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Alien Invasions Re Us
    #4398997 - 07/13/05 09:34 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

In the movies and Sci-Fi it's always some other-worldly plot against humans like the 'Body Snatchers' and about ten new things on TV.

But why not show what it would be like if the Earth took over other planets? Would we be nice or good to them? I think our fear of invasion is homocentric and based in our own greedy and insincere motives towards ourselves.

At the very least, how about an invasion movie where the invaders are less intelligent than us, and they become our pets. I mean, there are other space invader themes.


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Re: Alien Invasions Re Us [Re: eve69]
    #4399080 - 07/13/05 10:40 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

or how about if they invade a planet thats made of 75 percent water and then relize they are allergic to water... maybe the guy who made the village could make a movie about that... and throw a christianity theme into it also....

best alien move was mars attacks.
oh there was a series called space above and beyond and it was about us colonizing planets, and waring with aliens on those planets... so i guess thats kindof what youre looking for.


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Re: Alien Invasions Re Us [Re: roby000]
    #4399202 - 07/13/05 11:38 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Pretty much. I once started a script about a human spacefaring race of Catholic Vikings which go from sentient planet to sentient planet raping, pillaging, destroying, while spreading their religion. Their ship could have been named POX, or something.

I didn't want to just come out with it, that I think we humans are egoic, selfish and small minded, even the best of us. I didn't want to go there. I was hoping someone else woould say it. I hate to proseltyze.

On Earth I cannot find anyone better than the Dalai Lama for wisdom. Except maybe the old black man at the corner store.


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Re: Alien Invasions Re Us [Re: eve69]
    #4399206 - 07/13/05 11:39 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

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In the movies and Sci-Fi it's always some other-worldly plot against humans like the 'Body Snatchers' and about ten new things on TV.

But why not show what it would be like if the Earth took over other planets? Would we be nice or good to them? I think our fear of invasion is homocentric and based in our own greedy and insincere motives towards ourselves.

At the very least, how about an invasion movie where the invaders are less intelligent than us, and they become our pets. I mean, there are other space invader themes.




umm.. "amistad"?


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Re: Alien Invasions Re Us [Re: OldWoodSpecter]
    #4399215 - 07/13/05 11:44 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

eve if you want just change it to a race of aliens that arent humans and set it somewhere that isnt earth, alot of sci fi dose this. it will subtlely hide your message about humans being assholes. i saw the dali lamma in florida about a year ago. he let people ask him some questions but they ruined them with questions like "what do you think of alquieda" and "whats the meaning of life" i would have asked something more around the lines of what is your favorite food. or what did you have for lunch today.


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Re: Alien Invasions Re Us [Re: roby000]
    #4399222 - 07/13/05 11:49 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

yea, how about invasion of Naboo by Trade Federation? If you consider that those Neimoidians were people in latex suits, then it is an invasion of humans


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Re: Alien Invasions Re Us [Re: eve69]
    #4399226 - 07/13/05 11:50 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

the earth and government is alrady taking over other planets.

thats why it isnt considered Sci-fi, its in current events, and wallstreet journal :lol:


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Re: Alien Invasions Re Us [Re: AbstractHarmonix]
    #4399231 - 07/13/05 11:52 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

what are you talking about?


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Re: Alien Invasions Re Us [Re: roby000]
    #4399235 - 07/13/05 11:54 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

didn't you se those new slaves coming in to work in giant supermarkets, where do you think they come from, earth?  :rolleyes:


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Re: Alien Invasions Re Us [Re: OldWoodSpecter]
    #4399240 - 07/13/05 11:56 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

the walmart night stalkers are aliens? and not immigrants? woah. all hail the mighty earh empire!!!


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Re: Alien Invasions Re Us [Re: roby000]
    #4399250 - 07/13/05 12:02 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Its what we actually dont hear about.

i was being mighty sarcastic about the publications of it.

anywhoo, america and russia are already in, and have been in the midst of national star wars claims, ever since the 'first man on the moon'.

just because that was what we heard about in the books and on the tele, doesnt mean that that was the first man on the moon.  maybe the first man able to be photographed and written about, from the moon, haha.

we are in the dark of the star wars, and if they made sci-fi movies of it, it might arise too many minds and questions.  sci fi is like a psychedelic, the governement doesnt like it because it leaves room for thought.... :rotfl:


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Re: Alien Invasions Re Us [Re: roby000]
    #4399276 - 07/13/05 12:14 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

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the walmart night stalkers are aliens? and not immigrants? woah. all hail the mighty earh empire!!!




well alien is another word for immigrant, isn't it?


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Re: Alien Invasions Re Us [Re: AbstractHarmonix]
    #4399280 - 07/13/05 12:16 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

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Its what we actually dont hear about.

i was being mighty sarcastic about the publications of it.

anywhoo, america and russia are already in, and have been in the midst of national star wars claims, ever since the 'first man on the moon'.

just because that was what we heard about in the books and on the tele, doesnt mean that that was the first man on the moon.  maybe the first man able to be photographed and written about, from the moon, haha.

we are in the dark of the star wars, and if they made sci-fi movies of it, it might arise too many minds and questions.  sci fi is like a psychedelic, the governement doesnt like it because it leaves room for thought.... :rotfl:




sometimes not thinking is what is best for humans. Most humans are stupid, so thinking can lead them into ingorance ONLY with no exeptions


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Re: Alien Invasions Re Us [Re: AbstractHarmonix]
    #4399282 - 07/13/05 12:17 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

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But why not show what it would be like if the Earth took over other planets? Would we be nice or good to them?




um... Starship Troopers

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or how about if they invade a planet thats made of 75 percent water and then relize they are allergic to water




... War of the Worlds... and Signs

Aliens trying to take us over is a much more common theme but other storylines are out there


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Re: Alien Invasions Re Us [Re: eve69]
    #4399384 - 07/13/05 01:06 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

" I once started a script about a human spacefaring race of Catholic Vikings which go from sentient planet to sentient planet raping, pillaging, destroying, while spreading their religion."

Vikings did not attempt to spread their religion. Wherever they settled they also brought law and civilization...as well as the pillaging and destruction.


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Re: Alien Invasions Re Us [Re: roby000]
    #4399459 - 07/13/05 01:32 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

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the walmart night stalkers are aliens?  and not immigrants?  woah.  all hail the mighty earh empire!!!




Completely baseless! Source?

And its "stockers". All stockers have a background check and drug test, the world's largest corporation certainly isn't going to make themselves hugely liable for severe government penalties for hiring illegal immigrants. That simply is not business sense. :lol:

There was, however, allegations of this nature, stemming from the fact that a cleaning company (or some sort of outside company that did contract work) was employing illegal immigrants. :grin:

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Re: Alien Invasions Re Us [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #4399909 - 07/13/05 03:37 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

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Vikings did not attempt to spread their religion. Wherever they settled they also brought law and civilization...as well as the pillaging and destruction.




Yeah, I'm not down on Vikings. I just liked the berserker mentality of them. Truth is that Vikings are one of the only truely anarchistic societies ever. Which makes them pretty cool. :thumbup:


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Re: Alien Invasions Re Us [Re: eve69]
    #4399934 - 07/13/05 03:43 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

you can have anarchy with wooden boats, goats and horns on your head, but our modern society is so complex that anarchy would destroy all of it.


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Re: Alien Invasions Re Us [Re: eve69]
    #4399955 - 07/13/05 03:48 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

I'm pretty sure that any alien race advanced enough to master interstellar travel wouldn't need anything from us. that's why alien invasion movies have always seemed kinda dumb to me.

From a soace traveller's veiwpoint, Earth is probably the backwoods of the universe. Why would anyone want to come to this shithole? We haven't even figured out how to leave our own solar system yet. That would be like putting a NYC kid in a third world country.


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Re: Alien Invasions Re Us [Re: DoctorJ]
    #4400333 - 07/13/05 05:33 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

"We haven't even figured out how to leave our own solar system yet."
Really? We have already had 3 spacecraft leave the solar system....all of them using 60s and 70s technology. Your appraisal of city people as being superior to rural people is also questionable.


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