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Does size matter?
    #4416578 - 07/17/05 08:54 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

I just tried my first 1/8 yesterday and had an absolute ball. A few friends and I went to the local park and couldn't believe our eyes. But my question to you guys is I'm 6'2, 285 pounds and I experianced what I would call a 3- trip while my buddies who are more than 100 pounds lighter probably had 3+ or 4- trips. Does the fact that i'm bigger than them have somthing to do with this? If so, should somthing like 4.5gs get me to where I want to be? Thanks in advance for your help.


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Re: Does size matter? [Re: dupresblues]
    #4416587 - 07/17/05 08:56 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

they say it doesnt.. but i think it does.

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Re: Does size matter? [Re: dupresblues]
    #4416590 - 07/17/05 08:57 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

Welcome to the shroomery! Size shouldn't effect you too much IME.

PS...  nice nick :cool:.


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Re: Does size matter? [Re: dupresblues]
    #4416591 - 07/17/05 08:57 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

i believe it does because im 180 and my friend is 130, we both split an eigth, i barely tripped at all and he was full out blown. if you want to get were you want to be off an eigth then you should take an MAOI before hand along with vitamin c. youll have a blast and get double the experience for the same price.


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Re: Does size matter? [Re: dupresblues]
    #4416596 - 07/17/05 09:00 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

no, size doesnt matter. they probably had emptier stomaches than you did. Or, likely they just described their trip differently than you did yours and it makes you think you didnt have as insane of a time, but im sure they were roughly the same on the same dose. i suggest you stick it to eighths for more experiences to come before you up the dose by a gram(it makes a big difference) up it to 4 first, then 4.5, if you do anything. but i still think you should experience an 1/8 dose a few more times before you up the dose. every trip is different depending on set and setting. stay safe.


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Re: Does size matter? [Re: TheHook]
    #4416663 - 07/17/05 09:18 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

Whoa, wait up a mintue, do not go and use an MAOI. You just ate an eighth for your first, try eating a few more of those same doses first. And MAOI is a massively powerful experience combined with almost any amount of mushrooms. Do not so easily give out that advice, you may lead naieve people down a road they do not need to tread. MAOIs and mushrooms are only for people who like very long trips. It is not just a simple enhancer to get the most bang for your buck out of your shrooms. It is a very powerful entheogenic combination that is not for all.

A good eighth will get you where you want to go, that is if they are good shrooms.


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Re: Does size matter? [Re: mecreateme]
    #4416706 - 07/17/05 09:30 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

Wow you guys are fast, thanks so much for your replys. I'm suprised about the size thing I thought for sure that was it, I guese it must have been the taco bell haha... For my next trip I supose ill do some fasting and another 1/8th.

edit: Whoops I forgot to ask whats an MAOI, I've never heard of that before


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Re: Does size matter? [Re: dupresblues]
    #4416751 - 07/17/05 09:41 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

I have also heard that "size doesn't matter" in regards to various psychedelics. I'm not sure what the reasoning behind this is. Perhaps the relative brain mass or number of receptors to whatever substance has little variance based on physical stature.

The main thing that I wonder about is total blood volume. Even if brain mass/receptor density was the same from one individual to another, the blood concentration of whatever substance is going to vary based on blood volume. The amount of whatever present will be the same, but more dilute by unit of volume as compared with a smaller individual.

I would think this would make for an overall milder (if, perhaps longer?) trip, due to the fact that it would take longer for an equivalent amount of substance to reach the active sites in the brain.

My 2 cents.


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Re: Does size matter? [Re: dupresblues]
    #4416755 - 07/17/05 09:43 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

Definitely fast before the trip (not necessarily all day, but certainly have an empty stomach. Don't worry about MAO-is.


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Re: Does size matter? [Re: gdman]
    #4416771 - 07/17/05 09:49 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

yea, whats the reasoning for saying size doesnt matter?

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Re: Does size matter? [Re: hempknight]
    #4416809 - 07/17/05 09:57 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

I've been around enough, with all different kinds of people, dosing mushrooms, etc. I've observed that size is not a big factor in dosing. Other factors play a bigger role. I've seen smaller people have to take 4+ grams to get going, I've seen rather large people tripping extraordinarily hard off of much lower doses.


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Re: Does size matter? [Re: gdman]
    #4416845 - 07/17/05 10:08 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

Something else to consider is individual susceptibility to whatever chemical. Some people might simply be more sensitive to a given substance than others.

I'm somewhat of a hardhead when it comes to opiates, taking as much or more than friends with 40% more body weight than I have (I'm well below average.) When it comes to cannabis though, I'm between average and lightweight, taking less than my friends to achieve a similar level of intoxication.

I guess given the number of factors involved, things probably just average out: Blood volume (peak serum concentration,) sensitivity, expectation, amount of food in the digestive tract, prior experience with a given substance, etc... the list goes on.


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Re: Does size matter? [Re: PsychoChipmunk]
    #4417001 - 07/17/05 10:51 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

I appreciate everybodys input, I'm glad I asked knowledgeable people before I went and got myself into trouble with too high of a dose. By the way GDman I'm digging your Jerry picture :thumbup:


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Re: Does size matter? [Re: dupresblues]
    #4417296 - 07/17/05 11:44 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

I think size is a factor, but its equal to a dozen other factors, and below a dozen others. Biggest one, is mind.


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Re: Does size matter? [Re: scatmanrav]
    #4418039 - 07/18/05 05:14 AM (18 years, 8 months ago)

Ecperience is important as a factor for first timers. Your first trip is likely be weak in comparison to following trips becase you dont know what to expect (and neither does your body). Now that you know what the experience is like, and exactly how it affects you, you should try another 1/8 (dont rush it though).
Size can be a factor, but more so in hight than wieght. overall body mass is unimportant but the length of certain affected body systems can give slight differences in dose. I think the digestive sytstem is a key factor here. Peoples stomachs work at different rates and not everyone's stomach is the same size. Also, people matabolize shrooms at different rates.

DISCLAIMER: Im making all these speculations based on common sense and a brief background in biology, so no real supported facts here.

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Re: Does size matter? [Re: dupresblues]
    #4418131 - 07/18/05 06:39 AM (18 years, 8 months ago)

MAOI(monoamine oxidase inhibitors)Mood stabilizers, Prozac,Zoloft...etc.
I wouldn't recommend taking these either. Have fun and be safe!


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Re: Does size matter? [Re: Aiko Aiko]
    #4418319 - 07/18/05 08:56 AM (18 years, 8 months ago)

Not to be nit picky, but Prozac and Zoloft are SSRis, which actually decrease the effect of psychedelics.


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Re: Does size matter? [Re: gdman]
    #4419994 - 07/18/05 05:07 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

Thanx for the clarification gdman. :biggrin: Btw, did you ever get my pm?


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