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OfflineTodcasil
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redifining love
    #4400766 - 07/13/05 07:05 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

there are times in my life when i think that i have pinpointed what love is... what TRUE love is. but when i look back at those moments (and they were mere moments and very fleeting) i see that what i thought was love, was just selfishness. just a momentary feeling of having exactly what you want right when you want it, and not wanting it to leave. how selfish against that person your cherishing! how selfish that you want to hold them forever and not let another person ever ever look into there eyes again.

THATS not love.

i think if you can say "this is love", then that immidiatly qualifies it as not love. i think the closest way of pinpointing what love is, is to identify what it is not.

most agree that love exists, that there is SOMETHING we call love that floats around in our hearts minds actions or what have you, but if you identify what we feel as love, what anyone feels or defines as there love, it is all selfish.

only when you cannot define it, is when it is this "love".

you can say what love is not, and that simply broadens the magnitude of what it truly is.

love is not selfish, not rude, not degrading, not painful.

it really isnt.

but we associate pain and selfishness and rude behavior and degrading thoughts with the "definition" of love we harbor. but it is in the defining that these traits come out.

do not define your love! in your life simply, define what love is not, and you will truly see what love can feel like.

edit* - but you wont be able to describe it.

~Todcasil


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~Casil



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Edited by Todcasil (07/13/05 07:19 PM)


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Re: redifining love [Re: Todcasil]
    #4400774 - 07/13/05 07:07 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

As Madge the manicurist used to say, "You're soaking in it!"


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Re: redifining love [Re: Todcasil]
    #4400784 - 07/13/05 07:09 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

hehehe he's on a roll! i like the thoughts you're having tonight man...  :thumbup:

you should check out "the mastery of love" by don miguel ruiz... one of the greatest books on human relationships and on what love is (or isn't) that have ever found their way into my hands...


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Re: redifining love [Re: Todcasil]
    #4400790 - 07/13/05 07:10 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

Did you not just make a post criticizing those who seek the meaning behind their feelings? Who are you to tell me what love is or is not? Perhaps your next post should be about hypocrisy.


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Re: redifining love [Re: WeAreAllOne]
    #4400800 - 07/13/05 07:14 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

i just made a post about people who survive but letting other people validate what emotions they have. and really the post was about the people who make it seem like everone must be validated, about the people who want to decide for other what is right and wrong.

and just for the record "weareallone" im not telling anyone to do anything. im simply writing my thoughts with people who i thought might be interested in them.

maybe you shoudl go be one somewhere else instead of calling me a hypocrite?

laid back discussion?


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Re: redifining love [Re: WeAreAllOne]
    #4400815 - 07/13/05 07:21 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

The dark side is growing strong in you...

Toadcasil...what drugs are you on right now?


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Re: redifining love [Re: Todcasil]
    #4400818 - 07/13/05 07:22 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

I don't care at all what you write

And you should not care what I write

Nor take offense to it

Very few don't lash out when their beliefs are tried

:heart:


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Re: redifining love [Re: WeAreAllOne]
    #4400824 - 07/13/05 07:25 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

love is the only thing that exists


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Re: redifining love [Re: WeAreAllOne]
    #4400826 - 07/13/05 07:26 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

afoaf, my sytem is pure and has been for some time. thats the interesting part.

weareallone: id rather post and not have anyone post if all they were going to say is "how dare you".

id rather have a million posts and no replies then one post and a million replies of people saying "how dare you type this".


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GODDESSES
Women look at themselves and they seem utterly human, when looking at men they see proud
GODS.


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Re: redifining love [Re: Todcasil]
    #4400870 - 07/13/05 07:40 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

well, you sound like you're a little down and out.


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Re: redifining love [Re: afoaf]
    #4400912 - 07/13/05 07:53 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

it snot so much down and out, as it is... well...

enchanted with disenchantment :heart:

i get like this once a month, i dont apologize, i get like this so i can be my other self all the days everyone loves me.

make sense?

:heart:


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GODDESSES
Women look at themselves and they seem utterly human, when looking at men they see proud
GODS.


~Casil



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Re: redifining love [Re: Todcasil]
    #4401584 - 07/13/05 10:57 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

"Love is not affectionate feeling, but a steady wish for the loved person's ultimate good as far as it can be obtained."
-- C.S. Lewis
:thumbup:


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Re: redifining love [Re: Icelander]
    #4401642 - 07/13/05 11:20 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

i just think you cant define love without soiling what it really is. :shrug:


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Men look at themselves and they see flawed humans, we look at women and we see perfect
GODDESSES
Women look at themselves and they seem utterly human, when looking at men they see proud
GODS.


~Casil



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Re: redifining love [Re: Todcasil]
    #4401739 - 07/13/05 11:56 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

Sure you can.
What is it really? :heart:


Edited by Icelander (07/13/05 11:57 PM)


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Re: redifining love [Re: Todcasil]
    #4402587 - 07/14/05 08:44 AM (11 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

Todcasil said:

enchanted with disenchantment :heart:






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Re: redifining love [Re: Gillette]
    #4402590 - 07/14/05 08:46 AM (11 years, 4 months ago)

1. A word used to get a man out of a sticky hole, or indeed into one.
2. A myth created by fairytales, endorsed by movies then destroyed by reality.


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Re: redifining love [Re: Gillette]
    #4402624 - 07/14/05 09:16 AM (11 years, 4 months ago)

damn that's a bit cynical! love, as i've experienced it, is a bit like ego loss - except occuring through the melding of two people, instead of one...


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Re: redifining love [Re: Gillette]
    #4403041 - 07/14/05 12:14 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

:lol: I'm going with Gillette.


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Re: redifining love [Re: adrug]
    #4403057 - 07/14/05 12:18 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

hmmmmm


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Re: redifining love [Re: Gillette]
    #4403107 - 07/14/05 12:31 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

Oh, you're talking about that kind of love. The, I want this, I want that, it didn't happen boo hoo kind. I thought you meant Love. :grin:


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