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How can one tell?
    #4399428 - 07/13/05 01:24 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

How would one tell if the 1/2 pint jars, he PC 24 hours ago are Dry or wet, good or bad? I THINK it looks dry? Not sure what one would look like lol.


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Re: How can one tell? [Re: thremix]
    #4399435 - 07/13/05 01:25 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Visible pools of water = bad.  Otherwise, inject the jars and find out. :laugh:


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Re: How can one tell? [Re: thremix]
    #4399437 - 07/13/05 01:26 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Experience. When you shoot one up, you'll see how the growth goes, if it goes shitty, next time you know that when the jars look like they do, the water content is improper, if it goes well, you know you got it right.


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Re: How can one tell? [Re: thremix]
    #4399453 - 07/13/05 01:31 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

I gather you are doing brf. If so, it is more important to get enough vermiculite mixed in so the brf does not pack like concrete. It just has to be moist, not slimy. If you are doing rye, it is very difficult to get it too dry after soak, boil, pc and has to be as dry as you can get it or you get a big puddle on the bottom of the jar after the myc starts up.


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Re: How can one tell? [Re: red914]
    #4399471 - 07/13/05 01:37 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

if you follow the direcs for making jars exactly you wont have a problem :smile:  GL man


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Re: How can one tell? [Re: coda]
    #4399552 - 07/13/05 02:00 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

you can't go wrong as long as you stayed with the tek. 2:1:1 ratio of verm to brf to water. they may appear dry when in all actuality they are not. i thought they were too dry a couple of batches ago and they colonized very well.
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Re: How can one tell? [Re: backupwards2]
    #4399567 - 07/13/05 02:03 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

the first pf tek i read said the ratio was like 140:40 in ml. but everywhere on this forum it says 2:1. for verm/brf. weird.


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Re: How can one tell? [Re: coda]
    #4399711 - 07/13/05 02:34 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

coda said:

if you follow the direcs for making jars exactly you wont have a problem




very true!~


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Re: How can one tell? [Re: Roadkill]
    #4400216 - 07/13/05 05:08 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

I put very very little water on top of what the mix was. Few drops.

But Did I maybe PC to long? They look Dry, But like I said Not sure what dry would look like. On BRF. Maybe the water from the spores will help this?


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Re: How can one tell? [Re: thremix]
    #4400834 - 07/13/05 07:30 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

I can tell you this, this is only my first grow, but i thought that my substrate was too dry as well. But, i followed the ratio described in the tek and now 14 days later im dunking my first cake with 4 more ready to go in another day. So if you followed the PF tek maximum of 1/4 cup of water to 1/2 cup verm and 1/4 cup brf per jar (please forgive if i messed the ratios up im too lazy to search right now) you will be ok. To me the substrate felt like damp sand when i was done with it. If anything you should see a few drops of water in the bowl when you push the sub up the sides of the bowl. When i noc'ed up my two (new) GT jars i didnt even see any water, but now at 4 days in they're already showing great signs of colonization (much faster then the B+). So, like i said, just follow the direcs exactly and you will have no problems.

Also, i would severely caution you NOT to add anymore water to your jars, i had one jar that i didnt pc and noc'ed up just as a test, it dried out, and i added 5 cc's of distilled water to it. 3 days later it was a HUGE lump of green. When in doubt, throw it out, and start over again. Losing one or two days is so much better then losing two weeks. GL man, if i can do this anyone can!


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Re: How can one tell? [Re: coda]
    #4400967 - 07/13/05 08:13 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Thank you for your great informatio, Nice to know some one new around here did cakes and feels like me lol. So the only thing I'm worryed about is if I pc to long. 10psi 1 hour. 1 jar was like 40min. (it ran out of water&yes I PCd 1 jar lol)


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Re: How can one tell? [Re: thremix]
    #4401302 - 07/13/05 09:29 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

I have been doing the alien sub tek, and the first time I had read where someone said the recipe had too much water in it, so I cut down on the water....a couple of jars died and stopped colonizing. The next time around, I used the exact recipe and they are sprinting from the start gate with no stallage. As said previously in the post....adjust as needed.


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