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OfflinePlok
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To those of you who haven't done many psychadelics...
    #4392571 - 07/11/05 03:34 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

Here is a friendly word of advice for those of you who haven't done many psychadelics, and/or XTC.

If you have never done a psychadelic, but plan to, you are in for one amazing ride. I am in agreement with Terence McKenna, that if you live your whole life without doing psychadelics, you are truly missing out on one of life's most prized pleasures. I would recommend to almost anyone with a sound mind to try psychadelics, under the right circumstances. However...

DON'T overdo it. The experience will probably be so enjoyable and amazing that you will likely want to repeat it soon after. Resist this temptation. Try not to think of it as a minimum window of time between doses, but rather think of it as a special occasion type thing, and only do psychadelics under ideal circumstances. If you have too much free time and continually feel the pull to dose, then set a minimum timeframe between doses at 3 to 4 weeks. Here's why I recommend this:

When I first tried mushrooms I was BLOWN AWAY by the amazement of it all. After that I started taking them every 1 to 2 weeks and continued to be blown away. However after not very long, the trips grew less and less amazing and I almost "got used" to being high. The hallucinations became less and less vivid, my mind got cloudier, and the trips became more annoying/tiring and less incredible. Although my tolerance to the drug never built much, my PSYCHOLOGICAL tolerance grew enormously. I got "used" to tripping and the incredible clarity and awe of my initial trips faded substantially.

So now it has been a month since my last trip, and I will trip tomorrow at the beach with a great friend. I am hoping that some of the magic will be restored, and if it is not, I will wait more than a month for my next trip. I wish I would have heeded the advice given by many on this board to not trip so often, because the "magic" of psychadelics can definitely be lost or diminished if you dose too often, and that is an enormous shame. I liken it to sex (for men)... if you have three orgasms in a day, the fourth one ain't gonna be so great... if you can have it at all.

This effect is perhaps even more apparent with Ecstasy. I have only done it three times and it hasn't lost its magic for me, but I know that it quickly can, and has for many people. Keep these amazing substances magical, and don't dose too often!

Or do.. and see what happens. Just a friendly word of advice from a fellow psychonaut!


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Re: To those of you who haven't done many psychadelics... [Re: Plok]
    #4392623 - 07/11/05 03:47 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

I think some time away from the mushrooms probably did wonders for your psychological tolerance.  :smile:  Personally, I've gone through a rather psychedelic summer, tripped six times since the start of June.  This is atypical behavior for me.  Usually I trip once a month at MOST, and now regret from deviating from that ritual.  My last trip, I got a very clear message that I need to take a break, to give myself time to integrate and find some clarity.  I probably won't trip again until I feel the "call"...I'm sure people know what I mean by that.  :wink: 

I say that if you've been away from psychedelics for a month and you feel the "call," you're in for a treat.  If you don't feel led back to psychedelics, don't feel their call tugging at your heart, it might be best to give your mind some more time to "forget" the magic, so when you do return it will be marvelous.  I know that's what I do.  :sun:

Good luck, and safe journeys.  :heart:


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Re: To those of you who haven't done many psychadelics... [Re: MOTH]
    #4392701 - 07/11/05 04:11 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

Thanks for the advice and i hope you have a great time tomorrow. Good luck


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Re: To those of you who haven't done many psychadelics... [Re: MOTH]
    #4392704 - 07/11/05 04:12 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

Oh man, I feel the call...feel the tugging. I haven't gotten off since 2 or 3 weeks before I sent the money order to get my first syringe.

But now my work is paying off, and I have tons of pins, and I feel like it will be well worth the wait.

This one is going to be great. It's been about 7 weeks since my last experience, which was also my best. You think because I raised these shrooms from spore to fruit that this trip will be a little extra special? Kinda like how a plant knows who takes care of it...even though these aren't plants...


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Re: To those of you who haven't done many psychadelics... [Re: LazyCrash]
    #4392715 - 07/11/05 04:15 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

LazyCrash said:
You think because I raised these shrooms from spore to fruit that this trip will be a little extra special?




I think so...you put positive energy into them, you tended them from the time when they were mere spores until they blossomed into flesh of the gods. 

When I eat and trip off my own shrooms, it's a very intimate experience because I had a hand in their development, like a parent.  :heart:


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Re: To those of you who haven't done many psychadelics... [Re: MOTH]
    #4392724 - 07/11/05 04:18 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

Makes me want to eat my kids...  :wink:

if I had any


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Re: To those of you who haven't done many psychadelics... [Re: Plok]
    #4392728 - 07/11/05 04:20 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

Plok said:
Makes me want to eat my kids...  :wink:

if I had any



Hahaha Yeah, I dont know how your "kids" would appreciate their caregiver eating them, but I can understand a special connection while tripping on on your own shrooms...


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Re: To those of you who haven't done many psychadelics... [Re: Yenpop]
    #4393035 - 07/11/05 05:37 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

Man, all this talk about how awesome it is to grow ones own shrooms makes me wish that it were legal to ship spores to California.

Maybe someday...


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Re: To those of you who haven't done many psychadelics... [Re: Plok]
    #4393103 - 07/11/05 06:05 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

Plok said:
Here is a friendly word of advice for those of you who haven't done many psychadelics, and/or XTC.

If you have never done a psychadelic, but plan to, you are in for one amazing ride.  I am in agreement with Terence McKenna, that if you live your whole life without doing psychadelics, you are truly missing out on one of life's most prized pleasures.  I would recommend to almost anyone with a sound mind to try psychadelics, under the right circumstances.  However...

DON'T overdo it.  The experience will probably be so enjoyable and amazing that you will likely want to repeat it soon after.  Resist this temptation.  Try not to think of it as a minimum window of time between doses, but rather think of it as a special occasion type thing, and only do psychadelics under ideal circumstances.  If you have too much free time and continually feel the pull to dose, then set a minimum timeframe between doses at 3 to 4 weeks.  Here's why I recommend this:

When I first tried mushrooms I was BLOWN AWAY by the amazement of it all.  After that I started taking them every 1 to 2 weeks and continued to be blown away.  However after not very long, the trips grew less and less amazing and I almost "got used" to being high.  The hallucinations became less and less vivid, my mind got cloudier, and the trips became more annoying/tiring and less incredible.  Although my tolerance to the drug never built much, my PSYCHOLOGICAL tolerance grew enormously.  I got "used" to tripping and the incredible clarity and awe of my initial trips faded substantially.

So now it has been a month since my last trip, and I will trip tomorrow at the beach with a great friend.  I am hoping that some of the magic will be restored, and if it is not, I will wait more than a month for my next trip.  I wish I would have heeded the advice given by many on this board to not trip so often, because the "magic" of psychadelics can definitely be lost or diminished if you dose too often, and that is an enormous shame.  I liken it to sex (for men)... if you have three orgasms in a day, the fourth one ain't gonna be so great... if you can have it at all.

This effect is perhaps even more apparent with Ecstasy.  I have only done it three times and it hasn't lost its magic for me, but I know that it quickly can, and has for many people.  Keep these amazing substances magical, and don't dose too often!

Or do.. and see what happens.  Just a friendly word of advice from a fellow psychonaut!




sticky! :thumbup:

i would add not trying to be a hero and doing a big dose. pride comes before an ASS KICKING. you'll develop a much better relationship with psychedelics if you respect them and increase doses gradually.


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Re: To those of you who haven't done many psychadelics... [Re: alsey]
    #4393666 - 07/11/05 09:39 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

My first experience with shrooms was 5 weeks ago today. I've done them every week up until now. I am undecided if I am going to do them this week or not.

Everytime I tripped it was wonderful because I was in different enviroments. Last monday was the best trip because I went to a rock bar in Atlanta and had a blast playing pool and hanging out. I was having OEV's, CEV's and an awesome body buzz. I agree with your point totally, but at the same time for me the magic hasn't died or grown weak. In fact it has gotten better. I only got 9 grams left and once I run out I'll be out for a couple of months.


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Re: To those of you who haven't done many psychadelics... [Re: Pirate_Patrick]
    #4393699 - 07/11/05 09:49 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

I did the same for a while...months and months...lots of trips...then you need a break...then you trip again, and its all good again. Tripping tells you when its time to stop..


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Re: To those of you who haven't done many psychadelics... [Re: scatmanrav]
    #4398882 - 07/13/05 07:30 AM (11 years, 4 months ago)

Raiden333,

Since you can't receive spores in California from Spore Companies, have a friend or someone on here that you know have them sent to their place, and then send them to you. I'm sure you can find someone that would do that.


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Re: To those of you who haven't done many psychadelics... [Re: matchbook]
    #4405835 - 07/14/05 11:29 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

Jeez! This post really makes me want to try shrooms. The more I read the more I want to try it. There are just too many good stories about first experiences that convince me that shrooms should be my first psychedelic.


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