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TrippingDuality
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my first time - mycobag & ecuador (pics)
#4405008 - 07/14/05 06:14 PM (18 years, 9 months ago) |
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hey everybody. i'm brand spanking new to growin and since it was inoculation day i thought i'd post.
i've been lurking here and there reading and learning for about 3 months waiting for everything to come together. and today was the day.
let me explain my grow to you lovely people i am using a grain based mycobag and i got a spore syringe (ecuador) i finally got the mycobag today. i was in a clean room, with gloves on, i used alcohol to clean the bag and syringe. i squirted about 4ccs of the spore solution into the bag and put medical tape over the self healing syringe site. i put the bag in a sealed rubbermaid container that was big enough to let the bag fully lie flat to allow it to expand. i put it in a drawer in a room with the temperature set to 70degrees f, but it tends to get a bit warmer.
the people from mycobag say you can fruit in their bags. but if i'm able to get this bag to fully colonize i will use perlite tek for fruiting. i am so excited. thanks for reading and please comment especially if i'm screwing it up already. i'm really hoping this works. thanks
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I don't know much about bags, but it sounds like you were clean enough. Well anyways welome, GL, and happy growing!
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Re: my first day [Re: Aiko Aiko]
#4405088 - 07/14/05 06:47 PM (18 years, 9 months ago) |
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ive never used bags, but, ive read growlogs and directions suggesting shaking or mixing up the grain after inoculation. It helps increase the inoculation points which = faster colonization. Even if you didn't do it, im sure it will colonize just fine Just do a search in this forum for mycobags, bag growing, etc. Im sure it will pop up a bunch of related threads to give you some more insight on bag growing GL!
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Re: my first day [Re: coda]
#4405095 - 07/14/05 06:50 PM (18 years, 9 months ago) |
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oh btw optimal incubation temps are 82-86 degrees, you should def find a way to heat up that bag some more
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/2921939/an/0/page/0
^^ thats an easy set up, relatively cheap and easy to work with.
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Re: my first day [Re: coda]
#4405118 - 07/14/05 06:58 PM (18 years, 9 months ago) |
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welcome and good luck!!!!
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Re: my first day [Re: sludge]
#4406244 - 07/14/05 11:32 PM (18 years, 9 months ago) |
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thanks so much for the welcome and the advice. i mixed the bag pretty well right after inoculation, and i plan on mixing it again in three days. as far as the heat thing goes, i was thinking of placing it on top of my cable reciever, but i'm thinking that might be too hot. maybe i'll put the thermostat on 75 and see how it goes. thanks again i will keep posting
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TrippingDuality
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happy friday to all! i was thinking about my heat problem last night. i turned the thermostat in the room to 80 degrees f and boy it was hot this morning. i was thinking of buying those air activated heat packs that you get for back pain. has anyone had any experience with those?
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make an incubator!~
do a search for a TIT...Tub in Tub incubator.
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Party on , and take it from me, these people, here at the shoomery know their stuff, good luck.
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Re: my first day [Re: rod]
#4408110 - 07/15/05 02:40 PM (18 years, 9 months ago) |
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i will check out the incubator, but since i'm only doing one bag i think i can control the temps using other methods. i suppose keeping that room hot as an oven is a viable option.
ugh i'm so confused now.... the more i read today the more confused i am. i'm not really worried about the temp, as long as it's near 80 degrees i dont mind waiting a bit for colonization. what i'm confused about is the casing/fruiting situation. what i was planning on doing, had it straight in my mind was to of course let the bag fully colonize, and let the first flush fruit in the bag. then cut the bag at the level of the substrate and place in in an airtight clear rubbermaid container. i was thinking in the bottom an inch or so perlite soaked with 50% water 50% hydrogen peroxide. i was thinking just put the bag on top of the perlite. then putting it in a warm spot that gets indirect sun and opening every day for co2 and misting. is this right? or do i need to case it? should i leave it in the bag? am i being completely stupid? maybe it's my pms. haha. i dont think i'm posting in the right place, maybe i'm just on shroomie info overload i don't know why the hell i'm so confused.
all i know is i'm not going to touch the bag or even peek until sunday (that will be 3 days past inoculation), then i will massage the bag and put it back to bed. i know i have at least 2 weeks before i need to really do anything, but i want to get it straight in my head for when the time comes.
please feel free to make fun of my stupidity.
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Find a warm canent if you can, often one above a light like in a kitchen or bathroom works, on top a computer monitor or TV..anything generating a smal amount of heat. A heating pad in the drawer, on the oppisite side of the drawer from the bags NOT touching it or near it could heat up the drawer and bag as well. Just do not apply any direct heat to the jar and create hot spots...thats way worse then to cold.
>is this right?
That could be right, if thats what you want to do. Does the bag have a filter patch I'm assuming? If so then you can do the first flush in a bag. If it were me though, I would just do what your gonna do for the 2nd flush...it will do better out of the bag, so why not?
>or do i need to case it?
You dont need to, but I would at least throw some moist verm on there if you can get any. It wil increase your yeild.
>should i leave it in the bag?
If you want you can..I would leave at least the bag on the whole time, but when done I would cut off the top to allow for better fresh air exchange. I personally would also case it, unless I didnt have the ingredients and couldnt find either jiffy mix, hofmans starter mix, or vermiculite at walmart or a gardening center around me. All three of those can be used as is for a half assed decent casing, better then nothing..
Also theres a problem with "airtight clear rubbermaid container" and "then putting it in a warm spot that gets indirect sun and opening every day for co2 and misting". Leave it cracked slightly..you dont want air tight, you want gases to be able to excape and fresh air to leak in slowly. It also shouldnt go in a warm spot..the bag goes in a warm spot while colonizing, but when done and ready to fruit you put it in a cooler spot, 70-77 or so. Once a day will be light on the air exchange so try and do it as much as you can. Oh yeah, and..
>all i know is i'm not going to touch the bag or even peek until sunday (that will be 3 days past inoculation), then i will massage the bag and put it back to bed.
You dont massage for no reason, and in 3 days I doubt you'll have any growth, if you do, probably not much. You massage the bag if at all, to break up the mycelium and spread it around other areas of the bag. For that to do any good, you need to have some good sized peices of mycelium in the bag (20%). Sometimes this can stall things though, especially large bags so I might suggest staying away from massaging until 50-70%..
>please feel free to make fun of my stupidity.
Hahahahahaha, stupid!!!! Yeah you. Look at you coming in here and asking all your questions..what do you think this is a place to learn to grow mushrooms! Geez the stupidity of some people! (hows that? )
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TrippingDuality
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thank you for your speedy and lovely reply i'm still freakin confused. you should see my face. haha.
the only reason i was going to massage the bag in 3 days was because when i inoculated the bag, all i did was stick it in the middle somewhere and let about 4 ccs in at once. i did mix it pretty well right after inoculation like i said but i thought mixing it....well who cares what i thought, i'll listen to your advice.
ok i guess i'll read about casing again....i just wanted this first grow to be easy...i see pictures of mycobags with big shroomies growing inside them and i think picking, then cutting open the bag and misting the sides seems so much easier than casing.
i'm probably going to screw it up. i have patience but after reading so much it seems like every question i have has 3953904309239 different answers. maybe my stress is gonna kill the project..haha. wouldn't be the first time.
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Thats because while this is a science, its also an art and there are no exact answers. Everyone has there own and has there own way of doing thing. Cubensis are probably one of the easiest species that exist to cultivate. Optimal conditions, pinsets, and yields are one thing...but just to get them to grow is REALLY easy. From that point, its just maximizing what you get. And dont be discouraged if you fail the first time, like I said it is easy and you'll get it at some point if you stick with it.
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i donno about bags, never tried them, but ive had nothing but success so far with cakes. like you said scat, its really easy even if you only have somewhat of an idea how to do it.
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Welcome!! I have bags, and I have read up on them like crazy. One thing I need to tell you. I learned this the hard way. IS DO NOT CRUMBLE THE BAG. Now people will go back and forth on this but I am going through this right now. I know B+ liked it very much one time and helped it move very fast. I was dumb and did it again. If you are going to do, do it one time and one time only!! I would wait until it is about 20% then do it one time.
as for fruiting I would fruit in the bag the first( to get a good idea about yield in a mycobag) and case the second flush.
casing is SUPER easy if you read up on RK Hpoo tek. I must warn you after you read it, you will find it so easy the you will be overcome by a feeling of....well one can only describe it as "Wanting to hump Road Kill's leg" yes so watch out for that and you'll be OK. PM me if I can help, I will, But by no means am I a pro. I am even on my first grow. I just maid MY OWN cakes few days ago. YAY!!!
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TrippingDuality
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Re: my first day [Re: thremix]
#4408803 - 07/15/05 05:30 PM (18 years, 9 months ago) |
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i just made an adjustment on scat's suggestion. i moved it from the bottom drawer of the hot room to the top of my closet in my bedroom and put the rubbermaid container on top of a dvd player that generates heat when it's plugged in. i put it directly on top of the dvd player- do you think that's too much heat?
so i did look at it, and i have to be honest the smell when i opened the rubbermaid today was pretty strong. but i think it's a clean smell and too soon to tell anyway. i noticed no growth, but i'm not worried yet it's only day 2. i will try not to stress about it too much. thanks again for your help, as you can see i'm going to need it.
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Quote:
trippibri said:
i will check out the incubator, but since i'm only doing one bag i think i can control the temps using other methods. i suppose keeping that room hot as an oven is a viable option.
just stick the bag in a box...and put it over your frig.
the frig will heat your bag like an incubator.
tc
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TrippingDuality
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Re: my first day [Re: Roadkill]
#4408973 - 07/15/05 06:14 PM (18 years, 9 months ago) |
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the dvd player is warm to the touch hopefully i'm not creating any hotspots thanks a million
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best way to check the heat is to buy a thermometer. You can pick up some cheapos over at wallyworld, or even get the little stick on ones they use for fishtanks. Good luck with the grow, just follow directions and you'll be fine!
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Re: my first day [Re: coda]
#4413414 - 07/16/05 11:22 PM (18 years, 9 months ago) |
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pdate: well i checked on the baby today...i know i should leave her alone but well i couldn't help it. i'm a nervous parent. lol. i saw nice condensation on the inside of the bag, and i know the temp is good. i didn't get a chance to buy a thermometer today but i will do it. i think i saw a bit of mycelium at the inoculation spot but i'm not postive. *crosses fingers* thanks for listening
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Good luck! And welcome to the shroomery!
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TrippingDuality
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thank you
would it be possible for someone to post a link to the flower pot tek? i don't have the hang of the search yet. i wanted to look into this since i haven't decided yet. it would be much appreciated. or a link to your favorite will do
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Re: my first day [Re: thegaruda]
#4414336 - 07/17/05 10:10 AM (18 years, 9 months ago) |
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austin - what you want to do is to get the perlite *really* wet (soup like) and nuke it for 5 minutes in the microwave.
Let it cool.
Then just go out and get Jiffy Mix from *any* garden center. Trust me, everyone has it. It is the same stuff as the 60/40 mix people are always talking about here, except it's premade, and already has the pH sorted out too. Just plop some of it in a bowl, get it good and soupy and nuke for 5 minutes.
Get some mini-loaf pans from the grocery store, punch some holes in the bottom (not too big, just enough for excess water to drain) and put down a 1/4 - 1/2 inch of the perlite. Then your substrate, and then a 1/2 inch of the Jiffy Mix. Cover it up and stick it in your incubator for 4-5 days, then fruit. (patch if the mycelium starts to look uneven)
i just found this on the forum and i'm wondering if this is a good idea? i'm still very confused about which way to go with casing. any comments are appreciated so much. thanks again.
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TrippingDuality
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hello all well i've just spent about 4 hours reading about casing teks and so forth. i finally happened upon a thread that showed fruiting in the bags that looked promising. the thing is, since i'm using a mycobag, it's not necessarily going to be a cake is it? so casing i guess would be the real alternative to fruiting in the bag... and i need to stop checking the bag for god sake it's been 4 days...what i thought might be mycelium growth yesterday really isn't. i should probably stop reading so much as it's making me not so patient, but i just want to do this right. i'm worried i my temps might be too high, but i still haven't gotten a thermometer yet. someone feel like adopting a newbie?
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TrippingDuality
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ok had to run out and get a thermometer i got a cheap one from rite aid- looks like it's about 90 degrees in the incubation chamber...i suppose that's not too hot.
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ok so now that i know i am battling thermal death (readings on the thermo were up to at least 100 degrees f during midday today) i have moved away from all heat, room temp only in the dark and we'll see if i killed the baby.
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90 degrees is 4 degrees higher then max incubation temp. You should lower to at least 86 degrees. try to keep the bag between 82-86 degrees if you can
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Re: my first day [Re: coda]
#4423502 - 07/19/05 12:32 PM (18 years, 8 months ago) |
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update: ok i am posting this so if it turns out well people can know that mushies can survive against all odds....haha. ok so yesterday i was pretty sure i had nuked the baby with temperatures way too high and also the bag was starting to dry out. sooo...i inoculated the bag again with the remaining 4ccs. yes 4 ccs. probably too much but another thing is i forgot to shake the syringe so i had to use the rest of it to get the spores in there. temps are now about 85 degrees f give or a degree. i also ordered another bag and spore syringe yesterday. should be here in about a week or so. so i'm going to absolutely leave this bag alone until i get the new one. then we'll see if anything has developed. i'm definitely at a risk for contams because my inoculation was not that clean and because there could be too much moisture and too many spores. when i inoculated this time, i did it 3 times and did not insert my needle through the middle of the substrate. this time i did it at an angle so i could see the liquid moving down the side of the bag. then i mixed it really really well. i'm wondering if sticking the syringe in 3 different times is better...when i get my new bag and syringe i want to do it perfectly. this first one is just a trial and error bag. i'm rooting for the underdog so that's my update. thanks for listening.
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yah, wow, GL with all of that. I predict a nice log of green mold in your future heheh. Hopefully it will work out for you in the end!
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Re: my first day [Re: coda]
#4424680 - 07/19/05 05:44 PM (18 years, 8 months ago) |
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green mold is right. I was just wondering, is 2cc too much for a half pint jar? substrate is brb, verm, spawnmate, and a lot more protien enriched ingrediants, purchased from mycomonsters.
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Re: my first day [Re: jack324]
#4424704 - 07/19/05 05:52 PM (18 years, 8 months ago) |
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2cc is probably fine, and by the way...I messed up a jar huge by nuking it and allowing it to break its top and allow a lot of verm to spill out and obviously being open to the air and contams(not to mention it was nuked for like 1:30). Also, there must have been too much water because it was really sticky, anywho I innoced it anyway thinknig it was a lost cause, and even though it can barely move through the sticky substrate, it has almost colonized 100% with no visible contams. Not sure what to do with it, but it shows that the ones that are expected to fail can come through just fine.
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awesome!!
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Re: my first day [Re: jack324]
#4425123 - 07/19/05 07:32 PM (18 years, 8 months ago) |
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i'm not gonna have green mold think positive we'll have to wait and see
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update: today i have a white spot. there are also white flecks in the grain everywhere. i tried taking a picture but my camera sucks. i'm still worried about contams of course...no green or anything. but there is a small spot in the bottom of the bag that looks a little darker than the grain. it's not black, just maybe looks a little wet. could be trouble i'll keep an eye on it. but i almost jumped for joy at the white spot, the thing is it's on the side of the bag, not down in the substrate. after mixing prob too much some of the substrate stayed on the sides of the upper bag. that's where the myc is forming right now. mycobag 2 should be here in a few days. i'm anxious to try it again. when i get a couple minutes i'm going to write out what i will try for bag #2. thanks for listening.
edit: after looking at pictures of wet spot contams i'm thinking that isn't it. so i'm hopeful again and boy do i want to look at that bag a lot.
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well today i bought a cable free thermometer. this way i can monitor the hottest/coldest temperatures to find the best place for my new bag. i think i should be getting the new bag and syringe by the beginning of next week. i will definitely be taking some photos with this new one. cause it's going to be a perfect example! hah.
any suggestions?
Edited by trippibri (08/05/05 06:32 PM)
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if you are gonna buy again why buy a bag?
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Re: my first day [Re: lardnar]
#4433825 - 07/21/05 02:29 PM (18 years, 8 months ago) |
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you suggest jars? why not a bag? if i do it right? i'm just trying to do a very small personal use grow. i've already bought another bag and syringe. if this 2nd bag attempt doesn't work of course i would try something else. but since i'm trying it this way, i really want to do it right. i would love any help or advice.
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oh my god i am so excited! the myc is forming
p.s. i inoculated 7/14 and reinoculated 7/18 so it's been 7 and 3 days respectively
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i loooove my new thermometer. temps have been at constant 86 and being able to see that magic number displayed on my mantle is sooo great. it's great i don't have to worry that it's being nuked. i will take a pic when the myc can be seen w the camera. and show you my fancy thermometer. i love it
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just a little update: since i can now monitor my temps: overnights i have been finding the temps to be 81-83 degrees. in the day between 85-87. the bag is not 'exploding' with growth, but i can see white balls forming inside now.
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update: the myc is looking good. i would say it's nearly 20% colonized. there are white patches all over the bag, on all sides and white balls growing on top.
i'm starting to get nervous about what exactly i'm going to do next....seems like fruiting it as a cake will be for me because i'm not feeling comfortable with casing. that must sound dumb to you experts but i'm just a nervous first timer. i've been reading nonstop about it, but i just feel like i will mess up. perhaps i will case my 2nd bag because this bag seems to be doing really well. not dead or contamed. i'm trying to be patient
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Nar i went straight into a casing for my first grow, its nothing to worry bout. Yer sure there is a bit to em if u wanna get the best pinset and the optimal conditions for a nice grow but mine was far from that and it still turned out ok. If you got 2 to experiment with id def use one of them on a casing, im sure it will turn out ok for ya if you have done all that non stop reading.
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Re: my first day [Re: BenKenobi]
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thank you ben i'm a little worried today because the myc doesn't look brilliant white.....but it doesn't look like any pics of cobweb, so i don't know. still not sure of what casing tek i will use.
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can u guys link me to all the posts of myco bags w/pics i found one once that was of EQ's that had been left in too long and sporilated everywhere and i wanted to go back to it but forgot to make it a favorite and i can't find it i've been lookingfor two weeks almost! links would be nice especially w/pics i like pics yay thanks
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Re: my first day [Re: spacecase]
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update: myc is looking really freakin good
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ok so i noticed how hard the bag was and the large balls of myc on top of the bag, so i decided to massage. after that i just let everything fall to the bottom of the bag, and did not compact. i'm going to try my very best to let the baby rest and recouperate.
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do you guys see anything wrong? am i doing ok?
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update: it seems the myc is recovering well from yesterday's massage. the upper third of the bag is already colonized, but the bottom third of the bag is still fully brown. it will be fun to see how fast it grows. i bought a gallon of distilled water today. seems i can't go to any store with a garden section without buying something heh.
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update: everything is looking good. a lot whiter too.
i know the temp is a bit high but it was hot as hell here today
dear friends (if anyone is readin) should i break up these big balls in the top of the bag? or just leave em?
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it's cool i like talking to myself lol at any rate this place has so far helped me a lot.
well i inoculated bag #2 today. it took a week longer than expected to get my spore syringe. for some reason the delivery was delayed. this mycobag looked a lot wetter than the first one. i injected this one on each side with about 3ccs total, between the bag and substrate, ecuador again. i mixed it well before and immediately after inoculation, i shook the syringe and was very clean. this time i did not tape over the injection site. with this one i'm keeping it in a sterilite container in the closet of an out-of-the-way room and it's not going to be as hot as bag #1 during incubation. i've been keeping bag #1 around 86-88 degrees. this one will likely be kept more in the 75-80 range. if i can stand it. i'm not going to be checking on it as much either.
bag #1 is almost at 100% that's my baby
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ill talk to ya....lol.... sounds good man keep it up and keep informed i was think of bags myself
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heyyyy thanks for talking to me hehe
ok so i think bag #1 is at 100% sooooo i put foil around the bottom of the bag and put it in a clear rubbermaid stacker standing up. the reason i put the foil on it so the bottom wouldn't pin. do you think this is a good idea? i've come so far i don't want to screw this up now.
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dont keep bag 2 at anything below 80 degrees. It will just slow colonization and confuse the hell out of the myc. You're best trying to keep it at 82-84 with a +/- of 2 degrees (so if it drops 2 you'll be at 80, it raises 2 you'll be at 86) Dont be so frightened over this, looking at your bag and keeping the temps at the optimum rates will not hurt it. I look at my jars at least once a day to make sure i dont have any contams creeping in.
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Re: my first day [Re: coda]
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thanks coda!
what do you think of bag #1? i was just looking over pictures of other people's bags and it doesn't seem like they cover the bottom with foil. but i don't want pinning on the sides or bottom, right? when it does pin i probably will cut the bag about an inch above the substrate and put in in a fruiting chamber.
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bri ill tell ya , dont tinfoil the bag that will slow your yeilds just make sure the light source is well above the bag and they will grow from the sides but will push their way strait on up they are photogenic ( grow towards light source)
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PSI thank you so very very much. i'm taking off the foil now, that's just what i needed to hear. HUGE THANKS
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Those are looking great! I'm waiting on some bags to arrive myself. I've been watching and learning. Excellent grow! Pretty soon it will be party time.
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trippibri said: thanks so much for the welcome and the advice. i mixed the bag pretty well right after inoculation, and i plan on mixing it again in three days. as far as the heat thing goes, i was thinking of placing it on top of my cable reciever, but i'm thinking that might be too hot. maybe i'll put the thermostat on 75 and see how it goes. thanks again i will keep posting
The best time to shake a jar or mix a bag is at about 20% colonization. You want to have a nice, thick, rock like mass in the bag to break up and mix up into the remainder of the substrate. Mix it well so there's colonized seed everywhere in the bag. It will finish up fast.
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Re: my first day [Re: Hotnuts]
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The best time to shake a jar or mix a bag is at about 20% colonization. You want to have a nice, thick, rock like mass in the bag to break up and mix up into the remainder of the substrate. Mix it well so there's colonized seed everywhere in the bag. It will finish up fast.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ this is exactly what i did and i got 100% colonization in about 4-5 days. with bags it's the only way to go. thanks for your comments!!! it means a lot.
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update: bag #1 - ok so when i took the foil off, i put the bag in a yellow tinted rubbermaid with the lid off and placed it on the floor. i put 2 cold packs in with it to cool the bag down. it was 90 degrees f in the house most of the weekend. i lowered the temps and kept the bag in the 69-74 range, mostly 70. it's been getting ambient light from a window across the room. it's very hard to see into the bag because of the condensation and small particles of grain and myc clinging to the bag. but i can see tiny tendrils reaching out in there. maybe more like fuzzy, but hopefully pinning soon.
bag #2 - no signs of myc yet
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if you're trying to fruit you should try to keep the min temp to 72 degrees. I think you're better off to be a little bit warmer then cooler as well. Looking good tho, expect 3-6 days to see some pins GL
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Re: my first day [Re: coda]
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thanks coda
update: things are looking good. i dont want to speak too soon but i think i spotted a couple pins, actually now that i think about it, i see hyphae. the temp was 72 all day with no cold packs, thank goodness the weather is cooling off.
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update: nothing at all is happening inside bag #1 update: nothing at all is happening inside bag #2
i am debating whether to open up bag #1...i've done 2 of the 3 pinning triggers: lowered the temps a full 10 degrees and at least 12 hours natural light per day. maybe i'm just being impatient. but it has been 6 days. is fresh air what this bag needs?
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dont open the bag, if you're seeing hyphae things are working just fine. The filter patch at the top of the bag is providing your air. Just be patient and all will work out.
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Re: my first day [Re: coda]
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i will follow your advice and try to be more patient thank you as always coda for your help.
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Yep.
From what I've read and seen on here, patience is incredibly beneficial for this hobby.
Good luck on your grow
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thank you heinous
update: bag #1, ok i can't say there are pins...but something is happening. hyphal knots, and very very very tiny little white fingers with a speck of brown on the end. it would be impossible to take a photo because i have one small clear-ish spot i have to squint at on the bag to see inside. but...something is going on in there and i'm excited as hell. no funky colors either. wooo hooo! i have had to put a cold pack inside again today, when i got home from work the temps were 80 degrees f....
bag #2 - nothing going on.
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update: no change in either bag
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update: bag #1, no signs of pins, no change or new growth. i understand from reading here that some bags have taken 6 days, 2 weeks, 2 months, and longer to pin. so i'm definitely going to be patient and not open the bag.
well i think it's been 11 days or so since i inoculated bag #2 and no signs of myc, none at all. so i knocked up the bag again with about 2 more ccs...well i did it with the first bag and got it to colonize. we'll see.
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well what do you know i came home to the best present of all! 2 definite pins growing next to each other on the side of the substrate, toward the top. now i can see the distinct difference between hyphae and pins. these are about hmm, the size of a pencil eraser but they LOOK like mushrooms. i couldn't be more excited!
i haven't checked on bag #2
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i bought verm today at fred meyer. it was the last bag on the shelf! it's whitney farms brand, 8 dry quart bag for $5.99. now i have everything i need.
bag #1 has approximately 10 nice looking pins upon inspection today. i took a couple photos but because of the condensation and glare on the bag they didn't turn out well. when the babies get a little bigger i'll try again. you're right coda, these mushies are even more lovely in person.
bag #2 now has some teeny tiny myc growth, flecks of white in the grain, just like bag #1 did.
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Nice to hear that everything is working out for you.
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I love this thread! It really shows the trials of a first time grower in real time: The self doubt and confusion over conflicting advice, the excitement at the slightest change, the impatience and constant checking of the grow and best of all a happy ending. There is nothing like your first time. Man this takes me back.
I really want to see a final picture. The bags are hard to photograph through but you should be able to get a good shot at harvest time when you open the bag. You might try to backlight the bag to highlight the mushrooms or rub the plastic together to remove some of the clinging mycelium and debris to clear a window for a photo.
Excellent thread!
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Re: my first day [Re: Workman]
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awwwwww gosh, thanks a lot. what a nice thing to say.
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this is the most decent pic i could take
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sweet, even my bad eyes can make out at least one of em. Few more days and they'll be good to go
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Re: my first day [Re: coda]
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yay thank you coda!!
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Fatty pins, fatty pins Nice to see some myco bag photos. I'm glad that wonderful growth has come to visit you after your patience
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Re: my first day [Re: Psilovibe]
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thank you so much!
gosh you guys are a lovely buncha people. anybody ever tell you that?
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are they crying out to be let loose from the bag?
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update bag #1 - everything's looking great. tomorrow is the one week mark of fruiting.
update on bag #2 - nothing is going on. what i thought were maybe flecks of myc must have just been my eyes...it has been too long. i emailed the place i got my mycobag from (mycofactory) so hopefully they will send me a replacement.
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On bag two how long has it been since inoculation? It IS possible that there may be some colonization on the inside that you're not seeing. Also good to note if there is no condensation on the inside of the bag there might not be enough mositure which = slow/little/no growth.
You thinking about your next grow yet? Have you considered doing your own jars?
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Re: my first day [Re: coda]
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i messed up i think i messed up i opened the bag and took out the 3 mature fruits but part of the stump is still in there and the whole thing's turning blue and i pulled about 15 pins out at the same time and now i just feel like everything's ruined.
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why did i do that?
pleeease someone tell me this is going to be ok
i just took some tweezers and tried to remove the stump and i pulled out a black seed and some grain too i just know i didn't do this right. am i going to contam because i exposed some substrate? oooohh woe is me please someone tell me how to fix this
i also misted with h202/h20
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*praying to the shroomery gods for guidance*
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if anything, patch it. But I am just a lowly newb
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welp, you harvested WAY to early. May i ask why you grabbed some of those fruits? As far as i can tell all those veils are still intact. You really didnt do any harm to the substrate, you just harvested at an improper time. You might be lucky if you get 2 grams out of that.
You see those holes in the veil? Thats about perfect time to harvest the fruits, if the mushroom is not part of a cluster its ok to go ahead and pick only that fruit. I harvested that guy a full 12 hrs before the rest of the casing. Personally, IMO, its best to harvest when most of you shrooms have dropped the veil and have begun to flatten out a bit.
As for the stump, make sure that you got all of the stem picked off, if it leaves a big hole in the substrate dont worry about it there's nothing you can do. But if you leave any part of the fruit on the substrate it will rot and contam your grow. Make sure you go over the thing with a fine tooth comb picking off all the pins. When i did my harvest last time i dunked my casing and when some of the casing layer washed away i noticed a shit ton of pins i had missed. These till will also die and rot.
It seems like you got a little impatient, there's nothing wrong with it except the fact that your yeild is going to be very low. You really only shortchanged yourself in that aspect, your substrate will be fine, and you should be able to flush it out at least one more time.
I say, dunk it for 12 no more then 24 hours, buy an aluminum baking pan and some coir ( i think you already have verm, right?), and case that sumbitch. Especially if you have another bag going, i promise you the extra few hours it takes to prepare casing material will pay off greatly in the end.
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Re: my first day [Re: coda]
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well coda, i'll tell you why; three little words: I WAS STUPID! first off i had a really shitty day yesterday and i was stuck in the house with no pot all night...i was anxious for a couple newbie reasons....there were three fruits growing at a nice rate, and all the other were growing slowly. i noticed the caps had formed (thinking that was the sign of maturity forgetting about the veils breaking) and i thought if i removed those large fruits the other fruits would grow big as well. i feel like such a big idiot!!!! but there are other fruits growing in the bag, this morning they are bigger. i'm going to be away from my house until tomorrow morning, so we'll see what i come home to. i guess what i'll do is when the pins/mushies stop growing in there (or i guess if they start to rot) i'll pick everything off, dunk and throw in terrarium with some verm. i have to fruit as a cake. i'm sorry i just can't case....this bag is my only chance and i really want to have ONE trip myself out of this. i'm waiting on a friend to bring me her digital scale so i can see what my dry weight is, but i know you're right i'll be lucky to get 2 grams dry. yeah so if i could take back yesterday i sure would. live and learn i guess. *sigh*
i was just thinking. everything that went right with this grow was coincidence. i didn't really do anything besides knock up the bag and wait. i've lost my confidence.
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Hey! Dont go soft on me now! No losing confidence!!! You're doing JUST FINE. Believe me, when i did my first cake, i harvested it probably 2-3 days before i should have!! As for the coincidence part, dont sell yourself short. You did what you were sposed to do! With mycobags if you're fruiting inside the bag, thats all you can do! Knocking up the bag and waiting is pretty much it, besides lowering the temps for fruiting there is not much else you can do.
If you still have shroomies that are growing in your bag you will def get at least one good trip, if not more, out of your grow!! Just make sure with the guys that left to wait it out a bit longer, you're average size should be about 3-5 inches with possibilities for bigger ones in there. So dont think you did anything wrong if you dont pull off any monsters with this grow.
I also was going under the assumption that you harvested your whole bag, but, if you have other guys growing in their not to worry, you will have a decent yeild (count on 4-6 grams, maybe more, i cant really see how good of a pinset you have). Just keep checkin in on em at least once a day, watch for tat veil, and keep your chin up you're doing just fine!
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Re: my first day [Re: coda]
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coda what can i say? you are really my shroomery god! i was getting real damn soft but now i'm feeling better. a million thanks bud!
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well, as much as i appreciate the comment, god is just a bit too strong of a word to be using. diver, roadkill, HC, agar, hyphae etc, i can see, but not me.
I can understand frustration due to problems, but, i dont see any reason for people to lose confidence in their abilities especially with this being your first time. If you feel unsure of yourself do a quick search, if nothing pops up ask a question. Even if you think its a stupid question, ask it anyway, it can save you a lot of heartache and prevent you from losing a lot of time. Keep us posted on the rest of those pins, im sure they will turn out just fine.
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Re: my first time - mycobag & ecuador (pics) [Re: TrippingDuality]
#4555104 - 08/19/05 11:09 AM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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This is my first post. I'm watching this thread carefully, it looks like the easiest way for a newbie like myself to get started. Just wanted to wish you good luck, and have a nice trip.
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Re: my first time - mycobag & ecuador (pics) [Re: Champloo]
#4555176 - 08/19/05 11:31 AM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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coda my continued thanks, your support is invaluable
champloo i'm so glad you can learn from my thread! including my mistakes. if there are any questions i can answer, just let me know.
well i just got home and i'm in a good mood because there are 3 mushrooms that are about 3 inches now in the bag! and a bunch of smaller ones. i dried the little mushies i picked- about 24 hours fan dry, then 24 hours desiccant and they are cracker dry. i still dont have that scale yet, but let's just say it's very very light.
looks like i have a fun day coming for me in the near future. i won't be home until tomorrow again, but i'm so excited to update i'll get a pic then too.
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Re: my first time - mycobag & ecuador (pics) [Re: TrippingDuality]
#4561457 - 08/21/05 12:21 AM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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i was too lazy to get out the camera today, but everything is looking good in bag #1. there is one mushie that is really getting big. no pins have rotted.
bag #2- still nada
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Re: my first time - mycobag & ecuador (pics) [Re: TrippingDuality]
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Re: my first time - mycobag & ecuador (pics) [Re: TrippingDuality]
#4563681 - 08/21/05 05:40 PM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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looking good. do you have to water them if you're using the bag? I see the spray bottle in background and I thought you get it started in the bag and that was all.
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Re: my first time - mycobag & ecuador (pics) [Re: Champloo]
#4563788 - 08/21/05 06:09 PM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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after opening the bag for the first time i misted several times with h202/h20 (this was when i mistakenly started harvesting too early) but i haven't misted since that day.
i will mist however when the cake comes out of the bag for the 2nd flush.
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Re: my first time - mycobag & ecuador (pics) [Re: TrippingDuality]
#4563854 - 08/21/05 06:30 PM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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dude, why dont you just take it out of the bag?
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Re: my first time - mycobag & ecuador (pics) [Re: ChickenNugget]
#4567342 - 08/22/05 05:26 PM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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funnily enough that's exactly what i did! last night i picked one mushie which had dropped it's veil (i could see the gills! neato!) and i thought the cake looked VERY dry & tired so i birthed the cake to perlite terrarium. everything already looks better! the second large mushie (the last of the big ones) looks like it will be ready to pick either tonight or tomorrow morning.
i finally got my digi scale today! so exciting! i can't wait to post my first flush total. i know it's not going to be big, but i'm proud of it anyway
oh and btw coda, you have quite an eye because the pic of the first mushies i picked dried to precisely 2grams. amazing!
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Re: my first time - mycobag & ecuador (pics) [Re: TrippingDuality]
#4567773 - 08/22/05 07:19 PM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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not half bad eh? i've already picked about 4-5 (dry) grams off this cake
edit: the pickings at that point were actually 3 grams. i had a few drying and i overestimated.
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Re: my first time - mycobag & ecuador (pics) [Re: TrippingDuality]
#4568372 - 08/22/05 09:26 PM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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i'm starting to get stir-crazy. i have made arrangements for saturday to be a free day for me, i'm so excited. it's been a long while since i've tripped, since i was in college, and i haven't done it alone yet. but it's only monday night.......not too much longer, i just have to keep telling myself. heh.
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Re: my first time - mycobag & ecuador (pics) [Re: TrippingDuality]
#4568519 - 08/22/05 09:53 PM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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Haha, Don't get too anxious Looking good still! At least you know when to pick now, its not that big a deal. 4 - 5 grams dry off the cake, nice
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Re: my first time - mycobag & ecuador (pics) [Re: Psilovibe]
#4570344 - 08/23/05 10:45 AM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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thanks again psilovibe i'm so very happy this has worked out!
the veil hasn't broken yet. a couple of the smaller ones have gotten a lot bigger.
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Re: my first time - mycobag & ecuador (pics) [Re: TrippingDuality]
#4575789 - 08/24/05 05:30 PM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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what kind of grain is that? May i suggest for a larger yeild to spawn that with hpoo and also what strain is that? but anyway good job on your first grow you should be proud
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Re: my first time - mycobag & ecuador (pics) [Re: mycomatt024]
#4576319 - 08/24/05 07:51 PM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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it's EQ & it's a grain bag from mycofactory. thanks
finally fooled around with my camera today and took a quick macro shot. the veil broke on that big one last night, it's already been picked. you can see the spot it was picked from and the bruising in the bottom right of the pic. but this is the other up and comer i should have wiped off that water droplet, but hey you get the general idea.
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Re: my first time - mycobag & ecuador (pics) [Re: TrippingDuality]
#4578707 - 08/25/05 12:03 PM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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Good deal, so what are you up to, 5 grams dry? Def not bad, if you get the chance to move into casings you'll see better yields for sure Remember the more FAE your babies get the better they are, if you think your cake looks dry you can look into using a well to supply water (basically a straw jammed into your cake which you fill with water to hydrate the cake). Keep it up, hope your trip goes well, 5 grams of B+ grown on BRF had me exploring the outer reaches of space on mon with a fellow shroomerite (whom i discovered living a block away from me ). Enjoy them!
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Re: my first time - mycobag & ecuador (pics) [Re: coda]
#4579750 - 08/25/05 02:10 PM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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thanks coda i couldn't have done it like this without help! i really am so glad it worked out. i can't seem to say that enough! last night i weighed my dried mushies and yep it was 5grams. i have 1 larger and 1 smaller mushie in the drying chamber that hasn't been factored into the total yet. i will post a picture of those dried beauties before i eat them tomorrow for me to be able to have a nice dosage inside of my first flush, i really didn't expect that good of a result. whatever comes up for the 2nd flush is going to be gravy. i haven't decided whether i'm going to take this hobby any farther after this cake expires , but if i do i will definitely case to make the most of my yields. i did a thorough inspection of bag #2 and found a small hole/crack in the seam. this would explain why nothing has happened. i may or may not order another bag, but like i said if i do i will be using it to spawn to poo. tennstud is looking good right about now
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Re: my first time - mycobag & ecuador (pics) [Re: TrippingDuality]
#4581586 - 08/25/05 08:55 PM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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hmm im sure if you wrote to the site you bought your bag from, they might replace it.
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Re: my first time - mycobag & ecuador (pics) [Re: coda]
#4581618 - 08/25/05 09:03 PM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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i emailed mycofactory last week and they emailed me back saying they needed my order number. i'm pretty sure i don't have my invoice and i already deleted my confirmation email. they may still work with me. i didn't inspect it well enough i guess before i knocked it up. the only reason i noticed the tear was because when i checked on it yesterday i saw water droplets INSIDE the rubbermaid it's sealed into. and i was thinking how on earth did that happen? and i looked closer at the bag and there was a small tear at the seam on the side. rats! i'm too lazy to get out my camera, but that mushie in the pic above is getting really big now. and there are 2 others getting big too. so i guess first flush is still on
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Re: my first time - mycobag & ecuador (pics) [Re: TrippingDuality]
#4581993 - 08/25/05 10:17 PM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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so far this is the total of what i have picked & dried. (7grams) the only other mushies i have are still growing.
take a good look cause these are gonna be gone tomorrow
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Re: my first time - mycobag & ecuador (pics) [Re: TrippingDuality]
#4582637 - 08/26/05 12:21 AM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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damn just 1 gram shy of 1/4...lol
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Re: my first time - mycobag & ecuador (pics) [Re: kingfish4200]
#4582871 - 08/26/05 01:21 AM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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Quote:
kingfish4200 said: damn just 1 gram shy of 1/4...lol
i dont know wher eyou get you 1/4s but my 1/4 oz = 7g :P
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Re: my first time - mycobag & ecuador (pics) [Re: Mych]
#4582920 - 08/26/05 01:43 AM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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lol you know your right.i was taking baggie weight in too..lol 1g for the baggie..so when you have a 1/4 of shrooms in a baggie it comes out to 8g's
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Re: my first time - mycobag & ecuador (pics) [Re: kingfish4200]
#4588415 - 08/27/05 06:51 PM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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this is still 1st flush. they are the most potent babies i have ever had in my entire life. you would not believe what my day yesterday was like.
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Re: my first time - mycobag & ecuador (pics) [Re: TrippingDuality]
#4588523 - 08/27/05 07:15 PM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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Lucky Bri, my growing exp so far hasn't been very good.
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Re: my first time - mycobag & ecuador (pics) [Re: Innominate]
#4600097 - 08/30/05 05:43 PM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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i'm really sorry to hear that your project hasn't been successful innominate over the weekend i harvested and dried the shrooms you can see in the picture above, here they are:
running total so far is: 12 dry grams
here's the cake today. so as you can see the larger mushies have grown considerably over the last 2 days. is it time to harvest everything and dunk & roll?
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Re: my first time - mycobag & ecuador (pics) [Re: TrippingDuality]
#4600877 - 08/30/05 08:41 PM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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i say let em sit til the caps open more.
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Re: my first time - mycobag & ecuador (pics) [Re: coda]
#4603233 - 08/31/05 10:33 AM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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ok coda, thanks for the advice, i'll give em a bit longer.
great news about bag #2. mycofactory is AN AWESOME vendor. they are sending me a replacement bag. woo hoo! two thumbs up for mycofactory!
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Re: my first time - mycobag & ecuador (pics) [Re: TrippingDuality]
#4604802 - 08/31/05 06:08 PM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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ok first flush is officially over. i harvested everything, there were a million tiny little mushies/pins/aborts on there, ranging from rice to pea size. now the cake is very very very blue from handling. it is now being dunked in distilled water in an airtight container and i used a small plate inside a ziplock bag to hold it underwater. the water was cold when i poured it in. i'm not going to store it in the fridge, but rather at room temperature. tomorrow i will clean out the fruiting chamber and put some new perlite in there, then roll the cake in verm and throw it back in there. i'm planning to dunk for about 18-24 hours. wish me luck
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Re: my first time - mycobag & ecuador (pics) [Re: TrippingDuality]
#4609494 - 09/01/05 05:35 PM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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just wanted to post my first flush GRAND total
17 (dry) grams
now it's time to wait for pins again
and btw i hate the smell of verm. ewwwwwwwie nasty gross.
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Re: my first time - mycobag & ecuador (pics) [Re: TrippingDuality]
#4613238 - 09/02/05 04:32 PM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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i dreamed of pins last night. this morning, nothing. i wasn't worried. then i just got home from work...and.... we have liftoff! 3 pins more to come. yee-haw!
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Re: my first time - mycobag & ecuador (pics) [Re: TrippingDuality]
#4615131 - 09/03/05 01:07 AM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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mushrooms, the gift that keeps on giving
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Re: my first time - mycobag & ecuador (pics) [Re: coda]
#4634836 - 09/08/05 05:23 PM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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here's an update picture of 2nd flush so far. i took a picture because it's my birthday today and they are singing to me. heh.
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Re: my first time - mycobag & ecuador (pics) [Re: TrippingDuality]
#4640042 - 09/09/05 10:57 PM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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what a difference a day makes
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Cakes in a trash can with syran wrap on top is good enough for a few good high dosers(friends). I like the vermiculite and Brown rice flower mix in 1/2 pint jars. The Myco bags process is less like growing your own. Its More like an uneducational, shure-fire, quicky type deal than actually doing it yourself. Less of an appreciation grows out of the myco bag experiment. May I suggest mycilium-water instead of buying more spores now that you will have ample unused mycilium. In reality, you never need to buy new spores unless your mycilium water is contaminated with contaminated mush-cake particles
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Re: my first day [Re: stemmer]
#4641868 - 09/10/05 11:57 AM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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eh.
had a bit of a misfortune tonight. i was shifting the cake around because it was too heavy in front and accidentally dropped the thing. (only from a height of about 2 inches) the big mushies popped off. thankfully the 2 larger ones had already dropped their veils. so i had to clean everything off and am dunking now. no big deal, i am still pleased w the 2nd flush.
i also got my replacement bag and knocked it up earlier.
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pins today for flush #3
2nd flush total: 6 dry grams would have been better if i hadn't dropped the cake
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