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Invisibledorkus
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i don't Know
    #4379367 - 07/07/05 12:42 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

i don't Know.

What is it that You Know?

How can you know?

Who knows?

Should I know?


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Re: i don't Know [Re: dorkus]
    #4379384 - 07/07/05 12:47 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

You really do know.

You just don't know you know.


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Re: i don't Know [Re: LazyCrash]
    #4379718 - 07/07/05 02:39 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

" To perceive directly"


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Re: i don't Know [Re: dorkus]
    #4380142 - 07/07/05 04:37 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Best guess is all it is. Your best guess, about your life.  If you can handle that, then there is no need to pretend that you know. You feel comfortable with the unknown. Which is all you know. :wink: :heart:


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Re: i don't Know [Re: dorkus]
    #4380301 - 07/07/05 05:04 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

"I Know.....but I won't tell ya!"

- From 'The Little Rascals' Episode #94 'Moan & Groan, Inc.'


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Re: i don't Know [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
    #4380469 - 07/07/05 05:48 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

I was extremely depressed today, and have been crying alot. Being off drugs surely stirs up some storms.

Now I have been doing Metta, and feel calm.

Enjoy your knowing, I'll go "salsa dancing with my confusion".

Take care, y'all.


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Re: i don't Know [Re: dorkus]
    #4380476 - 07/07/05 05:50 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

"I Know.....but I won't tell ya!"

- From 'The Little Rascals' Episode #94 'Moan & Groan, Inc.'


Thus he said with the pride of a child?


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Re: i don't Know [Re: dorkus]
    #4380596 - 07/07/05 06:23 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

A star
is as far
as the eye
can see
and
as near
as my eye
is to me.

(Gregory Corso)

"Mind is outer space." Cosmopolitan Greetings

When you open your eyes, you can see the vast night sky and stars to the end of the sky, as much as can be seen. When you close your eyes, it's the same sky. It's that same vastness.


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Re: i don't Know [Re: LazyCrash]
    #4381023 - 07/07/05 08:28 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

LazyCrash said:
You really do know.

You just don't know you know.




Do you think people repeat this, or is it true? Sometimes I agree with it, sometimes I don't. I think you know as much as you don't know.


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Re: i don't Know [Re: sox24]
    #4381275 - 07/07/05 09:39 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

yeah but you don't know what it is that you don't know

and so you know everything knowable at that instance


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Re: i don't Know [Re: dorkus]
    #4381623 - 07/07/05 11:06 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Well, there's any number of us whom you can PM if ya want.


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Re: i don't Know [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
    #4382288 - 07/08/05 02:32 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

sox24...I only said it because it was so cliche of a response to a post like that, haha.

But I don't know if I believe it either. When on shrooms or salvia, it really feels like you are getting in touch with something so familiar. Plus I think we are all connected with the Earth, thus all knowledge in society is connected through the Earth...so in some metaphysical way, maybe we really do know.


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Re: i don't Know [Re: LazyCrash]
    #4382840 - 07/08/05 05:38 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

you guys are gay


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Re: i don't Know [Re: grphish]
    #4382856 - 07/08/05 05:59 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

among my polyphrenic identities, any individual one of us knows very little indeed; while series and sequences of me's are fairly flash.

the individual selves are developing better "meshing together": responding with interest, intimacy and detatchment. they don't stick around long enough to have much useful knowledge beyond that.


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Re: i don't Know [Re: dorkus]
    #4383015 - 07/08/05 09:15 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

dr_mandelbrot said:
I was extremely depressed today, and have been crying alot. Being off drugs surely stirs up some storms.

Now I have been doing Metta, and feel calm.

Enjoy your knowing, I'll go "salsa dancing with my confusion".

Take care, y'all.




I want something profound to say here, but I know I have nothing remotely like that to share with you.

You are getting exactally what you need friend.  What I would like to share with you is my love and respect for you. I have come to like you very much brother. :heart: :heart: :mushroom2:


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" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC


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Re: i don't Know [Re: Gomp]
    #4384001 - 07/08/05 02:59 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Dr., I feel urged to reply, because you hit my heart with this.
As Gomp stated, I would say 'most you know, is what you percieve'.
In contradiction to that, the basic evolutionary-built strucutures of mind, the fundamental genetic rules about 'how' you percieve are often interfering with the knowledge of 'what' someone percieves. Also the 'how' is a part of 'directness' of information (seen it self, or reading about it ? Manipulated videos ? What way of proof ?)

So the 'what' and 'how' of perception build the base of 'knowledge', primarily.

Edit: I allways say: The latest moment you know that there is a wall is, when it will smash your nose.
Edit2: But the sparkeling and multiple 'hows' make the 'what' a more clear and reasonable subject of 'knowledge' :smile:


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Edited by BlueCoyote (07/08/05 03:45 PM)


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Re: i don't Know [Re: BlueCoyote]
    #4384573 - 07/08/05 06:32 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

"Enjoy your knowing, I'll go "salsa dancing with my confusion"." Speed levitch is the man. Check out his book Speedology, I devoured it in a day, one of the most original minds in the world today no doubt; and only partially dellusional to boot! Don't forget though: "And so many think because then happened, now isn't. But didn't I mention? the ongoing *WOW* is happening right now. We are all co-authors of this dancing exuberance, for even our inabilities are having a roast." ahh waking life...


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The Dreams that stuff is made of!


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Re: i don't Know [Re: futant462]
    #4386383 - 07/09/05 11:27 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

"thou art that"


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(an oldie but a goodie, eh?)


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