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    #4411626 - 07/16/05 02:26 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

Hoping to promote this branch of the plant hobby i am going to
post a list here of relevant websites, book titles and pics of my plants and hope that others will do the same.

Links:

The Carnivorous Plant FAQ
The International Carnivorous Plant Society
Carnivorous Plants UK Forum
Sundew Matt's Homepage
Insectovorous Plants by Charles Darwin

Books i reccomend: (in that order)

-The Savage Garden by Peter D'Amato
-Carnivorous plants by Adrian Slack

some of my plants:

Dionaea muscipula

Sarracenia purpurea ssp. venosa

Sarracenia psittacina

Sarracenia X (oreophila X alata) X leucophylla

Drosera capensis 'alba'

Drosera capensis 'all red'

Drosera scorpioides

Pinguicula grandiflora

Nepenthes ventrata

Darlingtonia californica






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Re: Carnivorous plants [PICS] [Re: Vertigo6911]
    #4411715 - 07/16/05 03:03 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

Cool collection, get them all in full sun if you can. I've grown fly trap and capensis before and they both loved full sun. The venus has 2 types of leaves, the summer growth should be standing upright with a nice red shade to them. My capensis used to looked a lot 'fuller' also.

I don't grow these plants anymore, they can be quite demanding.


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Re: Carnivorous plants [PICS] [Re: Vertigo6911]
    #4411726 - 07/16/05 03:06 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

"My god...nature is alive. It's talking to us, it's alive. No, this is not a metaphor, I am not a romantic, this is not an artistic or aesthetic stance, nature is alive. Someone is on the line."


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Re: Carnivorous plants [PICS] [Re: SuperD]
    #4411733 - 07/16/05 03:08 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

Beautiful plants! +5 for you!


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    #4411745 - 07/16/05 03:12 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

thxz guys :smile:

yeah i built me a little greenhouse type deal on my balcony for them.
its got some florescant lights in there and they do indeed enjoy it :smile:


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Re: Carnivorous plants [PICS] [Re: Vertigo6911]
    #4412777 - 07/16/05 10:04 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

That's an amazing collection!
Where does one get plants like these???


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Re: Carnivorous plants [PICS] [Re: foo]
    #4412806 - 07/16/05 10:16 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

yea where did u get those plants. and do u just water them or do u have to feed them flies and stuff?


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    #4413854 - 07/17/05 03:17 AM (11 years, 4 months ago)

well the best thing to do is get them streight from a nursery,
some of mine came from garden centers but most were bought from this place: http://www.hungryplants.nl/ here in holland.

well these are swamp plants so they need different things from regular plants.
if u want to grow them u need toget a book, preferably "the savage garden" but these are the basics:

the soil needs to be low on or devoid of nutrients and neutral or acidic, usualy peat, sand and spagnum are used. the water needs to be superclean, either distilled, rev osmosis or rainwater (i use rainwater)
they need to stand in a trey with a half inch of water or so
and they like high humidity.
the plants have no trouble at all catching bugs so if i feed it is purely for my own pleasure.

here is a short list of nurseries:

http://www.borneoexotics.com/
http://californiacarnivores.com/
http://www.triffidnurseries.co.uk/
http://www.littleshopofhorrors.co.uk/
http://www.flytraps.com/
http://www.dangerousplants.com/
http://www.exoticaplants.com.au/welcome.asp
http://www.malesiana.tropicals.com.my/
http://www.silverhillseeds.co.za/
http://www.triffidpark.com.au/

u know what, lets make this a collection of carnivorous stuff!
ill post some links and book titles n pics n stuff above in the opening post.

any1 else have carnivore pics? lets add them here :smile:


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Re: Carnivorous plants [PICS] [Re: Vertigo6911]
    #4416184 - 07/17/05 08:52 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

I just ordered 20 seeds of venus fly traps and 30 seeds of another carnivorous plant from ebay a few days ago. This thread comes in quite handy.

I also ordered 100edelweiss seeds, 200 cacti seeds and 10 palm seds. I'll be willing to trade some after I get them.


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Re: Carnivorous plants [PICS] [Re: Phoenix99]
    #4417852 - 07/18/05 05:14 AM (11 years, 4 months ago)

Nice pics Vertigo!!

I have a venus fly trap myself under a florescent light, which  I purchased from a nursery.  It came with a plastic cup on top to keep in the humidity and began to grow really big.  I even started to develop a flower in the middle.  After it started getting too big, I decided to remove the cup, which would also allow it to feast on the tiny fruit flies that sometimes come out of the soil from some of my other plants.  From what I  have read, the flies provide the equivalent to fertilization of normal plants.  Anyway, the trap has adjusted to the lower humidity and it enjoys the flourescent light and fruit flies.  However, now the leaves never seem to get too big before they die off. The flower also died before it fully got to bloom :frown:  Do you think this has to do with the lower humidity.  I was worried about the leaves rotting against the cup before because they were pressed against the sides... Also once I took the top off, I couldn't put it on without some of the leaves being messed up.  No new leaves are always coming up...they just don't get as big as they did.  Also, I have thought of repotting , but the plant is grown in moss.  Does anyone have suggestions on how to repot?  The moss seems to grow even in the Chinese food container I have underneath to hold the water. I imagine it might spread around if I just repot in soil...but now that I saw this post I have someone to ask.  What's up with the leaves not getting big?  How do I repot? What kind of soil would be ideal?  Thanks  a bunch!


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Re: Carnivorous plants [PICS] [Re: blazed123]
    #4417943 - 07/18/05 06:15 AM (11 years, 4 months ago)

well first off there ar 2types of leafs.
in spring/summer it makes long slender leafs that stand upright if u have sufficient light, if not they will droop over the side of the pot.
in fall/winter it will create short wide leafs that ly on the ground.

flytraps grow very slowly and the root system is basicly a bulb, and sice it doesent take in nutrients trough there the system is very small.
normaly a single plant in a 10cm pot should not ever have to be repotted.
if u do need to repot or something, usualy a mix of 3:1 peat:silica sand is used.

they do need high humidity, but not extreme like shrooms.
if u have ure plant on a big trey with water u should have enuff humidity, unless u live in the desert.

producing a flower take a great deal of energy for the plant and it is usualy advised to cut the stalk as it come out.
a plant can survive flowering but as the flowers are not very impressive u should only let it flower if u really want the seeds.

the biggest deal for a flytrap, and prettymuch all arnivores is light.
they need lots and lots of light.
if u have the slender long leafs that wont stand upright or turn red
u need more light.
if they are turning red at any time u should have plenty of light.

flytraps go trough a winter dormancy.
when that happens the leafs will die off, sometimes all of them
but the root system is still alive.
when it does it will need to be kept cool, idealy around 12C/50F
and instead of keeping it wet with the tray it needs to be only moist
or the root system will rot.
its not ideal but alot of people dig out the root system and keep it in the fridge (not freezer) in a plastic bag.

flytraps are most at home at around 25C/77F but generaly should be able to handle temps up to 40C/100F without problems.

many people in the UK grow these things in their gardens with good results.


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Re: Carnivorous plants [PICS] [Re: Vertigo6911]
    #4418171 - 07/18/05 09:34 AM (11 years, 4 months ago)

Quite the impressive garden you got there, excellent pics too.  I've found they are handy in greenhouses, i keep a sundew in mine catch the flying nasties.

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Re: Carnivorous plants [PICS] [Re: Mycomancer]
    #4418385 - 07/18/05 11:27 AM (11 years, 4 months ago)

Those venus fly traps are pretty cool looking, did you buy them or start from seed?


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    #4418569 - 07/18/05 12:41 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

i bought them.
it takes several years for a VFT to grow to full sise.
i did sow some seed but nothing has sprouted yet.
i also let 2 of mine flower and pollinated them, hopefully ill have some fresh seeds for trade soon...

thxz myco, id love to see a pic of your drosera :smile:
drosera are very beutifull plants, did u notice the scorpioides's sise?
thats an adult plant at about 60% of its maximim sise.


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Re: Carnivorous plants [PICS] [Re: Vertigo6911]
    #4423224 - 07/19/05 01:20 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

So awesome to see a carnivorous plant thread!!!
Make sure to add Peter D'Amato's nursery to the list
http://www.californiacarnivores.com I've got amazing plants from him.
I'll try to get some more pictures to add but until then heres a picture of my Sarracennia Purpurea flowering earlier this summer.


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    #4423264 - 07/19/05 01:28 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

yeah ure right, i should have said spring and autumn leafs...
i havent been at it long enuff to have seen this but as i understand it the short wide leafs are made when it comes out of dormancy and in spring starts making the long upright ones.

D'Amato is da man :smile:
i actualy just recieved his book "the savage garden" today and its great :smile:


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    #4423292 - 07/19/05 01:35 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

oh yeah.... it is amazing.... I've read the book so many times haha
If you haven't yet check out the picture of the dewy pine he has in there... its amazing....
If you ever make it over to the U.S. you HAVE to check out his nursery... its SO amazing... and he is an awesome person that will sit there and talk to you as long as you want
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    #4426635 - 07/20/05 03:32 AM (11 years, 4 months ago)

Thanks for the info. I'm figuring I have the summer leaves because I leave the light on as long as i'm up...so more than 12 hours. They have always stood straight up, probably because of that. However, they never seem to really turn red. DO you think that this is due to insufficient light? As for humidity, I just have them in a small chinese soup container with water in the bottom. I also mist at least once a day.

I'm not worried about them dying....I mean this has been goin on for a while. So at least I know repotting isn't the prob.

I noticed the tap root because once I went to rip off a leaf and I lifted the entire root up..but I quickly buried it before it knew any better.

I had also wondered if the flowers produced seeds. Now I wish it had made it. I was pretty close...though I agree that they are not the greatest looking things. Do you know any methods for inducing flowering or cloning? Thanx again.


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    #4427149 - 07/20/05 07:04 AM (11 years, 4 months ago)

im not sure about stimulating floering, but u can otherwise propogate via leaf 'cuttings' (actualy more of a 'yanking'), division of the rihzome or tissue culture.
heres some quick info on propagation.
http://www.sarracenia.com/faq/faq2500.html

from the sound of it id say that what u have is an all green form of the plant.
although it has been suggested that the coloring might also be influenced by pther factors, so it might just be alittle confused but i think an all green form is more likely.
in any case, if the leafs are standing upright they must be getting plenty of light.

i dont think it will be healthy on the long temr to keep your plant under 12/12 light all the time.
flytraps need a winter dormancy to regain strenght, denying it that will weaken it...


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    #4542527 - 08/16/05 03:25 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

Some new mouthes to feed:

-Sarracenia flava var. flava:

-Sarracenia leucophylla x unknown:

Drosera madagascariensis:

Drosera binata var. binata X Drosera binata var. dichotoma:

Drosera pulchella:

Drosera nitidula ssp. nitidula X Drosera occidentalis:

Drosera x 'Lake Badgerup':


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