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LAPD murders baby girl...
    #4392052 - 07/11/05 12:42 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

they just got "sick and tired of games"...

http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/07/11/la.shootout.ap/index.html

EDIT ..these pricks were quite obviously trying to make a point.. is it sometimes necessary to make such sacrifices in order to deter future criminal acts?...


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Edited by Annapurna1 (07/11/05 12:47 PM)


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Re: LAPD murders baby girl... [Re: Annapurna1]
    #4392063 - 07/11/05 12:50 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

I think most police are on a power trip too but what did you expect them to do, shower him with daisy flowers?

Quote:

There were three exchanges of gunfire between police and Lemos, who was about 35, McDonnell told reporters. In the final exchange, at around 6:20 p.m., Lemos held the girl as he shot.




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Police called in a SWAT team and tried to speak with the man; when they at one point attempted to help a neighbor escape the area, he fired at them and they fired back, McDonnell said.




It's an unfortunate incident .. maybe if they had the VMADS they could have saved the baby.


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Re: LAPD murders baby girl... [Re: Annapurna1]
    #4392080 - 07/11/05 12:55 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

<<The man had a 9 mm handgun and a shotgun and was intoxicated on drugs and alcohol, police said.>>

The man had a 9 mm handgun and a shotgun and was intoxicated on drugs, including alcohol, police said.


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Re: LAPD murders baby girl... [Re: cb9fl]
    #4392131 - 07/11/05 01:16 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

they could have saved the baby..and caught the suspect..had they not been so impatient...they prolly had shields and body armour too...but the point is the social issues that go into police rules-of-engagement policies..which in turn lead to a decision to kill a baby...no doubt some will argue that todays' action sends a strong message to would-be criminals that kidnapping doesnt work..and that more innocent lives may be saved as a result...it is quite plausible (although i dont know for sure) that the rules-of-engagement center around such a deterrence paradigm...

and like the rest of us..police officers are also being continuosly bombarded with the same "we dont negotiate with terrorists" bullshit from the media...and it is very foolish to think that police officers that keep hearing this wont at some point apply it..intentionally or otherwise..in a hostage situation...


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Re: LAPD murders baby girl... [Re: Annapurna1]
    #4392147 - 07/11/05 01:23 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

If you want to blame someone for this tragedy, blame the drunk dumb ass who used his baby as a shield.


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Re: LAPD murders baby girl... [Re: Annapurna1]
    #4392158 - 07/11/05 01:29 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

The baby wasnt white so it was a good one to kill to set an example.


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Re: LAPD murders baby girl... [Re: Vex]
    #4392170 - 07/11/05 01:34 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

Police don't kill babies, their drunken fathers who use them as shields do!

That's my new catch-phrase.


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Re: LAPD murders baby girl... [Re: Vex]
    #4392194 - 07/11/05 01:40 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

Bush ordered the killing.


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Re: LAPD murders baby girl... [Re: Vex]
    #4392199 - 07/11/05 01:42 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

Vex said:
If you want to blame someone for this tragedy, blame the drunk dumb ass who used his baby as a shield.




and i suppose mohammed atta was to blame for the war in iraq too...

i dont doubt the drunk dumbasses' role in this for one minute...but the bottom line is still that the LAPD made the final decision to kill the baby..and apparently more arbitrarily than not...for example..they could have used a professional sniper instead of firing 300 rounds...


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Re: LAPD murders baby girl... [Re: Annapurna1]
    #4392210 - 07/11/05 01:46 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

> they could have saved the baby..and caught the suspect..had they not been so impatient...

He had already shot one cop... how much more patient should they be... wait until a few cops are dead?

They should have had a swat sniper ready to take a CNS shot rather than what happened, but I have a hard time blaming the cops for using excessive force in this case after one of their own has been shot.

> for example..they could have used a professional sniper instead of firing 300 rounds...

Exactly. We agree on this, at least... though a CNS shot is very difficult.


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Re: LAPD murders baby girl... [Re: Annapurna1]
    #4393551 - 07/11/05 09:02 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

they could have saved the baby..and caught the suspect



I didn't realize you were there. Thanks for the heads up.


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Re: LAPD murders baby girl... [Re: Annapurna1]
    #4393557 - 07/11/05 09:04 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

LOS ANGELES, California (AP) -- A toddler was shot and killed when her father used her as a shield in a gunbattle with police following an hours-long standoff, officials said. The man also died and an officer was wounded.



The guy was using her as a shield and he was shooting at cops! Sorry she died, but it's not the cops fault.


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Re: LAPD murders baby girl... [Re: phreedom420]
    #4393571 - 07/11/05 09:08 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

so one of their trained killers sustains minor injuries..and that makes a baby fair game...they were waiting for an excuse to show off their power and they didnt hesitate when they got it...


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Re: LAPD murders baby girl... [Re: Annapurna1]
    #4393588 - 07/11/05 09:13 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

Some drugged drunk guy is standing on a street corner waving a gun around and acting erraticly. How exactly would you deal with this situation? How many cops would you say could have been shot and killed before it would have been acceptable for them to open fire and kill the girl?


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Re: LAPD murders baby girl... [Re: 1stimer]
    #4393605 - 07/11/05 09:18 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

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1stimer said:
Bush ordered the killing.




obviously meant to be sarcastic..but not entirely untrue either...bush may not have ordered the killing...but his speeches have created a bad attitude nonetheless..which inevitably weighs on decisions like this...


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Edited by Annapurna1 (07/11/05 09:26 PM)


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Re: LAPD murders baby girl... [Re: phreedom420]
    #4393621 - 07/11/05 09:25 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

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phreedom420 said:
Some drugged drunk guy is standing on a street corner waving a gun around and acting erraticly. How exactly would you deal with this situation? How many cops would you say could have been shot and killed before it would have been acceptable for them to open fire and kill the girl?




you might not want to be the cop that has to risk death in order to get close enough for a clean shot at the suspect to save the baby..but unfortunately..your duty as an LEO is to protect the innocent..and not to protect the innocent when it is convenient to do so...


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Re: LAPD murders baby girl... [Re: Annapurna1]
    #4393628 - 07/11/05 09:27 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

i'm sure the policemen that did it lost a week of sleep, while the mother's life is forever changed. the police must have got bored and decided getting careless would be excusable.


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Re: LAPD murders baby girl... [Re: Annapurna1]
    #4393651 - 07/11/05 09:35 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

Anyone who thinks that cops would deliberately kill this child is totally disconnected from reality.


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Re: LAPD murders baby girl... [Re: Prosgeopax]
    #4393673 - 07/11/05 09:42 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

duh...they did make the decision to open fire...they might not have had any malicious..willful intent to kill the child as such..but the mere fact that they made that decision means that they didnt care anymore...


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Re: LAPD murders baby girl... [Re: Annapurna1]
    #4393698 - 07/11/05 09:48 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

They were being fired upon. From what is said in the article other civilians were in danger. You don't know anything about the situation except from that brief article. Was the author there? Were you there? Have you ever been fired upon? It's easy to be an armchair quarterback after reading an article written by someone who came there after the fact.


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