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Offlinevisionary
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Its killing me!!!
    #4389371 - 07/10/05 11:03 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

I am tired of researching and piecing together fragmented information. So I am going to ask a slew of questions. PLEASE ANSWER all you great and powerful shroomologists out there.

My story: I want to plant an outdoor garden with a bulk substrate, inoculated with an LC. This will be my second grow. My first was the PF tek and I was thoroughly dissatisfied. Also I have 8 cc of B+ left in a sterile syringe. Also I have no pressure cooker, only a stove, oven and microwave.

I can get my hands on grade A horse poo, but I am not sure if it is the best or easiest to deal with. Suggestions?

I have light and dark Karo corn syrup in my pantry, but no regular (i am not buying more), which one should I use?

In terms of substrates, I would like to have one with a fast inoculation time.

If any of you shroomologists could just paste in some effective guides for me, I would be greatly appreciative.


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Edited by visionary (07/10/05 11:06 AM)


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Re: Its killing me!!! [Re: visionary]
    #4389394 - 07/10/05 11:24 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

here this has all the answers to your questions..

http://www.shroomery.org/index/par/3
and if that one dont answer your questions try
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/search.php?Cat=0

those are some of the basic questions and tecs you havent read much ...


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Re: Its killing me!!! [Re: willmafingerdo]
    #4389404 - 07/10/05 11:29 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

thank you from the bottom of my lazy heart (yours is cold).


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Re: Its killing me!!! [Re: visionary]
    #4389464 - 07/10/05 12:12 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

I'll use this for the poo
http://www.shroomery.org/index/par/26911

this for the LC
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat...e3fd607ec9b0ece

OR

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat...e3fd607ec9b0ece

My only true question after this is...Should I put the horse poo/compost in jars or big cakes or what when inoculating (couldn't figure that one out.


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Re: Its killing me!!! [Re: visionary]
    #4389552 - 07/10/05 01:11 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

LAZY is right. I love when people say that they have searched and found no info. You have to be a little persistent when searching.


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Re: Its killing me!!! [Re: azurescens]
    #4389588 - 07/10/05 01:30 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

I can get my hands on grade A horse poo, but I am not sure if it is the best or easiest to deal with. Suggestions?

It is great. Use the link you put up.

I have light and dark Karo corn syrup in my pantry, but no regular (i am not buying more), which one should I use?

Light.

In terms of substrates, I would like to have one with a fast inoculation time.

You need to first use a spawn, that means PF cakes, rye, or WBS. You CAN NOT just shoot spores into the poo, and your probably wouldnt have the best success just shooting LC into the poo. It can be done, but I doubt it could by someone to lazy to do a hell of a lot of reading and trying first.

>Should I put the horse poo/compost in jars or big cakes or what when inoculating (couldn't figure that one out.

When you inoculate it, you must use SPAWN. Spawn=fully colonized jars of some sort, be it PF Tek, or whole grains. Whole grains work the best, and are fastest, but then you NEED a PC. After you pastuerize the poo, you break up FULLY COLONIZED jars of spawn into the poo. You can either do it in the bag that you pasteurize the poo in (from the tek you posted, see its in a bag, not jars) or you can dump it into a tub, dump the spawn in, break it all up and mix it up..then let that FULLY colonize (keep covered with foil or saran wrap with holes in it) then you can case and fruit it, or put it outdoors..


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Re: Its killing me!!! [Re: scatmanrav]
    #4390081 - 07/10/05 05:41 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Ok scatman, that helps a lot. Along with being lazy, I am also cheap. So no PC for me. I have however a rather old pot with a heavy lid, that keeps in a lot of steam. I don't want to buy a PC, because I will only use it once.

I decided to use the malt tek instead of the Karo. So thats been done.

Also you said that I can put LC on the poo. Youd didn't go on from there...


Edited by visionary (07/10/05 05:43 PM)


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Re: Its killing me!!! [Re: scatmanrav]
    #4390108 - 07/10/05 05:54 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

scatmanrav said:
You need to first use a spawn, that means PF cakes, rye, or WBS. You CAN NOT just shoot spores into the poo, and your probably wouldnt have the best success just shooting LC into the poo. It can be done, but I doubt it could by someone to lazy to do a hell of a lot of reading and trying first.

>Should I put the horse poo/compost in jars or big cakes or what when inoculating (couldn't figure that one out.

When you inoculate it, you must use SPAWN. Spawn=fully colonized jars of some sort, be it PF Tek, or whole grains. Whole grains work the best, and are fastest, but then you NEED a PC. After you pastuerize the poo, you break up FULLY COLONIZED jars of spawn into the poo. You can either do it in the bag that you pasteurize the poo in (from the tek you posted, see its in a bag, not jars) or you can dump it into a tub, dump the spawn in, break it all up and mix it up..then let that FULLY colonize (keep covered with foil or saran wrap with holes in it) then you can case and fruit it, or put it outdoors..




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Re: Its killing me!!! [Re: metasin]
    #4390227 - 07/10/05 06:53 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

come on, that can't be the only way? I did all my BRF in a regular pot and none of them recieved the almighty contams. Not a single one. I don't know, I just don't wanna splurge on a device for a single use.


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Re: Its killing me!!! [Re: visionary]
    #4393566 - 07/11/05 09:06 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

If you can sucessfully make cakes that colonize, use them for spawn.


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Re: Its killing me!!! [Re: phreedom420]
    #4394194 - 07/12/05 01:06 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie...N%3AIT&rd=1

my pressure cooker (forgot to paste in the link)

also if i am going to be putting this much effort into this project, then I am going to get new spores (B+ grows slow and makes me feel really odd, more odd than other trips). So I think I will go with Ecuador or Pink buffalo spores. I live in a hot and humid climate on the coast. it gets to be about 85-100 F and real humid

...by the way, this thread has lasted far longer than i thought it would


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Edited by visionary (07/12/05 01:11 AM)


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Re: Its killing me!!! [Re: visionary]
    #4394320 - 07/12/05 01:41 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

**Thread Closed**

Reason: Lasting Far too Long


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Re: Its killing me!!! [Re: BenKenobi]
    #4394642 - 07/12/05 03:01 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Wow.

It's called reading. Top to bottom. Left to right. :smirk:

Good luck.

I'd listen to scatman, he's giving you great sound advice.

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Re: Its killing me!!! [Re: IGnosticAbhorI]
    #4399785 - 07/13/05 03:00 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

try the pb's. i can't say enough good things about them. fast growers and powerful trip.


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