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Offlinesludge
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unpasturised poo(POLL)
    #4405903 - 07/14/05 11:44 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

Who Has Tryed And Had Good Results Or Bad?
unpasturised poo
You may choose only one
Good
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Never Tryed
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Re: unpasturised poo [Re: sludge]
    #4405923 - 07/14/05 11:48 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

I'm never tried and I saw 1 Good vote, Is that you Diver,lol.

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Re: unpasturised poo [Re: HippieChick]
    #4405926 - 07/14/05 11:49 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

no me, lol, i had to vote!!!!


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Re: unpasturised poo [Re: sludge]
    #4406028 - 07/15/05 12:21 AM (11 years, 4 months ago)

anyone can give commits.....feel free to!!!!!!


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Re: unpasturised poo [Re: sludge]
    #4406058 - 07/15/05 12:39 AM (11 years, 4 months ago)

It depends on the h/poo. If it is well aged, weathered through rainfall cycles, ran through a chipper to break up the muffins into fine fiber, had lots of hot UV direct sunlight, turned & dry to the bone. you stand a pretty good chance - without pasturization. But, still - you should hydrate it with very hot - water.



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Re: unpasturised poo [Re: sludge]
    #4406062 - 07/15/05 12:40 AM (11 years, 4 months ago)

I did it for my outdoor shit and it worked fine. I wouldn't really do it for inside because I always notice bugs in the shit. Especially if its aged and has a little extra straw mixed in.


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Re: unpasturised poo [Re: GNIOM1498]
    #4406078 - 07/15/05 12:47 AM (11 years, 4 months ago)

depends on what they feed mister ed. i would definatlly pastuerizei t if they fed em twinkies everyday :-P j/k i know very little about poo.


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Re: unpasturised poo [Re: thegaruda]
    #4406147 - 07/15/05 01:11 AM (11 years, 4 months ago)

see my water coming out of my water heater is 145 degrees so i rehydrate my poo in this for about 30 or so mins till i can put my hands in it and break it up then i put a little cold water in it to cool it down add so verm and spawn so far the results have been outstanding!!!!!


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Re: unpasturised poo [Re: sludge]
    #4406152 - 07/15/05 01:13 AM (11 years, 4 months ago)

agar did you vote would never try?i cant see this coming from you. the man who has tryed everything!!!!


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Re: unpasturised poo [Re: sludge]
    #4407399 - 07/15/05 12:21 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

3 people with success, no failures, and everyone else hasnt or wont try...interesting...


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Re: unpasturised poo [Re: scatmanrav]
    #4407425 - 07/15/05 12:39 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

It's the possibility of bugs that puts me off trying it this way.


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Re: unpasturised poo [Re: Doctor]
    #4407484 - 07/15/05 01:21 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

Doctor said:

It's the possibility of bugs that puts me off trying it this way.




thats why I won't try it.

I don't want any bugs in my grow room this summer!~


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Re: unpasturised poo [Re: Doctor]
    #4407643 - 07/15/05 02:19 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)



-No Pasturization
-Soaked in hot water for 45 min (maybe 130*)
-2 BRF cakes grated in and then cased with 60/40 coco/verm

Now IT worked Great but IT's onyl gonna give off 1 or 2 Flushes before it Contams!

So it's soo easy to Go without PAsturizeing but Your better off in the long run to do it!

I cant Complain though

130 wet for my 1st h/poo Attempt Ever! :mushroom2: :grin:



Maybe next time i'll let it Colnize 100% before i case lol :whack:

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*Edit*  Southpark, please resize that.  Giant pics stretch text across the screen and make the thread difficult to read.  Thanks.


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Re: unpasturised poo [Re: SouthPArk]
    #4407841 - 07/15/05 03:28 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

>but IT's onyl gonna give off 1 or 2 Flushes before it Contams!

Pasteurization is only going to affect colonization, after fully colonized it has the same chances of contaminating as pasteurized stuff (except bug eggs hatching I guess).


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Growing with bags, start to finish (including my new grain and substrate prep)
Anyone looking to start bulk tubs/mono tubs/shotgun hybrids? Good tubs to use..
How I do grain (old still good tips)
Turn your closet into a fruiting chamber
Casing layer colonization and overlay


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Re: unpasturised poo [Re: agar]
    #4407873 - 07/15/05 03:35 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

agar said:
It depends on the h/poo. If it is well aged, weathered through rainfall cycles, ran through a chipper to break up the muffins into fine fiber, had lots of hot UV direct sunlight, turned & dry to the bone. you stand a pretty good chance - without pasturization. But, still - you should hydrate it with very hot - water.






I'm cautious when I pick out my poo, and I don't pasteurize.. I've never had poo contam, only WBS.. And one time, I got bugs, but chased them off with peroxide.. Haven't seen 'em since.


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Re: unpasturised poo [Re: scatmanrav]
    #4407894 - 07/15/05 03:40 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

I stopped pasteurizing 3 grows ago and I've never looked back. I don't even waste time putting the manure into hot water. I will collect my manure, put it directly into water mirroring the mycelium incubation temps, break up thoroughly, place into a colander, cover with foil and allow to drain for 30-60 minutes.

That's it. No cooling off period, no excessive time pasteurizing. Diver gave me the idea one day on another thread and it sure does cut down the time.


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Re: unpasturised poo [Re: Wronguy]
    #4407908 - 07/15/05 03:43 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

Wronguy said:
I stopped pasteurizing 3 grows ago and I've never looked back. I don't even waste time putting the manure into hot water. I will collect my manure, put it directly into water mirroring the mycelium incubation temps, break up thoroughly, place into a colander, cover with foil and allow to drain for 30-60 minutes.

That's it. No cooling off period, no excessive time pasteurizing. Diver gave me the idea one day on another thread and it sure does cut down the time.



Same here, but I use Saran Wrap with holes in it :smile:


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Re: unpasturised poo [Re: SouthPArk]
    #4407941 - 07/15/05 03:49 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

Why don't you resize that. Making this thread not so enjoyable to read.

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Re: unpasturised poo [Re: Wronguy]
    #4408965 - 07/15/05 08:13 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

Wronguy said:
I stopped pasteurizing 3 grows ago and I've never looked back. I don't even waste time putting the manure into hot water. I will collect my manure, put it directly into water mirroring the mycelium incubation temps, break up thoroughly, place into a colander, cover with foil and allow to drain for 30-60 minutes.

That's it. No cooling off period, no excessive time pasteurizing. Diver gave me the idea one day on another thread and it sure does cut down the time.




Well said.  I'm not pasteurizing at all anymore, it's just not worth it, at least in the summer months (UV dried poo)  Also, as an interesting side experiment I recently spawned a trich infested jar of WBS to poo.  The trich grew out slightly at the inoculation points, but never went any further than dime sized spots.  Mycelium overtook the entire thing eventually.

Poo seems to be nearly resistant to trich (green mold).  Try not pasteurizing, you might like it and never look back.  :mushroom2:


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Re: unpasturised poo [Re: Holydiver]
    #4409993 - 07/16/05 12:43 AM (11 years, 4 months ago)

Good information as usual guys...thank you. In truth, because I only do 5 to 10 pound pasterization it isn't a biggie anyway, but still good to know. If only I didn't have to pasteurize straw for my oysters...!!


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