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Trip report: A common theme of my trips
    #4403216 - 07/14/05 01:05 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

NOTE: If your lazy and just want to read the actual trip, start at the 6th paragraph...but its better if you read it from the beginning.

The first time I ever "tripped" was about 4 months ago. I've told this story to a lot of people, some people say it must have been salvia I smoked, and others just said it was intense weed.

I hadn't smoked weed a lot before this, it was probably a once-a-month kinda thing, so I probably had little tolerance. It was also my first time using a water bong, and a nice one at that. My friend and I only had a gram of weed between us, but we were both still kinda rookies (he was more exerienced than I was), so it wasn't a big deal. He had smoked earlier as well, so he was still kinda high.

I noticed the weed looked different, my memory of how it looked isn't very good, I just remember it was lighter than weed I normally saw, and I don't remember seeing any nugs (although I may have, I'm not sure). It also smelt different. When my friend opened up the bag it was really dry and kinda crumbled, and I just thought we got some really bad weed.

I noticed the stuff was a lot easier to smoke than usual, but thats probably because it was a water bong. After 2 hits I was pretty fucked, I just leaned up agansed a punching bag and said "man!" about 50 times. Then I questioned if where I was was the preasent, or if it was just a memory I was recalling. I came to the conclusion that everything we live is just a memory, it never actually happens at all. I knew I was fucked.

My friend was still hittin it, so I decided to hit again too. I kept saying "1 more" untill the whole thing was gone. My friend probably smoked a bit more of it than me, because I didn't clear a few of my bowls (it was my first time with a bong, cut me some slack).

Anyhow, after leaning against the punching bag for a while longer while my friend cleaned up, we proceded downstairs. It probably took me about 2 minutes to get down the stairs, because every step I took, I started laughing. Then I started to see neon stars whenever I closed my eyes. Like the same way neon rods form letters, they were forming stars. I think they were just red or yellow, but I'm sure that doesn't matter lol.

Anyhow, once I got to the bottom of the stairs, my friend had a rap beat going. He seemed to be full of energy, I was much more tired than usual (I never usually burn out). My friend always freestyles when he's high, so he put on this beat that had a jazz feel to it, and started rapping. I started dancing to the beat right away, not quick dancing, just really slow and mellow. I understood the first line that he spit, and then I was gone. All I could hear was the beat, I knew my friend was still rapping but I couldn't hear it.

All of a sudden I was up on stage, in a dark, smokey jazz bar. I was the entertainment, everyone was there to see me dance (I'm a horrible dancer by the way). But the audience wasn't filled with people, they were teddy bears. They were about 4 feet tall, all sitting at their tables drinking random drinks and watching me. Also up on stage with me there were other bears, playing instruments and whatnot.

Up above on a second floor were larger teddy bears, which seemed to be like bouncers. I was aware that I was imagining all this, and I still knew where I was, but it still gave me an uneasy feel. If I remember correctly, I could kinda go back and fourth between reality and this world at will. I didn't like this world of teddy bears, it creeped me out, but at the same time I was interested by it, so I went back.

I then realized that the smaller teddy bears were my childhood toys, and all of a sudden I was filled with memories of my childhood. I knew then that the bears were dissapointed with me. I was once an innocent, carefree child, and now I was getting into the world of drugs. Still, I danced.

I then notcied a large face, staring down at me. In reality it was actually a drawing of me that my friend did a few nights before, making it look really grotesque as a joke. Now I saw it as the devil (or something evil like that), and it was just watching me, with this grin on its face. I had fallen into it's trap, I was now a druggy, I had lost all innocence.

Now I was really freaked out, and I wanted to go back to reality. Suddenly I could hear my friends voice again, he was still rapping. He'd say something, than laugh (usually I'd laugh along, but I couldn't really understand it). Then everytime he'd laugh I'd laugh too, just to be polite. I'm sure it really was funny, but I just couldn't understand it.

After he was done we went to sit down. I was burnt out for the first time in my life, and this was only like 15 minutes after we'd smoked. My friend still had lots of energy, he wanted to box me and shit, and I kept saying "No man I can't". I felt really bad for being a let down, but I don't think I coulda moved if I wanted to. Plus...if I boxed him I would have been murdered.

After about 10 minutes he was burnt out too (he always burns out quick). He fell asleep within 5 minutes, and I just lay on the chair I was on. I don't sleep, I dunno why I just never do, I'm an insomniac I guess. Anyhow, we had cartoons on. Whenever the music was "evil", I'd feel really evil myslef, it made me want to curl up and die. I'd remember the whole teddy bear thing and freak out. I know it sounds like a funny thing to be scared of, but it still creeps me out to this day.

Whenever the music was nice (they were kiddy cartoons so it usually was), I would just go to this warm place and feel amazing, it was really cool. I just kinda chilled there listning to the sounds with my eyes closed, and eventually I actually fell asleep.

Although some people say it was definately salvia that I smoked, I have a few reasons to disagree.

1. Most people say your unable to smoke more after 1 or 2 tokes, and I was a rookie (I still sorta am), so I'm sure I wouldn't be able to do more than that

2. My friend was unnafected. He seemed to be acting pretty normal. Mind you he quit weed for about a month after that (as did I), so maybe he experienced something he's not telling me.

3. Salvia is expensive. I doubt the person I got it off of would give me salvia insted of weed, because he'd just be losing money. It might be a different story if he was there watching...but he wasn't.

This is why I don't think it was salvia, I probably just got super fucked..but either way...it was cool.

Anyhow on to the point of my topic (took long enough). I've had 2 experiences now where I've had OEVs, and both times had the same theme. They were both featured kiddy things (teddy bears in one, and a giant playpen like thing in the other). I'm curiouse to know if this will continue, and I want to try to figure out why it's happeneing at all. Maybe it's just a coincidence, but I'll probably soon find out.

Has anyone else noticed a common theme for hallucinations when they trip? And has anyone figured out why this common theme occurs?

Thanks for reading.


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Re: Trip report: A common theme of my trips [Re: Tyrone_C]
    #4403525 - 07/14/05 02:36 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

I guess it could have been plain salvia leaf (which is MUCH cheaper than bud by the way). However what you described sounds more like bud to me. How long did the effects last? Did it make you feel sluggish or sleepy/dreamy? Salvia doesn't really make you feel dreamy its more INTENSE and like HOLY FUCK, its generally not laid back, and the effects are very short lasting especially if its plain leaf.

In my opinion seeing as you've only smoked bud a couple of times I would guess it was just very good bud. You probably sat back and zoned out, more like passed out, into a daydream like state while in the basement. I would put money on it that you passed out for a few minutes or maybe longer.


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Re: Trip report: A common theme of my trips [Re: THE KRAT BARON]
    #4403590 - 07/14/05 02:51 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

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mattzdope said:
I guess it could have been plain salvia leaf (which is MUCH cheaper than bud by the way). However what you described sounds more like bud to me. How long did the effects last? Did it make you feel sluggish or sleepy/dreamy? Salvia doesn't really make you feel dreamy its more INTENSE and like HOLY FUCK, its generally not laid back, and the effects are very short lasting especially if its plain leaf.

In my opinion seeing as you've only smoked bud a couple of times I would guess it was just very good bud. You probably sat back and zoned out, more like passed out, into a daydream like state while in the basement. I would put money on it that you passed out for a few minutes or maybe longer.




The effects lasted about 4-5 hours, but most of that was just being burnt out, the actual trippyness was about 10 minutes (or thats what it felt like). It did make me feel sleepy, mind you weed normally doesn't do that to me. And although it was my first experiance with hallucinations, I wouldn't describe it as a "HOLY FUCK!" feeling lol.

"I would put money on it that you passed out for a few minutes or maybe longer."

Are you talking about when the whole teddy bear shit was going on? I know I definately wasn't passed out during that because I was dancing the whole time lol, and I was standing. I definately fell asleep a few hours after I smoked it though, for about 2-3 hours.


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Re: Trip report: A common theme of my trips [Re: Tyrone_C]
    #4403944 - 07/14/05 03:54 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

Sounds like good pot to me. With the salvia you would have been immediately totally messed up as soon as you took your tokes. What did it taste like? That could tell us for sure, but I am pretty sure it was just great bud!


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Re: Trip report: A common theme of my trips [Re: mecreateme]
    #4404024 - 07/14/05 04:11 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

no reason why it could not have been grass - good grass
salvia or extract is cheap enough to give away, but the session would have been extremely intense after about 90 seconds for only 5 minutes.
then it would be fairly calm.
but
it could have been nice grass spiked by some salvia or dmt if you did get the quickly passing peak into a grass high???
or maybe just good grass


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Re: Trip report: A common theme of my trips [Re: Tyrone_C]
    #4404845 - 07/14/05 07:14 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

When the earth moves beneath your feet..

I think you were hit with the combination good weed/water bong.
This combi can make you very high very fast.

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I then realized that the smaller teddy bears were my childhood toys, and all of a sudden I was filled with memories of my childhood. I knew then that the bears were dissapointed with me. I was once an innocent, carefree child, and now I was getting into the world of drugs.




Wow this is so beautiful from a psychological point of view.. It's symbolism at its finest.

When I read this I literally thought: "Oook within a paragraph or so shit hits the fan" and it did. And I can tell you why.
(Grofian psychology)

You rejected yourself and to avoid facing yourself you fought the experience. It was easier to suffer the trip than to suffer rejection of yourself.

In your mind, deep down, drugs are a bad thing and it felt like a betrayal of your purity, like porn to a priest. Drugs for you on a semi-conscious level symbolize the moral gutter, a decline of your life made tangible through a self-destructive act.

Drugs are neutral Tyrone, so something has to change.
Either you stop using drugs and make more of your life or you continue to use drugs and use them to make more of your life.

Read lotsa reports here: Psychedelics can elevate you and aid your personal growth, or take you down. To a healthy person it is you who makes the difference.

These images are far too specific to not have a profound message, Tyrone, so either continue your voyage to find out that message psychedelically or don't use drugs and find out the message through the everyday world. You're not fucked, if that's what you think, you're offered an opportunity.

If I were you I would use no more often than once a month and less weed than you did. Weed did it for you. That usually means that you're at the verge of a breakthrough in your life.
Don't "graduate" to mushrooms: in your case, for now, "the weed is all you need" and mushrooms might be too much for you to be useful or even cope with. But then again, perhaps not.

Love yourself and watch yourself closely. If your functioning takes giant leaps backwards visit a shrink, but I believe you're just very close to a breakthrough in your life. That can be tremendously exciting but also tremendously scary. Perhaps you are taken back to childhood because something happened back then you never truly accepted. Perhaps it is the present you're not at peace with.
Find peace with yourself. Find peace with your past, present and future, and the universe at large :heart:


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Re: Trip report: A common theme of my trips [Re: Asante]
    #4405467 - 07/14/05 10:07 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

Bravo!! I was hoping someone would pick up on these very obvious psychological symbols. I sure as hell didn't know what they meant, but I could tell they meant something!

Great job Wiccan Seeker!! I LOVE me some psychology!!!


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Re: Trip report: A common theme of my trips [Re: Tyrone_C]
    #4405825 - 07/14/05 11:28 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

redgreenvines said:
did get the quickly passing peak into a grass high???




I guess...it was more like a quickly passing peak than burning out.

Quote:

Wiccan_Seeker said:
When the earth moves beneath your feet..

I think you were hit with the combination good weed/water bong.
This combi can make you very high very fast.

Quote:

I then realized that the smaller teddy bears were my childhood toys, and all of a sudden I was filled with memories of my childhood. I knew then that the bears were dissapointed with me. I was once an innocent, carefree child, and now I was getting into the world of drugs.




Wow this is so beautiful from a psychological point of view.. It's symbolism at its finest.

When I read this I literally thought: "Oook within a paragraph or so shit hits the fan" and it did. And I can tell you why.
(Grofian psychology)

You rejected yourself and to avoid facing yourself you fought the experience. It was easier to suffer the trip than to suffer rejection of yourself.

In your mind, deep down, drugs are a bad thing and it felt like a betrayal of your purity, like porn to a priest. Drugs for you on a semi-conscious level symbolize the moral gutter, a decline of your life made tangible through a self-destructive act.

Drugs are neutral Tyrone, so something has to change.
Either you stop using drugs and make more of your life or you continue to use drugs and use them to make more of your life.

Read lotsa reports here: Psychedelics can elevate you and aid your personal growth, or take you down. To a healthy person it is you who makes the difference.

These images are far too specific to not have a profound message, Tyrone, so either continue your voyage to find out that message psychedelically or don't use drugs and find out the message through the everyday world. You're not fucked, if that's what you think, you're offered an opportunity.

If I were you I would use no more often than once a month and less weed than you did. Weed did it for you. That usually means that you're at the verge of a breakthrough in your life.
Don't "graduate" to mushrooms: in your case, for now, "the weed is all you need" and mushrooms might be too much for you to be useful or even cope with. But then again, perhaps not.

Love yourself and watch yourself closely. If your functioning takes giant leaps backwards visit a shrink, but I believe you're just very close to a breakthrough in your life. That can be tremendously exciting but also tremendously scary. Perhaps you are taken back to childhood because something happened back then you never truly accepted. Perhaps it is the present you're not at peace with.
Find peace with yourself. Find peace with your past, present and future, and the universe at large :heart:




Thanks, great post, I agree 100%. I was really edgy about smoking weed, mainly because I used to run...not the best combination. Since I got surgery I haven't been able to run so poof...problem eliminated. I've never had an experience with this negitivity since.

You must also remember that this was 4 months ago, so I'm sure some stuff changed. I've smoked a lot of weed since then...well a lot for me, and haven't experienced anything else like it. I've also moved up to shrooms, and I'd like to hear your comments on my trip. It's posted around on the first or second page somewhere if you wanna get to reading it (it's hella long). I still haven't had this "breakthrough" you mentioned...but my life feels like it's lacking something...so hopefully I have it soon lol. I'd prefer to find it without drugs, but if the shrooms wanna help me out I'm all for it :smirk:


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Re: Trip report: A common theme of my trips [Re: Tyrone_C]
    #4407276 - 07/15/05 11:09 AM (11 years, 4 months ago)

i think a lot of people feel that something is missing... we get to know SO MUCH and yet implement so little in our lives!
we have a million options and yet we only get a few (which might not be the best options)

you might even find out that what you're missing is in fact something you cannot get... maybe its just a crazy expectation you have of life and it won't ever be fulfilled?
you must be ready to except what ever is out there waiting for you either stoned or not...

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Re: Trip report: A common theme of my trips [Re: Simisu]
    #4450972 - 07/25/05 04:45 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

Interesting that you mentioned teddybears. About a week ago I had a trip (about 4g's dried) and while lying in a field staring at some clouds one of them began to take the form of a giant teddybear, and when I had noticed this I started to feel a "dark" feeling wash over me. Aware of this, and not wanting to spoil what had been soo far the best trip I've had yet, I simply shrugged it off, accepted it, and made a mental note of it for later on. I didn't feel that the bear had any sort of familiarity to it (least none that I've picked up on yet) although I still find it a little strange that an image usualy associated with happiness would actualy have the opposite effect on me. This hasn't been a reoccuring theme or anything with me, though I, like you also do wish that I hadn't started doing any drugs to begin with (though I don't necessarily regret having done them). Although I don't know if these experiences could even have remotely the same meaning, since you had mentioned that in your experience the bears seemed disappointed in you, where in my experience it just felt like another cloud that just happened to be shaped like this.

Anyways, unfortunately I don't have any advice for you, though I deffinitely find your experience very interesting. If you or anyone else have any feedback to the experience I just shared I'd be interested to hear it.


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Re: Trip report: A common theme of my trips [Re: StickyWater]
    #4451344 - 07/25/05 05:55 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah it's weird that what is usually seen as a nice, warm thing from childhood, can cause such uneasyness.

By the way I don't regret starting drugs, if I did I would stop, it's just that simetimes when I do them I regret doing it when I'm high...it sucks but oh well, it only happens sometimes.


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Re: Trip report: A common theme of my trips [Re: Tyrone_C]
    #4451796 - 07/25/05 07:13 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

hmmmm yeah, I can relate, usualy when this happense to me I take it as a sign that I'm doing it more often than I should be and try to cut back, unfortunately rarely do I have much luck in doing so, just because the opportunity comes up soo many times each day, and otherwise I end up spending weeks alone, seems like I'm the only person I know who seems to think it's impossible to get high too often *shrug*


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Re: Trip report: A common theme of my trips [Re: StickyWater]
    #4452625 - 07/25/05 11:09 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

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hmmmm yeah, I can relate, usualy when this happense to me I take it as a sign that I'm doing it more often than I should be and try to cut back, unfortunately rarely do I have much luck in doing so, just because the opportunity comes up soo many times each day, and otherwise I end up spending weeks alone, seems like I'm the only person I know who seems to think it's impossible to get high too often *shrug*




Yeah..I don't think doing it too much is an issue for me..I smoke weed like once a week now and I've only shroomed once. I guess maybe when I'm high my subconciouse is telling me that doing it at all is too much.


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Re: Trip report: A common theme of my trips [Re: Asante]
    #4458586 - 07/27/05 03:31 AM (11 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

Wiccan_Seeker said:
When the earth moves beneath your feet..

I think you were hit with the combination good weed/water bong.
This combi can make you very high very fast.

Quote:

I then realized that the smaller teddy bears were my childhood toys, and all of a sudden I was filled with memories of my childhood. I knew then that the bears were dissapointed with me. I was once an innocent, carefree child, and now I was getting into the world of drugs.




Wow this is so beautiful from a psychological point of view.. It's symbolism at its finest.

When I read this I literally thought: "Oook within a paragraph or so shit hits the fan" and it did. And I can tell you why.
(Grofian psychology)

You rejected yourself and to avoid facing yourself you fought the experience. It was easier to suffer the trip than to suffer rejection of yourself.

In your mind, deep down, drugs are a bad thing and it felt like a betrayal of your purity, like porn to a priest. Drugs for you on a semi-conscious level symbolize the moral gutter, a decline of your life made tangible through a self-destructive act.

Drugs are neutral Tyrone, so something has to change.
Either you stop using drugs and make more of your life or you continue to use drugs and use them to make more of your life.

Read lotsa reports here: Psychedelics can elevate you and aid your personal growth, or take you down. To a healthy person it is you who makes the difference.

These images are far too specific to not have a profound message, Tyrone, so either continue your voyage to find out that message psychedelically or don't use drugs and find out the message through the everyday world. You're not fucked, if that's what you think, you're offered an opportunity.

If I were you I would use no more often than once a month and less weed than you did. Weed did it for you. That usually means that you're at the verge of a breakthrough in your life.
Don't "graduate" to mushrooms: in your case, for now, "the weed is all you need" and mushrooms might be too much for you to be useful or even cope with. But then again, perhaps not.

Love yourself and watch yourself closely. If your functioning takes giant leaps backwards visit a shrink, but I believe you're just very close to a breakthrough in your life. That can be tremendously exciting but also tremendously scary. Perhaps you are taken back to childhood because something happened back then you never truly accepted. Perhaps it is the present you're not at peace with.
Find peace with yourself. Find peace with your past, present and future, and the universe at large :heart:



Thanks for this post Wiccan.... Couldn't have been read at a better time... you just cleared so much shit up for me (regarding my upcoming trip on thursday and myself in general) Thanks so much!


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