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OfflinePlok
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Salvia myth?
    #4390682 - 07/10/05 07:51 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

I see everywhere that you should hold in the Salvia for as long as possible when you take a rip. But it seems like it would be a lot more effective if you took 3 big rips in 30 seconds rather than one and holding it in. I find that when the Salvia really starts kicking in, I don't even know what the pipe is, and definitely can't take another hit. Wouldn't smoking in quick succession be more effective than holding hits for as long as possible?


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Re: Salvia myth? [Re: Plok]
    #4390747 - 07/10/05 08:11 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

For many people, with extract, one good rip is all that's needed.

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Re: Salvia myth? [Re: Plok]
    #4390776 - 07/10/05 08:26 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

Perhaps by holding the smoke you end up exposing more of the very permeable surface area in the more remote areas of the lungs? Just guessing here mind you.


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Re: Salvia myth? [Re: PsychoChipmunk]
    #4390803 - 07/10/05 08:41 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

it takes a good 30 sec or so for the salvinorin to absorb into your blood/whatever....

so if you took 3 samall hits,it wouldn't get in your system,thus not doing much of anything......

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Re: Salvia myth? [Re: Plok]
    #4390934 - 07/10/05 09:45 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

I know it's important to hold the hits, but I'm not entirely clear as to why. Psychochipmunk could be right. It's not a myth though...try to take as many big hits as you can before you forget what the hell everything is (that is, assuming you want to be skyrocketed out of the world...otherwise just titrate accordingly :smile: )


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Re: Salvia myth? [Re: dblaney]
    #4391200 - 07/10/05 11:53 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

nah i would hold it in cause its kind of like smoking opium i used to smoke it like pot and only get a buzz like feeling that lasts for like 30 minutes. But then i held it in cause i was bein stupid and i got soooo fucked up it was amazing.


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Re: Salvia myth? [Re: lkfity315]
    #4391546 - 07/11/05 05:08 AM (18 years, 8 months ago)

hold it in
all the smoke can be absorbed.
breathe out next to nothing useful.
get good effects &
waste less material.


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Re: Salvia myth? [Re: redgreenvines]
    #4393530 - 07/11/05 06:55 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

A lot of people have a pretty big window, something like two minutes for the few people I know who actually do it a lot.

So you can easily get 3-4 big held-in hits and get blasted.

I guess you'd have to increase your tolerance if you can't use a pipe after one hit, though.


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Re: Salvia myth? [Re: LazyCrash]
    #4393626 - 07/11/05 07:27 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

You got to hold it in to not waste it...the whole 30 seconds your absorbing salvornium still, so taking in more isnt gonna give you more chemical, you just breathed a bunch out. Sure it works if you dont...but your just wasting leaf. You only need a hit or two...three can be had even since you hold in the first 2 for 30 seconds, take the 3rd after a minute of your first inhale then sit back and hold it in..it'll be kicking in while you hold in the 3rd and keep going..


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Re: Salvia myth? [Re: scatmanrav]
    #4394019 - 07/11/05 09:38 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

for me i just need one nice solid rip ..hold it and omg im gone. just practice it a few times and youll get what i mean

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Re: Salvia myth? [Re: lkfity315]
    #4394058 - 07/11/05 09:52 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

lkfity315-

Glad to see a fellow South Carolinian on the board!


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Re: Salvia myth? [Re: PsychoChipmunk]
    #4394082 - 07/11/05 10:01 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

PsychoChipmunk said:
lkfity315-

Glad to see a fellow South Carolinian on the board!




Yep it is  :thumbup: :thumbup:.

Back on topic, It takes a good 2 minutes befor lady salvia starts to talk.  Like others said the active chemical takes 30 secs before it is all absorbed.


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Re: Salvia myth? [Re: Stonerguy]
    #4394469 - 07/12/05 12:16 AM (18 years, 8 months ago)

dude thats awsome 3 people from south carolina pretty cool. its off topic but can any of you get lsd its hard as shit for me {im not asking this so i can get some just wondering to see if it even makes it to south carolina and not where i live but i seem to never be able to find any


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Re: Salvia myth? [Re: lkfity315]
    #4395437 - 07/12/05 10:24 AM (18 years, 8 months ago)

I've tried Salvia twice. Both times using a water bong. The first time (sunday) I did one LARGE bowl/hit, and held it in for as long as I could, and got dominated my salvia; it was fantastic. The second time (monday) I took 3 smaller hits, trying to hold them in each for a relatively long time. This method I could unsuccesfull. I could feel the salvia trying to take over, but I suppose there just wasn't enough salvinorum A in my blood, due most likely to improper smoking. I would like to also note that my first time I did a larger amount then the 2nd time (but not by much), so that may also have something to do with it, but I really think it's more in the technique. Hope this helps.

P.S. One last thing. The first time I used hot water in the bong, as I had read that salvinorin A needs to be at a very high temperature to be active, and I didn't want the water to cool down the smoke. I forgot to use this temperature water the 2nd try as well, and I think this may make more of a difference then I (or other people) think.

Edited by chaosego (07/12/05 10:25 AM)

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