 - 07/21/05 07:54 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Sorry. :grin: :heart:


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Re: God, love and debate [Re: fireworks_god]
    #4432603 - 07/21/05 09:31 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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In fact, I think it is reasonable to consider that you are trolling, as you have been doing this in every Swami thread that arises. Regardless of whether or not you feel it is justified for you to do so, the thread itself is not the place for it, perhaps it is something that you should take up with Swami himself or the moderators. I do not see you doing this with any other person's threads. I'm going to respectfully ask you to stop this kind of behavior, or I will specifically address this to moderators.




funny, i thought trolls were the ones who do the provoking, not the ones who get provoked.


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Re: God, love and debate [Re: crunchytoast]
    #4432800 - 07/21/05 10:15 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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i would have thought by controlling your feelings, they control you.

my feelings are hurt but i say to myself 'my feelings aren't hurt, my feelings shouldn't be hurt, i'm strong'  i've been there.  honestly i just keep with the thought-loops and the anger doesn't go away for i dunno how long.  i would say that's my emotion controlling me when i try to control my emotion.

i would think it's strength when you just let yourself be hurt when you're hurt.

?




Good point. To accept yourself enough to feel what you really feel without judgement, this is strength. To try and "control" your feelings you would have to lie to yourself.  :mushroom2:


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Re: God, love and debate [Re: Icelander]
    #4434960 - 07/21/05 06:26 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

yeah icelander, exactly
and i gotta admit i'm not very good at this
i dunno, it's scary, just giving into a feeling
it's like jumping off a diving board or something
like, i'm scared shitless that once i'm there i can't end the experience or something, you know?


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Re: God, love and debate [Re: crunchytoast]
    #4435005 - 07/21/05 06:36 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Yes I do know. That's why many people try to "control" their emotions.

I think all spiritual growth is scary at some point, and challenging. You are stepping outside of the box of "normal" cultural living . From this point you need to go it alone, without the support of the rest to reasure you.

If your commitment is to growth, you will find a way or should I say a way will find you. I find committed dosing is a way to tackle this problem. But to each his own. :thumbup: :heart:


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Re: God, love and debate [Re: crunchytoast]
    #4438664 - 07/22/05 03:06 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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funny, i thought trolls were the ones who do the provoking, not the ones who get provoked.




Indeed, exactly my point, so we are in agreement then. :wink:

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Re: God, love and debate [Re: fireworks_god]
    #4440679 - 07/22/05 11:15 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

:lol:
well, maybe not 100% on this point-
but because you and i agree so rarely
i'll cherish it for what it is


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Re: God, love and debate [Re: crunchytoast]
    #4440699 - 07/22/05 11:21 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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:lol:
well, maybe not 100% on this point-
but because you and i agree so rarely
i'll cherish it for what it is




:lol: :wink:

Stop provoking me, troll! :grin:

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