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InvisibleSwami
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Knowing the mind of God
    #4415808 - 07/17/05 06:56 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

What could be more egotistical than the uber-arrogance of those claiming to know the mind of God, who if he/she exists, would be trillions upon trillions upon trillions of magnitudes greater than our own puny minds?

"Hey, I read an ancient text put out by other puny minds, that is how I know - and oh, yeah, I ate 5 grams of shrooms..."

Um, OK, I guess you are now the official spokesperson. (Hey! A great idea for a new TV show.)


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Re: Knowing the mind of God [Re: Swami]
    #4415821 - 07/17/05 07:00 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

you might be right about some things some of the time.
but a rant is a rant
and this time you kant


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Re: Knowing the mind of God [Re: Swami]
    #4415850 - 07/17/05 07:11 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

I thought that was the object of gnosis. To strive to understand oneself, and god, and thereby increasing ones knowledge, and making ones self closer to god?


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Re: Knowing the mind of God [Re: Swami]
    #4415856 - 07/17/05 07:12 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

What could be more egotistical than the uber-arrogance

Uber-arrogance?  First, you need to define that and then I can decide what is more egotistical.  Bear in mind I am a German American.  :evil:


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Re: Knowing the mind of God [Re: Swami]
    #4415901 - 07/17/05 07:23 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

lol


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Re: Knowing the mind of God [Re: Swami]
    #4416003 - 07/17/05 07:47 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Is it more egotistical to say you know God or is it more egotistical to say you are so smart as to be able to prove God does not exist ?

Which is better to say I am friends with God or God is false and I am greater then he ?

To say you are friends with God has nothing to do with ego does it.

Saying you are absoulte that you are your own singular being is far more to do with ego.

To follow and live by example is humilty. To spew is ego.

To feel a constant need to justife one's self is ego

I think saying that your friends with God is nothing more then sharing good news. No more harmful then sharing a cupcake with a friend. :heart:


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Re: Knowing the mind of God [Re: Swami]
    #4416046 - 07/17/05 07:59 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

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Swami said:
What could be more egotistical than the uber-arrogance of those claiming to know the mind of God, who if he/she exists, would be trillions upon trillions upon trillions of magnitudes greater than our own puny minds?

"Hey, I read an ancient text put out by other puny minds, that is how I know - and oh, yeah, I ate 5 grams of shrooms..."

Um, OK, I guess you are now the official spokesperson. (Hey! A great idea for a new TV show.)




It is not arogant if the god does not exist.

I don't get your approach:
In trying to prove non-existence of god, you fight arguments for existence of god by saying you can not understand the mind of god.

If god does not exist, you can think of anything you want and attribute to him.

How can you be arrogant by saying you know an imaginary god?


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Re: Knowing the mind of God [Re: Swami]
    #4416049 - 07/17/05 08:01 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Listen, you know I know God, and she doesn't appreciate being called a he/she.


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Re: Knowing the mind of God [Re: RedNucleus]
    #4416070 - 07/17/05 08:09 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

I for starters do not believe in the concept of God. Some higher form out there that just suddenly did things with purpose. I don't believe there is a purpose for things, they were just created out of seperateness. There is no unity among things, the human mind can find unity but that is just what it is doing creating a false illusion.

God is like something that people can't make sense of so they go ahead and fill their minds with bullshit just so they can talk to people about it.

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Re: Knowing the mind of God [Re: Droz]
    #4416089 - 07/17/05 08:17 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Quote "God is like something that people can't make sense of so they go ahead and fill their minds with bullshit just so they can talk to people about it."




Please don't decide for some of us that we can't make sense of God. You can make that decision for yourself.


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Re: Knowing the mind of God [Re: Fucknuckle]
    #4416109 - 07/17/05 08:23 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

I'm sorry that knowing God and the idea of percieving gets to you. We all percieve therefore we all can hold visions of any god, gods, god-like creature.

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Re: Knowing the mind of God [Re: Droz]
    #4416114 - 07/17/05 08:24 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

and what are you really making sense of Fucknuckle? A thought?


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Re: Knowing the mind of God [Re: Droz]
    #4416130 - 07/17/05 08:30 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Quote "I'm sorry that knowing God and the idea of percieving gets to you"

Where did you get this idea?

I am somewhat confused on what your asking ?


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Re: Knowing the mind of God [Re: Droz]
    #4416142 - 07/17/05 08:37 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

Droz said:
and what are you really making sense of Fucknuckle? A thought?




Hum I think I see what your getting at. Am I finding the mind of god stemming from a first thought. Is teh God I know a result of a nutured set of ideas and pricipals. Was I brain washed with thick thought ?

You know I have been down that road and have seriuosly questioned myself a few times in the past. But the fact is thoughts can not bring forth some of the things I have experienced. I would share a few with you but there are many here who will bash me as a " Guy who claims shit "

In any case yes I can imagine anything but God as proven himself to me many many times. The evidence is far to great in my life.

God is as real as the nose on your face.


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Re: Knowing the mind of God [Re: Droz]
    #4416143 - 07/17/05 08:38 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

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I for starters do not believe in the concept of God. Some higher form out there that just suddenly did things with purpose. I don't believe there is a purpose for things, they were just created out of seperateness. There is no unity among things, the human mind can find unity but that is just what it is doing creating a false illusion.





or maybe god is the disunity


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Re: Knowing the mind of God [Re: crunchytoast]
    #4416190 - 07/17/05 08:54 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

That idea is beyond the definition of the word "god". I think calling a concept such as separateness "god" does not make sense, for a god must be an intelligent being.


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Re: Knowing the mind of God [Re: Swami]
    #4416203 - 07/17/05 08:59 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

"who if he/she exists, would be trillions upon trillions upon trillions of magnitudes greater than our own puny minds?"

who's claiming to know the mind of god now?


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Re: Knowing the mind of God [Re: moog]
    #4416224 - 07/17/05 09:09 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

What exists, as far as we can detect, which is probably not very far at all, is beyond our minds by unthinkable bounds. Therefore, the creator of everything would have to be unthinkably more intelligent than we are.


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Re: Knowing the mind of God [Re: Swami]
    #4416236 - 07/17/05 09:15 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

And what if God is All-That-Is?

What if we are all God.. What if all of nature is God?

What if God is the objective, and we the subjective.. molecules of a greater design, but still complete, as the acorn is to the oak tree.

What if we are just cells of God. Then WE ARE GOD. The collective. Yet each piece a potential of god in and of iself.


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Re: Knowing the mind of God [Re: RedNucleus]
    #4416237 - 07/17/05 09:15 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

"god must be an intelligent being"
what if the universe is a thinking creature?
whose thoughts are the thoughts of the thinking creatures who populate it?
and the universe is characterized by its disunity?
then i would say that god (an intelligent being) manifests itself in the disunity of the universe


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