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Swami said:
Point? 

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Swami noticed some inconsistancies in others and was pointing them out. Just this once.

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Swami said:
Note to mods: this is a self-locking thread. Go about your other duties.

My all time favorite and it is being replayed here today in several threads is:

"God is love, you fuckwit! Can't you see that we are all one, you blind asshole."

The irony is just too much.

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Deviate said:
his point is that some people who believe all is one are still trapped in a dualistic state of conciousness which he finds ironic.

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No it's not, that is what he is counting on. So he can get away with what ever he feels is neccesary to shadow a insult or his complete disapproval at how S and P has been going on any givin day. Open your eyes

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psyka said:
Swami, if objects at rest stay at rest, what initiated the big bang and thus all other movement? Try not to be overly sarcastic (I do appreciate your cynicism though )

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Well I may not be swami, but I'll give my answer to the question

The physical laws which govern this Universe probably did not even exist "before" this Universe came into being with the Big Bang.

Thus attempting to apply these laws, such as the Law of Inertia, to whatever existed "before" the Big Bang probably doesn't work at all. In fact even the phrase "before the Big Bang" doesn't make much sense because Time itself did not exist until the Big Bang.


In essence, any talk of what existed "before" the Big Bang occured cannot have much of a ground in science...because our science is a science of this Universe. Not what came before it.

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Huehuecoyotl said:
I agree with Swami that this is an overriding pattern: talk about God, brotherhood, and love and then spew venom. This is vintage intolerance at it's best.

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Swami said:
The solution for you is simple. Use the ignore function and you will never have to read my posts again. Or perhaps you enjoy riling yourself up over my words...

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Swami said:
you are just expecting too much from us all

One point I hammer on repeatedly is to actually believe in what you believe in. If one cannot, then one should not espouse it publicly as the desirable way to be or think or act.

This is fairly simple and straight-forward.

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Icelander said:
Fucknuckle, don't overstate your case. Swami does not have treads locked down almost every day. Hehe, he will focus on this so he can distract you from your point. Hehe.

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Well I have not been in here for months and I can only reflect on the past week...... Which he has more than one thread locked. So maybe it only will happen when I am around.... There goes fucknuckle with his paranoid thoughts again.


I have to go out of town until friday time to catch a plane


Until then 

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Baiting is a circumstance characterized by one individual attempting to lure others into an argument with subtly incendiary remarks. Baiting differs from flaming in that the intent is to provoke rather than to hurt.

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A troll is a member of a fearsome humanoid race from Scandinavian folklore, and its predecessor Norse mythology, as in "The Three Billy Goats Gruff [1]," the well-known Scandinavian folk tale in which a troll living under a bridge torments some billy goats that want to cross. Grendel in the poem Beowulf is a closely similar creature. The word "Troll" is possibly derived from an old norse word meaning magic, cf. Swedish trolla Danish and Norwegian trylle ("perform magic tricks").

What are refered to as giants (jotnar) in Norse mythology, who were sometimes called trolls as well, have their closest mythological descendant in the trolls of Scandinavian folklore, where "troll" and "giant" are many times used synonymously.

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You know very well that some people are emotionally immature and can not control their emotions.

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You know very well that some people are emotionally immature and can not control their emotions.

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what's so great about controlling your emotions?

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Fucknuckle said:
No it's not, that is what he is counting on. So he can get away with what ever he feels is neccesary to shadow a insult or his complete disapproval at how S and P has been going on any givin day. Open your eyes

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This is the turning point that officially makes a Swami thread lockable. It isn't his initial topic (most of the time ), it is people who have no interest in the original topic and instead direct their attention at Swami himself, questioning his motivations, analyzing him, etc. etc. etc. They then witness the closing of all of his threads and use it as further evidence for their cause, despite the fact that they were the ones who went off-topic and they were the ones that caused the turning point which inevitably resulted in the thread being locked.

I think this is bullshit (and not to mention tiring, because it is happening almost every fucking day again ) because it interferes with the normal, productive flow of debate and of the thread, regardless of who made the thread, how they presented the idea, or their own, personal motivations for doing so. In fact, if it were up to me personally, I'd delete your post from this thread and let the normal flow of discussion continue, but, fortunately for you, it is not my role.

In fact, I think it is reasonable to consider that you are trolling, as you have been doing this in every Swami thread that arises. Regardless of whether or not you feel it is justified for you to do so, the thread itself is not the place for it, perhaps it is something that you should take up with Swami himself or the moderators. I do not see you doing this with any other person's threads. I'm going to respectfully ask you to stop this kind of behavior, or I will specifically address this to moderators.

I will admit that some of Swami's threads might arise with no real discussion arising that fits the requirements of this forum, but this specifically is not one of them. I wouldn't define it as too heavy of a discussion or too serious of one, but comments like "his point is that some people who believe all is one are still trapped in a dualistic state of conciousness which he finds ironic. ", and trendal's post about the Big Bang provide plenty of content ripe for discussion. Swami presents his ideas in a different manner than others do, but that is a uniqueness that needs to be respected. Some interesting ideas and insight usually develop if others wouldn't be so quick to bring forth judgement and personal attacks.


Peace.

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LunarEclipse said:
I heard you're on his payrole.

Swami deputized FG last year.  Where were you? 

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I was out taking a shit. But HA! I knew it.

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Icelander said:
I was out taking a shit.

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In fact, I think it is reasonable to consider that you are trolling, as you have been doing this in every Swami thread that arises. Regardless of whether or not you feel it is justified for you to do so, the thread itself is not the place for it, perhaps it is something that you should take up with Swami himself or the moderators. I do not see you doing this with any other person's threads. I'm going to respectfully ask you to stop this kind of behavior, or I will specifically address this to moderators.

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crunchytoast said:
i would have thought by controlling your feelings, they control you.

my feelings are hurt but i say to myself 'my feelings aren't hurt, my feelings shouldn't be hurt, i'm strong'  i've been there.  honestly i just keep with the thought-loops and the anger doesn't go away for i dunno how long.  i would say that's my emotion controlling me when i try to control my emotion.

i would think it's strength when you just let yourself be hurt when you're hurt.

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Good point. To accept yourself enough to feel what you really feel without judgement, this is strength. To try and "control" your feelings you would have to lie to yourself. 

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crunchytoast said:
funny, i thought trolls were the ones who do the provoking, not the ones who get provoked.

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Indeed, exactly my point, so we are in agreement then.


Peace.

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crunchytoast said:

well, maybe not 100% on this point-
but because you and i agree so rarely
i'll cherish it for what it is

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Stop provoking me, troll!


Peace.