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Offlineskaos
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Incubator (internal jar) temperature
    #4391688 - 07/11/05 09:33 AM (12 years, 14 days ago)

I have a small TiT incubator wich is kept at a constant 83. Since the mycelium is living it generate heat i want to know how much heat ? i mean if the internal jar temperature is 5 degres higher, then my optimal temperature isnt reached (83 + 5 = 88 > 86).

Ive read a lot and everybody is saying 'few degres' noting more specific. I know i could put a termometer in the center of the jar but i dont want to expose it to contams.

Maybe im just worrying too much....

Whats the temp. of YOUR incubator ??? Whats the best temp to keep the incubator knowiong the myc is few degres hotter.....




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Re: Incubator (internal jar) temperature [Re: skaos]
    #4391739 - 07/11/05 10:07 AM (12 years, 14 days ago)

I think 83F is just perfect.  Mine runs between 83 and 86 depending on if my window is open and whatnot... I don't think you have anything to worry about :smile:


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Re: Incubator (internal jar) temperature [Re: skaos]
    #4391748 - 07/11/05 10:11 AM (12 years, 14 days ago)

I keep my TiT at 85 (my temp fluctuates 1 deg. up and down) while incubating around 2 dozen pints of spawn at a time. The internal temp of the jars is negligable just dont go above 86 and they will be optimal.

Incubating temps will only become a problem when doing 5+ pounds of bulk subs, they do generate alot of heat in the center of the sub.

Though if you want to, if you have a digital thermometer with the external wire to measure outside temps. You could set that under the bottom of a jar on the bottom of your tub. That would be the hottest spot inside or on any of the jars in your jars.

sorry I tend to ramble....

What are you incubating?...and how many inside what size tub...
Unless its 50+ jars, I doubt you have anything to worry about...

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Re: Incubator (internal jar) temperature [Re: ultralight]
    #4391789 - 07/11/05 10:37 AM (12 years, 14 days ago)

I have a 2 input termometers, 1 for outside ( i use it to check fruiting chamber in summer cuz it gets prerry hot sometime) and the other one for the TiT. The fish pad heater is sensor is pretty accurate i set it for 86 and the water is 86. (few degres less in the chamber)

Right now my TiT is a 10 Gal. with 16 BRF pint jars, 6 quart of WBS and few babybottle for LC (3x4% matl extract 2x4% Karo).

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Re: Incubator (internal jar) temperature [Re: skaos]
    #4391831 - 07/11/05 11:08 AM (12 years, 14 days ago)

Usually, a jar will only generate 1-3 degrees of heat. 82-84 seems to be pretty damn good..if you are worried try an drop it a degree or two..a degree or two to cold is better then the same to hot, IME.


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Re: Incubator (internal jar) temperature [Re: scatmanrav]
    #4391838 - 07/11/05 11:13 AM (12 years, 14 days ago)

Are you sure about the number you gave ? (1-3 degree hotter in jars)
I agree with you, few degres lower is better that few degress higher

Thanks for all the info guys!

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Re: Incubator (internal jar) temperature [Re: skaos]
    #4391857 - 07/11/05 11:24 AM (12 years, 14 days ago)

No, I'm not 100% sure, variables can change things and there may be spikes as high as 5 degrees, especially at different points in the cycle (maybe as nearing completion). However I am probably more sure then whoever said 5 degrees to you, chances are the person gave a high number because its better to err on the side of caution. Maybe big bags of grain or 1/2 gallon jars would heat up more, but if your talking quarts...82-84 degrees is no problem incubating..



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"life is like a drop of rain getting closer and closer to falling into a lake, and then when you hit the lake there is no more rain drop, only the lake."

Growing with bags, start to finish (including my new grain and substrate prep)
Anyone looking to start bulk tubs/mono tubs/shotgun hybrids? Good tubs to use..
How I do grain (old still good tips)
Turn your closet into a fruiting chamber
Casing layer colonization and overlay


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Re: Incubator (internal jar) temperature [Re: skaos]
    #4391991 - 07/11/05 12:22 PM (12 years, 14 days ago)

Quote:

skaos said:

Are you sure about the number you gave ? (1-3 degree hotter in jars)





Yes the temp inside the jars is a few degrees warmer than the inside of the incubator.

I keep my incubator at 81 degrees F.


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Re: Incubator (internal jar) temperature [Re: Roadkill]
    #4402356 - 07/14/05 04:28 AM (12 years, 11 days ago)

At what temperature are the jars considered screwed? I just had an accident where the heater fucked up and it was 104 degrees in the closet! HELP PLEASE!


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Re: Incubator (internal jar) temperature [Re: hollisterboyb]
    #4402602 - 07/14/05 08:56 AM (12 years, 11 days ago)

Theyre definatly probably screwed...if the tub gets to 120 for a few hours...if they get over 86 for a few hours they're at risk...just watch them, if they make it your fine...


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Anyone looking to start bulk tubs/mono tubs/shotgun hybrids? Good tubs to use..
How I do grain (old still good tips)
Turn your closet into a fruiting chamber
Casing layer colonization and overlay


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Re: Incubator (internal jar) temperature [Re: scatmanrav]
    #4402818 - 07/14/05 11:09 AM (12 years, 11 days ago)

nothing over 88 deg for incuabting optimum between around 82 cuz the jars are about 3 deg hotter inside then in the TiT.

Its more about constitent temps from my experience. Myc gets confused when you drop or raise the temp. i actually put the cakes in the TiT and forget about em, the more i open and look in the TiT the more chace i can introduce contams, as well as flux the temp of the jars. I noticed for a while i started to get slowed grow, think that the CO2 levels were suffocating them.

so i cut two hoels in the top of the TiT, and attached garden hoses to them about 2 foot length.






never had a problem since, my TiT stay at 82 deg constant though the entire colonization period. this last batch took about 14 days to colonize 1/2 pint jars i was amazed. i open up the TiT once a week, to check for contams, i try to minimize my light in that room, and i rotate the jars on top to bottom and vice versuses. i do notice a drop in colonization time after that so i minimize doing to once a week for 1/2pt and one every 2 weeks for 1pt.


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Re: Incubator (internal jar) temperature [Re: thegaruda]
    #4403397 - 07/14/05 02:00 PM (12 years, 11 days ago)

What do I watch for to know if they are going to make it? Do I just see if the white spreads more? Thanks guys for all of your help!


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Re: Incubator (internal jar) temperature [Re: hollisterboyb]
    #4403420 - 07/14/05 02:06 PM (12 years, 11 days ago)

i dont fully know what you mean by if they make it??

i just look to see how much they spread, you can use a sharpy and make some tick marks and maybe the date next to em on teh jar for refrence if you got alot of em.

from my experience it takes a few days for the inoculate to set in, i think this is the most crucial time to the process. i try not to distrub the process and let the fungi do its thing. after the colonies start up, they shyt grows like crazy, depending on your strain, i noticed that my ecudor strain grew faster the nmy b+ but only by a few days.

the first time doing it i f'd up and took the tin foil off, btu i didn't notice a difference with contams. I leave the tin foil on now, but i dont think it makes too much of a diff if you have a clean incubator and sporay down the room with disinfectant before you open the incubator

the first time around i was anxious to look at there progress, so i would check emn out twice a day, mistake. i know its hard but be patient and dont distrube them, think about a huge field of mushies growing in a cave, or something. not alot of distrubance, cept for bat pop casing the ground :-P


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