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50/50 cased without lime, am I doomed?
    #4408301 - 07/15/05 05:23 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

As the title states, I did a 50/50 mix of peat and verm without any buffer. Can I still use oyster shells so my pH won't go totally out of wack after the first flush. Any advice?


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Re: 50/50 cased without lime, am I doomed? [Re: ChronicBarry]
    #4408491 - 07/15/05 06:04 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

I got some dolomitic ground limestone but the tek says not to use it. Now, i already cased so can i apply this to the top layer?


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Re: 50/50 cased without lime, am I doomed? [Re: ChronicBarry]
    #4408500 - 07/15/05 06:06 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

No I hardly ever use lime in my casings or any buffer in my casings just a lot of vermiculite so I get it as chunky as I can youll be fine


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Re: 50/50 cased without lime, am I doomed? [Re: djsage420]
    #4409083 - 07/15/05 08:46 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

How do you got about incubating your casing? By the looks of your picture I have about the same setup.


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Re: 50/50 cased without lime, am I doomed? [Re: ChronicBarry]
    #4410069 - 07/16/05 12:57 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Using no lime is much less a problem than using too much in my opinion, and most people use way too much since they use hydrated lime at the ridiculous recommendation in the formula of 1.2 cups. That's about 10 times as much as one should use. Actually, hydrated lime should never be used in the first place. Pulverized limestone that you can get just about at any hardware store should be used.


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Re: 50/50 cased without lime, am I doomed? [Re: Blue Helix]
    #4410133 - 07/16/05 01:08 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

yeah or just grind up some plain white chalk = calcium carbonate, which is what you want, same as hydrated lime, but won't burn mycelium


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Re: 50/50 cased without lime, am I doomed? [Re: ChronicBarry]
    #4410386 - 07/16/05 02:07 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Most chalk today is made of calium sulfate or gympsum. In the old, old days it was calcium carbonate, and chalk was really hard back then.


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Re: 50/50 cased without lime, am I doomed? [Re: Blue Helix]
    #4410913 - 07/16/05 07:52 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

You can buy calcium carbonate tablets thats in any vitamin section also.


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Re: 50/50 cased without lime, am I doomed? [Re: djsage420]
    #4411255 - 07/16/05 11:50 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

I baught dolomitic pulverized limestone froma garden store, will that work? Keep in mind I cased about 36 hours ago. Should i just say fuck it and go without lime? I don't want to open my casing's tin foil cover and expose it to contams. Thanks for the responses guys.


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Re: 50/50 cased without lime, am I doomed? [Re: ChronicBarry]
    #4411297 - 07/16/05 12:09 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

ChronicBarry said:

I bought dolomitic pulverized limestone froma garden store, will that work?




no it won't...sorry!~


a good post to read...

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agar said:
There is too much magnesium. It's not a good thing to use. It will do more harm - than good.

Dolomite is a mineral (formula: CaMg(CO3)2) consisting of a calcium magnesium carbonate found in crystals and in beds as dolostone. A pure form of dolostone would be rare, however; it usually intergrades with limestone and is referred to as dolomitic limestone, or in old U. S. geologic literature as magnesian limestone.

Limestone is a sedimentary rock composed of the mineral calcite (calcium carbonate).






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Re: 50/50 cased without lime, am I doomed? [Re: ChronicBarry]
    #4411303 - 07/16/05 12:11 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

No Dolomitic lime has a lot of magnesium in it, it isnt very good for shrooms, try getting garden lime it should say "hydrated lime" "sweetens the soil" or use one of the many other ph buffers, oyster shell, calcium, or just dont use it at all, I think conditions matter more than casing content.


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Re: 50/50 cased without lime, am I doomed? [Re: ChronicBarry]
    #4412251 - 07/16/05 06:18 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

You are not doomed they will still fruit. You can add oystershell although it's not as readily available as a buffer as chalk because of it's inherent water solubility issues. I have seen lots of 50/50 casings as well as 50/50+ (buffers added) :wink:


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