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wtf is this green and rusty growth on cake ?? (1st flush results)
    #4379623 - 07/07/05 12:06 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

12 brf cakes were started about 30 days ago, 6 of the jars colonized 2 weeks ago and were cased with 50/50+. recently the other 6 jars colonized and when they were removed to dunk and then fruit as cakes, two of the cakes had some weird growth on them.

The first cake had some rusty looking mark that looked like a watermark or something. The jars were in the incubator for over 4 weeks. when the cake was taken out of the jar, the rust mark felt gooey and it went about 1 inch in depth into the cake. should the whole cake be tossed or just cut out the weird part? or is that normal?



On the other cake, on the bottom of the cake there was a thin layer of green. While the jar was incubating the jars where with the lid facing down and there was some water condensation that would buildup and drip from the inside-top part of the jar onto the top of the cake. should it be tossed too?

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Re: wtf is this green and rusty growth on cake ?? [Re: ziploker]
    #4379644 - 07/07/05 12:18 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

The top one looks like bacteria to me...not 100% on that.

The bottom one looks like bruising to me...not 100% on that either but bottom one definatly looks more normal to me...if it were me I'd probably toss the top and keep the bottom.


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Re: wtf is this green and rusty growth on cake ?? [Re: scatmanrav]
    #4379867 - 07/07/05 01:12 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

The top one...I don't know.

The bottom one...
You could rub it with a Q-tip dipped in H2O2 and see if anything comes off. If it does it's bad, if it doesn't it's probably just bruising. But it does look like just bruising IMO.


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Re: wtf is this green and rusty growth on cake ?? [Re: VirgilKane]
    #4379947 - 07/07/05 01:35 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

well the bottom is bruising and the top looks something like wet rot and that is caused from moisture sitting in that one spot i would say it is fine just fruit it i have had that before but not as big and my cakes did fine!!!!but i do casings now with wbs spawned to poo!!!good luck.


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Re: wtf is this green and rusty growth on cake ?? [Re: sludge]
    #4380074 - 07/07/05 02:14 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

One of my jars looked exactly like the top one , I squirted too much liquid culture into it and water gathered in one spot causing it to look just like that.


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Re: wtf is this green and rusty growth on cake ?? [Re: MaJikFungus]
    #4380980 - 07/07/05 06:17 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

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One of my jars looked exactly like the top one , I squirted too much liquid culture into it and water gathered in one spot causing it to look just like that.




Yeah.. i remember that while inoculating one of the jars, the syringe got stuck and when it got unstuck it squirted a whole cc into one of the holes of the jar. i don't know if that was the one tho. Also, before dunking the cake i tried removing the rusty looking part of the cake and i think i shouldn't have.. will the cake still work with a little chunk ripped out of it?




the other cake with blue tine turned out to be bruising cuz it wont wipe off to a q-tip

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Re: wtf is this green and rusty growth on cake ?? [Re: ziploker]
    #4381024 - 07/07/05 06:29 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

Yuck! It looks a lot worse now...
I would toss it bro...

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Re: wtf is this green and rusty growth on cake ?? [Re: ParanoidAndroid]
    #4381033 - 07/07/05 06:31 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

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Yuck! It looks a lot worse now...
I would toss it bro...





Well.. the first picture was fresh outta the jar... but the 2ND picture is after dunking in cold water for over five hours.. i think it looks worse cuz of the dunking? should i toss it?

thanks for all yer replies by the way.. lemme know what you think

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Re: wtf is this green and rusty growth on cake ?? [Re: ParanoidAndroid]
    #4381047 - 07/07/05 06:36 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

give it time and isolation. make it a "mini" terranium. who knows, there may be some good times in that cake. myc. is a living organism and it can repair itself.


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Re: wtf is this green and rusty growth on cake ?? [Re: iateshaggy]
    #4381055 - 07/07/05 06:38 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

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iateshaggy said:
give it time and isolation. make it a "mini" terranium. who knows, there may be some good times in that cake. myc. is a living organism and it can repair itself.




cool..sounds like a good plan.. will do that..


thanks again

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Re: wtf is this green and rusty growth on cake ?? [Re: ziploker]
    #4381880 - 07/07/05 10:41 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

That thing looks pretty shoddy..


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Re: wtf is this green and rusty growth on cake ?? [Re: scatmanrav]
    #4381897 - 07/07/05 10:47 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

ya it does now but who knows give it a try, the cake i had was not that bad and it forming from to much water it will not spread,but that cake looks wack dog,all you can do is put it by itself,unless you have a bunch more cakes then i would'nt miss with it!!!!


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