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Offlinewillmafingerdo
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if you clone a big mushroom will it make big mushrooms??
    #4427886 - 07/20/05 01:11 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

if you get a realy nice big mushroom and you clone it, will all the mushrooms grow just like the one you took the tissue off of.. or is it still random..

and a question about cloneing.. if i understand it right all you need to do is take some inner tissue from the mushroom and place it in agur and it will grow out mycilia then you just cut out peices of the agur and put it in your grain or what not.. is that correct..?? could you put some tissue into like a honeywater jar.. or just agur??

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Re: if you clone a big mushroom will it make big mushrooms?? [Re: willmafingerdo]
    #4427934 - 07/20/05 01:20 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

It is less random, and you can clone to an LC.. Agar is basically a thick LC that you can cut rhizo myc growth out of, and isolate a large fruiting rhizomatic mycelium..


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Re: if you clone a big mushroom will it make big mushrooms?? [Re: Kalix]
    #4428108 - 07/20/05 01:57 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

You dont want to pick your biggest mushroom. You will basically be cloning the flush, not the mushroom. Pick a mushroom from a nice even pinset, even flush, good yeild, where the whole tray was quick and turned out well. You'll be better off then cloning a bigger mushroom, because you could still end up with a strain that may yes produce some big mushrooms, but it wont produce many if the tray you cloned it from didnt flush. So one lone shroom on a big casing that gets huge, or a smaller shroom from a nice even casing covered in shrooms..you should take from the second.


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Re: if you clone a big mushroom will it make big mushrooms?? [Re: scatmanrav]
    #4428339 - 07/20/05 02:44 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: if you clone a big mushroom will it make big mushrooms?? [Re: scatmanrav]
    #4428432 - 07/20/05 03:06 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

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You dont want to pick your biggest mushroom. You will basically be cloning the flush, not the mushroom. Pick a mushroom from a nice even pinset, even flush, good yeild, where the whole tray was quick and turned out well. You'll be better off then cloning a bigger mushroom, because you could still end up with a strain that may yes produce some big mushrooms, but it wont produce many if the tray you cloned it from didnt flush. So one lone shroom on a big casing that gets huge, or a smaller shroom from a nice even casing covered in shrooms..you should take from the second.




True! Remember, you are cloning the whole mycelium, not just one mushroom.. Mushrooms are made of tightly knit mycelial growth..


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Re: if you clone a big mushroom will it make big mushrooms?? [Re: scatmanrav]
    #4429539 - 07/20/05 07:28 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

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You dont want to pick your biggest mushroom. You will basically be cloning the flush, not the mushroom. Pick a mushroom from a nice even pinset, even flush, good yeild, where the whole tray was quick and turned out well. You'll be better off then cloning a bigger mushroom, because you could still end up with a strain that may yes produce some big mushrooms, but it wont produce many if the tray you cloned it from didnt flush. So one lone shroom on a big casing that gets huge, or a smaller shroom from a nice even casing covered in shrooms..you should take from the second.



Rule of thumb clone the largest specimen from a cluster. Cloning is really isolating and is usually done from multispore grows IME. Sure peeps isolate rhizo growth from plates but this tells you absolutely nothing about the strains fruiting ability. GL


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Re: if you clone a big mushroom will it make big mushrooms?? [Re: hyphae]
    #4430891 - 07/21/05 12:49 AM (11 years, 4 months ago)

kewl ty all:) im gonna read up more on it..


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Re: if you clone a big mushroom will it make big mushrooms?? [Re: willmafingerdo]
    #4430963 - 07/21/05 01:03 AM (11 years, 4 months ago)

yeah I would really want to know more on this subject, From the ones with experience


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Re: if you clone a big mushroom will it make big mushrooms?? [Re: Kalix]
    #4436034 - 07/22/05 12:53 AM (11 years, 4 months ago)

so i can cut a piece of tissue out and put it in say honey water?? is a big piece better.. or small strand??

im with unknown22 the whole agar thing seems to be the best bet.. and i would like to hear from some ppl that use it. seems augar would be easier to store than LC..or is it.. from what ive gathered from reading augar is a more controlled form of LC and would seem to be able to produce better fruits, just gotta find/get some damn petri dishes.. i hate living in a B.F.E town :frown: any sugestions on what kind of stores would carry the dishes, like what to look under in the phone book.. hoby shops, science, ect.. ect.. i called a couple places today.. but with no luck:(


once agin.. ty all for the info!! :smile: :scaryshroom:


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"The way to stop violence is not to go out and let your head be beaten in but to say, you want to take my life risk yours!"

"are you sure u want to eat all them shrooms??"  "yes i want to hear what my mind has to say..."

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