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Invisiblelooner2
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Will this end terrorism?
    #4409623 - 07/15/05 11:15 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

In the other thread a poster responded with this as a means to an end of terrorism, will it work? If you don't think it will, explain what we must say during negotations to appease them. Do not speak of military action here, lets have a brain storm on how to appease terrorism into obscurity!

What would I tell them? I'd tell them that America will start paying them a fair price for their oil, quit depleting their countries' natural resources and pissing it off driving SUV's while we pay them pennies and they ride camels, that America will be legalizing weed, and other harmless drugs tomorrow, and that all we want is peace.

I for one, feel this is an excellent plan and we should start with it right away, who is with me?


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Re: Will this end terrorism? [Re: looner2]
    #4409634 - 07/15/05 11:17 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

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Re: Will this end terrorism? [Re: looner2]
    #4409642 - 07/15/05 11:19 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Nothing will stop terrorism. If we grant the Muslims what they want, Zionist terrorism will increase. Grant the Zionists what they want and Muslim terrorism will increase.

No matter what is done, someone is going to be angry enough about something to kill civilians.


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Re: Will this end terrorism? [Re: Redstorm]
    #4409811 - 07/15/05 11:51 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

im sure it would help.
you are right, some people will never be happy, but im sure when we stop stealing resources from 3rd world countries so we can live comfortably, they might not be as mad.


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Re: Will this end terrorism? [Re: looner2]
    #4409823 - 07/15/05 11:53 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

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looner2 said:
In the other thread a poster responded with this as a means to an end of terrorism, will it work? If you don't think it will, explain what we must say during negotations to appease them. Do not speak of military action here, lets have a brain storm on how to appease terrorism into obscurity!

What would I tell them? I'd tell them that America will start paying them a fair price for their oil, quit depleting their countries' natural resources and pissing it off driving SUV's while we pay them pennies and they ride camels, that America will be legalizing weed, and other harmless drugs tomorrow, and that all we want is peace.

I for one, feel this is an excellent plan and we should start with it right away, who is with me?




hehe so you like my plan eh? :lol:


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Re: Will this end terrorism? [Re: Redstorm]
    #4409855 - 07/16/05 12:05 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

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Redstorm said:
Nothing will stop terrorism. If we grant the Muslims what they want, Zionist terrorism will increase. Grant the Zionists what they want and Muslim terrorism will increase.

No matter what is done, someone is going to be angry enough about something to kill civilians.




I've never been one for defeatist attitudes. So, you're telling me that there is no solution and that we may as well just go back to our barbeques then?


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Re: Will this end terrorism? [Re: Smallworlds]
    #4409863 - 07/16/05 12:07 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

No, no, no. We can try all we want (and we should). All we can hope to do is minimize or contain terrorism.

Terrorism is too easy of a game to play to stop it completely.


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Re: Will this end terrorism? [Re: Redstorm]
    #4409875 - 07/16/05 12:10 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

To stop or attempt to contain terrorism against us the government(s) must first stop committing acts of terrorism themselves.


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Re: Will this end terrorism? [Re: Redstorm]
    #4409889 - 07/16/05 12:13 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

I agree, it's the battle of evermore...

I roll with peace.


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Re: Will this end terrorism? [Re: bukkake]
    #4409901 - 07/16/05 12:15 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

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bukkake said:
To stop or attempt to contain terrorism against us the government(s) must first stop committing acts of terrorism themselves.




True that!

I say that the things that our governments do, and the terrorist acts, are one force...

...and peace is the other.


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Re: Will this end terrorism? [Re: Redstorm]
    #4410708 - 07/16/05 03:54 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

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Redstorm said:
No, no, no. We can try all we want (and we should). All we can hope to do is minimize or contain terrorism.

Terrorism is too easy of a game to play to stop it completely.



What we can do is minimize terrorism against us. Israel will still have its problems with terrorism, and that's for them to figure out.


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Re: Will this end terrorism? [Re: tak]
    #4411190 - 07/16/05 11:17 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

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root-ninja-tak said:
im sure it would help.
you are right, some people will never be happy, but im sure when we stop stealing resources from 3rd world countries so we can live comfortably, they might not be as mad.




well said! additionally i'd say when we stop shoving 'free trade' policies (hehe don't jump on me here Paradigm, i don't mean real 'free trade' i mean this bullshit economic imperialism a la NAFTA, FTAA, etc) down their throats, and instead try to focus on creating 'fair trade' policies (step one - get rid of 1st world subsidies that starve 3rd world farmers!), there will be a lot less poor people in the world. when people get less poor, they tend to get more educated. when people get more educated, they tend to not believe in crazy fundamentalism that says the only hope is in the next life. and when people stop believing in crazy fundamentalism, they tend to stop blowing themselves up.


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Re: Will this end terrorism? [Re: Krishna]
    #4411313 - 07/16/05 12:15 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

No one here is telling me what their conversation with Hamas and Al-Queda would be like. I'm saddened.


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Re: Will this end terrorism? [Re: Redstorm]
    #4411314 - 07/16/05 12:15 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

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Redstorm said:
Nothing will stop terrorism. If we grant the Muslims what they want, Zionist terrorism will increase. Grant the Zionists what they want and Muslim terrorism will increase.

No matter what is done, someone is going to be angry enough about something to kill civilians.




If we grant the Muslims what they want, which is world totalitarian domination, there will be at least one atheist terrorist.


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Re: Will this end terrorism? [Re: looner2]
    #4411344 - 07/16/05 12:25 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

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looner2 said:
No one here is telling me what their conversation with Hamas and Al-Queda would be like. I'm saddened.




well, you didn't ask. i've only had the opportunity to talk with one member of hamas (a good friend of mine, actually, who is from the west bank), although many middle-easterners i know support them to a greater or lesser extent. i don't think such groups can be 'conversed' with - in the same way that i don't think fundamentalist neo-cons can be conversed with. i think our only (sustainable) option in this situation is to work to create a greater degree of economic equity and sustainability throughout the 3rd world, and hope that with this greater degree of autonomy and hope, more radicalist groups will begin to lose support amongst the populations.


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Re: Will this end terrorism? [Re: Silversoul]
    #4411408 - 07/16/05 12:50 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

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Paradigm said:
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Redstorm said:
No, no, no. We can try all we want (and we should). All we can hope to do is minimize or contain terrorism.

Terrorism is too easy of a game to play to stop it completely.



What we can do is minimize terrorism against us.  Israel will still have its problems with terrorism, and that's for them to figure out.




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Re: Will this end terrorism? [Re: Redstorm]
    #4411509 - 07/16/05 01:34 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Move the Israelis to southern Utah and then fumigate the middle east..?

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Re: Will this end terrorism? [Re: Smallworlds]
    #4411608 - 07/16/05 02:18 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

That gives me an idea! It would probably cost us less money and headache to reconstruct Israel in Nevada, then drug all the Israelis and transplant them. We put a bunch of mock Palestinians on the western border (Mexican immigrants) so they won't venture out. They'll be none the wiser! I guess we'd have to figure out how to fake the Mediterranian Sea... Any suggestions?


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Re: Will this end terrorism? [Re: Gijith]
    #4411622 - 07/16/05 02:23 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

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That gives me an idea! It would probably cost us less money and headache to reconstruct Israel in Nevada, then drug all the Israelis and transplant them. We put a bunch of mock Palestinians on the western border (Mexican immigrants) so they won't venture out. They'll be none the wiser! I guess we'd have to figure out how to fake the Mediterranian Sea... Any suggestions?




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Re: Will this end terrorism? [Re: looner2]
    #4413481 - 07/17/05 01:43 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

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What would I tell them? I'd tell them that America will start paying them a fair price for their oil, quit depleting their countries' natural resources and pissing it off driving SUV's while we pay them pennies and they ride camels, that America will be legalizing weed, and other harmless drugs tomorrow, and that all we want is peace.



We already pay a fair price for oil. We pay them exactly the ammount that they are willing to sell it to us for. If they want more then thet have to simply raise the price and see if we are willing to pay it. That is how a free market works. And if you think that legalizing drugs or even harmless drugs will make us accept them more then I must say that you are out of your mind. They do not like the fact that we tolerate acts that they consider immoral.


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