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OfflinePhoenix99
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only rye
    #4389182 - 07/10/05 08:10 AM (11 years, 5 months ago)

Is it so bad to use simple rye flour? I mean white rye flour.
I've never seen brown rye where I live and I don't know if I can get perlite or vermiculite eighter. Wouldn't rye flour be enough? And for casing what do you reccomend?  :mushroom2: :mushroom2: :mushroom2: :mushroom2: :mushroom2: :mushroom2: :mushroom2: :mushroom2: :mushroom2: :mushroom2: :mushroom2: :mushroom2: :mushroom2: :mushroom2: :mushroom2: :mushroom2: :mushroom2: :mushroom2: :mushroom2: :mushroom2: :mushroom2: :mushroom2: :mushroom2: :mushroom2: :mushroom2: :mushroom2: :mushroom2: :mushroom2:


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Re: only rye [Re: Phoenix99]
    #4389196 - 07/10/05 08:27 AM (11 years, 5 months ago)

Well it sounds like u cant get anything where u live so maybe some dirt from outside is the only option u gunna have for a casing :laugh:

I dont think u will have great results with just flour to make cakes, wont be very airy...


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Re: only rye [Re: BenKenobi]
    #4389237 - 07/10/05 08:58 AM (11 years, 5 months ago)

you can't make cakes with just flower. Walmart, agway or any garden store carries vermiculite its virtually everywhere. If you can't buy it order it online, it's light and essential to doing the PF tek. You can't do the PF tek without vermiculite, it holds all the water/maintains the structure of your cakes. One thing you learn after countless failures (trust me I have lots of experience with those!) Is that you should do it right the first time and save yourself the trouble of being dissapointed/throwing it away when it doesn't work.


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Re: only rye [Re: lemunhed]
    #4389245 - 07/10/05 09:04 AM (11 years, 5 months ago)

Ok, then maybe I'll order it online. And is normal rye flour good? I was just curious what PF stands for?


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Re: only rye [Re: Phoenix99]
    #4389534 - 07/10/05 01:00 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

professor fanaticus, the one who created the cake (a grain flour and verm=a cake). You need the verm though, you want a fluffy airey substrate, not wet mush that would be grain powder.

Verm is very cheap to do online too and not heavy so not much to ship.


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Re: only rye [Re: scatmanrav]
    #4389667 - 07/10/05 02:11 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

Ok then, I'll order some online? And what do you say? Any grain flour? That's just great. I can use any kind of flour except brown rice (not rye, my bad). I thought about white rice or corn wheat.
I'll inoculate 2 jars and with another 4cc I'm gonna grow some mycelium to inoculate more ars with. I'll have 4cc left in case something goes wrong. I'm gonna grow the mycelium in water with dextrose.


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Re: only rye [Re: Phoenix99]
    #4391039 - 07/11/05 12:32 AM (11 years, 4 months ago)

No, sorry, not any...brown rice or rye is good, white rice isnt...many others arent as well.


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Re: only rye [Re: scatmanrav]
    #4391097 - 07/11/05 01:01 AM (11 years, 4 months ago)

There is no vermiculite at the walmarts or any gardening stores aroudn here either... i just had to look harder, my suggestion is to just order online you can find a site through the shroomerys sponsers that sells verm, perlite, brf, rye flour im sure you can find all of that from one site...

white rice sucks... dont use it, i read somewhere it can be used i tried it and it sucked! colonized soo damn slow, flushes wernt big and tons of aborts!

curious why cant you use brf?

you do need verm, because of an airy cake


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Re: only rye [Re: Impulse101]
    #4391337 - 07/11/05 03:05 AM (11 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

white rice sucks... dont use it, i read somewhere it can be used i tried it and it sucked! colonized soo damn slow, flushes wernt big and tons of aborts!




Um.....It colonizes it great and fruits beautifully...It just doesn't produce very much - Chemicals.

Penlight's already proved that....:rolleyes:

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Re: only rye [Re: IGnosticAbhorI]
    #4392330 - 07/11/05 02:27 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

i stand corrected, i used it once and results where terrible but maby i messed up somwhere... does it colonize fast? im lookin for somthing that will colonize fast i am not worried about a great amount (small user) is it contam prone? or good against contams?


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Re: only rye [Re: Impulse101]
    #4392341 - 07/11/05 02:31 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

Yes it colonizes fast but you didnt read what he said very well. White rice will produce mushrooms, lots of them, and quickly...but they'll have almost NO potency to them. Potency is determined by substrate, use one with no nutes and you can still get shrooms easily, but you could eat 2-3 times what you normally do and feel almost nothing. Use brown rice, rye, millet, or WBS.


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Anyone looking to start bulk tubs/mono tubs/shotgun hybrids? Good tubs to use..
How I do grain (old still good tips)
Turn your closet into a fruiting chamber
Casing layer colonization and overlay


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Re: only rye [Re: scatmanrav]
    #4392366 - 07/11/05 02:39 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

scatmanrav, Phoenix99: Just a lil' precision. PF stand for Psylocybe Fanaticus (notice the typo) not Professor Fanaticus as you said altough he community is used to call him Professor Fanaticus.

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Re: only rye [Re: skaos]
    #4392375 - 07/11/05 02:40 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

LOL...semantics.


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Anyone looking to start bulk tubs/mono tubs/shotgun hybrids? Good tubs to use..
How I do grain (old still good tips)
Turn your closet into a fruiting chamber
Casing layer colonization and overlay


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Re: only rye [Re: scatmanrav]
    #4392377 - 07/11/05 02:41 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

Thanks people!

I will to use rye and millet as a substrate and will probably throw some corn in and put dextrose in the water.


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Re: only rye [Re: Phoenix99]
    #4392402 - 07/11/05 02:50 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

I wouldnt add corn, not a great substrate..even if you mean popcorn...dextrose maybe..but when new to growing, if you are, its best to KISS, keep it as simple as you can and dont stray to much from teks that work. Rye/millet is basic, I dont think I'd go putting more sugars in though, you can add to much and screw something up or not sterilize well enough...more doesnt always equal better. Just like people, mushrooms need a nice balance of nutrients and to much sugar is no good.


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Growing with bags, start to finish (including my new grain and substrate prep)
Anyone looking to start bulk tubs/mono tubs/shotgun hybrids? Good tubs to use..
How I do grain (old still good tips)
Turn your closet into a fruiting chamber
Casing layer colonization and overlay


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