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Blair Knew!
    #4381331 - 07/07/05 09:53 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

If Bush Deliberately Allowed 9-11, Did Blair Allow 7-7?

Just curious.

After all, he's not politically popular. Maybe, like Chimphitler McHalliburton, he decided he'd goose his popularity ratings by allowing a terrorist attack on the homeland.

Because, you know, there's no way you could reap similar political benefits by foiling an attempted mass-slaughter.

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Re: Blair Knew! [Re: Phred]
    #4381479 - 07/07/05 10:29 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

Bush Knew...Blair Didn't.


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Re: Blair Knew! [Re: Rono]
    #4381512 - 07/07/05 10:34 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

Don't be naive. The timing is just too convenient. Blair was outside London at the time, so no danger to himself. How hard would it be to arrange a little distraction from the media reports of the police brutality against protesters at the G8 conference?


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Re: Blair Knew! [Re: Phred]
    #4381524 - 07/07/05 10:38 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

That's just crazy talk...

Bush knew, Blair didn't.


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Re: Blair Knew! [Re: Rono]
    #4381536 - 07/07/05 10:40 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

Man, you are so naive. You just believe whatever the neocons tell you, don't you? It's so freaking obvious Blair knew.



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Re: Blair Knew! [Re: Phred]
    #4381537 - 07/07/05 10:41 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

Only because Bush told him... :smirk:


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Re: Blair Knew! [Re: Phred]
    #4381541 - 07/07/05 10:43 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

This post makes me wonder if Alex Jones is just some smart ass who goes home every night, laughing his ass off over his tin foil following.


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Re: Blair Knew! [Re: Phred]
    #4381695 - 07/07/05 11:32 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

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Phred said:
If Bush Deliberately Allowed 9-11, Did Blair Allow 7-7?

Just curious.

After all, he's not politically popular. Maybe, like Chimphitler McHalliburton, he decided he'd goose his popularity ratings by allowing a terrorist attack on the homeland.

Because, you know, there's no way you could reap similar political benefits by foiling an attempted mass-slaughter.

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Of course he did. He and Bush planned both attacks together. It's so obvious. I would give you links proving it, but I can't give up my sources, naturally.


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Re: Blair Knew! [Re: Phred]
    #4381730 - 07/07/05 11:45 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

It could be either. No one knows for sure. I'm still not sure about 9/11.

Only the madman is absolutely sure, and only an ignorant madman would be sure in this particular matter, unless they were actually involved in it.

That being said, I lean more towards the possibility that it's not as cut-and-dry as the mass media / government would lead us to believe.

I like to go by the saying that "When you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to stop and reconsider."

All these people who are "sure" either way are either too naive to question or too paranoid to believe any different.


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Re: Blair Knew! [Re: Phred]
    #4381746 - 07/07/05 11:49 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

Yawn...


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Re: Blair Knew! [Re: Adamist]
    #4381753 - 07/07/05 11:50 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

I'm not too naive to question. I just find it a waste of my time to fret about it when no one has brought any reasonable evidence to the table that the US gov't knew or took part in the attacks.


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Re: Blair Knew! [Re: Phred]
    #4381807 - 07/08/05 12:11 AM (11 years, 11 months ago)

Well I guess now it should be safe to say that we know somebody knew something was coming..

http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2005-07-07-israel-londonblasts_x.htm?POE=NEWISVA

http://www.rense.com/general66/net.htm


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Re: Blair Knew! [Re: usefulidiot]
    #4381822 - 07/08/05 12:20 AM (11 years, 11 months ago)

The second article you linked says that Netanyahu stayed in his hotel because he was warned AFTER the first blast. The first article simply says he stayed in "because of the warnings", and doesn't specify if they are before, or after the blast.

Seems like you're a little quick to assume certain things.

I wouldn't be suprised if they got various threats from different groups because of the G8. Unless the british police are a bunch of chimps, they probably thought of the idea themselves that the G8 conference may have prompted some attacks.


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Re: Blair Knew! [Re: Phluck]
    #4381843 - 07/08/05 12:28 AM (11 years, 11 months ago)

You can't rule it out though, like some are so quick to.  :crazy:

Whether thee knew about,  or orchestrated, or were totally innocent, regardless this will be used to the government's advantage in furthering their agenda of turning the world into a one-government control-grid. That's what pisses me off.  :evil:


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Re: Blair Knew! [Re: Adamist]
    #4381862 - 07/08/05 12:35 AM (11 years, 11 months ago)

You can't entirely rule it out, but if you approach something trying to prove that it is one way, you're going to get stuck with the confirmation bias. Basically, people will try so hard to collect information that proves their point, that they'll collect a HUGE pile of really flimsy evidence, old news articles talking about the possibility of terrorist attacks in england and the like, and claim that there is so much of it that it must be true.

It's dangerous to get stuck on one theory, especially if the evidence is weak. While you're busy trying to prove yourself right, you might miss solid evidence for a completely different angle, something you hadn't ever considered.

It's better to try and collect ALL the data you can find, and then look it over. Trying to find data that proves your point means you're ignoring the rest of the information. This is how people get stuck believing weird conspiracy theories.


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Re: Blair Knew! [Re: Phluck]
    #4381888 - 07/08/05 12:44 AM (11 years, 11 months ago)

Your right, the USA Today article says that Netanyahu was warned after the blast.. Although the AP article does imlply that there was some amount of foreknowledge as it states that there were warnings before either explosion.

Quote:

JERUSALEM - British police told the Israeli Embassy in London minutes before Thursday's explosions that they had received warnings of possible terror attacks in the city, a senior Israeli official said.




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Re: Blair Knew! [Re: usefulidiot]
    #4381895 - 07/08/05 12:47 AM (11 years, 11 months ago)

The same way that the Jews who worked in the WTC knew not to come into work, of course.


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Re: Blair Knew! [Re: Phred]
    #4381970 - 07/08/05 01:09 AM (11 years, 11 months ago)

:lol:






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Re: Blair Knew! [Re: lonestar2004]
    #4382058 - 07/08/05 01:29 AM (11 years, 11 months ago)

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The same way that the Jews who worked in the WTC knew not to come into work, of course.




Well maybe, but not entirely.. atleast not so far anyway. I am definitely interested in seeing how this unfolds as more information comes to surface in the next little while. Some of the reported warnings prior to 9/11 were alot more specific than what we have on this so far.. and going by what seems to be the only report on forewarnings we have right now we don't even really know if the warning originated from a government insider who may have been involved on some level or from somewhat of a sympathetic somebody who may have actually been affilliated with a real 'terrorist' group that could have planted the bombs in the first place..

Thats not to say of course I don't think it's possible that elements in the British (and possibly other) governments and intelligence agencies were behind this. Quite the contrary. I guess my only question would be, why would any 'real' terrorist organization want to plant bombs and kill innocent civillians and then admit to it in the first place when they know full well that they would have some of the worlds largest armies on their asses almost immediately after?


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Re: Blair Knew! [Re: usefulidiot]
    #4382102 - 07/08/05 01:40 AM (11 years, 11 months ago)

You made the mistake of thinking that terrorists are rational actors. Anyone who straps a bomb to their chest to kill civilians automatically forfeits the title of "rational" anything.


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