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Invisibleactionshroom
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Idiots
    #4380276 - 07/07/05 04:59 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

I talked to this fucktard that pissed me off so much. He told me:

1) Eating shrooms fresh is bad for you

2) Psilocybin is poison

I asked him where he heard these myths and he gave me a bunch of sources. He kept arguing with me, and was so confident that he was correct. What a dumb ass dealer.


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Re: Idiots [Re: actionshroom]
    #4380336 - 07/07/05 05:11 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

He's probably thinking of aminatas and muscinol. However, high doses of Ps. cubensis can definitely lead to strophoria poisoning.


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Re: Idiots [Re: TripTout]
    #4380396 - 07/07/05 05:29 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

taken from erowid:

"Psilocybin, psilocin and psilocybian mushrooms have very low toxicity - in tests with mice, doses up to 200 mg of pure psilocybin/kg of body weight have been injected intravenously without lethal effects (that would be 13 grams of pure psilocybin per average human (65 kg / 140 lbs). The ED50:LD50 ratio is 641 according to the NIOSH Registry of Toxic Effects; compare this with 9637 for vitamin A, 4816 for LSD, 199 for aspirin and 21 for nicotine. According to Leo Hollister, Jonathon Ott, and John W. Allen, one would have to consume their body weight in fresh mushrooms or eat approximately 19 grams of the pure chemical substance to bring on death. As long as Psilocybin mushrooms are properly identified, poisoning is not a problem."

And btw Psilocybin is a tryptamine not a poison :P The thing about eating fresh mushrooms is that you dont know how much you're taking. Its better to dry them because then you can accurately guage the dose you're taking.


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Idiots [Re: coda]
    #4380475 - 07/07/05 05:50 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

Actually there is a greater possibility for error when weighing out dry mushrooms. There is no real way to tell what percentage of active alkaloids the shrooms are before eating them without expensive lab equipment.

I was just commenting about how misinformed so many people are. People blindly exept myths as truths and pass them on without checking the facts. I've heard people say the dumbest shit about shrooms because of this, and it pisses me off when people argue, passing off myths as truths.


Edited by actionshroom (07/07/05 06:03 PM)


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Re: Idiots [Re: actionshroom]
    #4380544 - 07/07/05 06:10 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

no they are passing on propoganda as truths. but i see what your saying. the sad part is that we learn from one another and sometimes what a peron will tell you is complete shit. BTW this doesnt belong in the cult.


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