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Multiple explosions rock London
    #4378791 - 07/07/05 03:55 AM (18 years, 8 months ago)

http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/europe/07/07/london.tube/index.html

Thursday, July 7, 2005; Posted: 5:48 a.m. EDT (09:48 GMT)

LONDON, England (CNN) -- A bus was ripped apart in an explosion in central London today and several blasts rocked the Tube network leaving dozens of people injured.

The Tube blasts at the height of the rush hour on Thursday were initially blamed on a power surge.

But amid the chaos eyewitnesses reported that a packed double decker bus in the Russell Square area had been severely damaged in a blast.

Union officials blamed the Tube blasts on a series of bombs, and Scotland Yard confirmed the bus explosion and said it was dealing with "multiple explosions" in London.

A second bus was reported to have been damaged in Tavistock Square.

Describing the Russell Square blast, eyewitness Belinda Seabrook told the UK Press Association she saw an explosion rip through the bus as it approached the Square.

"I was on the bus in front and heard an incredible bang, I turned round and half the double decker bus was in the air," she said.

She said the bus was travelling from Euston to Russell Square and had been "packed" with people turned away from Tube stops.

Travellers emerged from underground tunnels covered in blood and soot. Scotland Yard declared the emergency a "major incident."

Emergency services were called to London's Liverpool Street Station after reports of an explosion shortly before 9 a.m.

A short while later, London Underground said there had been "another incident at Edgware Road" station in north west London.

A London Ambulance Service spokeswoman said: "We have just sent some resources out to the scene. We have sent a number of vehicles to Liverpool Street station."

Police told the UK Press Association there were "walking wounded" and said paramedics had responded to one report of a person classed as "life at risk."

"There are walking wounded, but that is as much as we know at the moment," said the spokesman.

He confirmed that the incident took place on the Metropolitan Line between Aldgate and Liverpool Street and said the line has been evacuated. King's Cross, Liverpool Street and Aldgate stations have also been cleared.

The incident caused major disruption to the entire network with stations across the capital being closed.

Passengers were told that all services were being suspended because of a power fault across the network.

A City of London Police spokesman said: "We have closed Liverpool Street station as well as Aldgate.

"We believe there was some sort of explosion. There are some walking wounded at Aldgate. "We are not sure of the scale of the incident. Reports are still coming in."


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Re: Multiple explosions rock London [Re: Rose]
    #4378827 - 07/07/05 04:28 AM (18 years, 8 months ago)

No one here mentioned anything about attacks on Russia a while back, ie. Beslan and the two planes blown up. Will everyone believe the war on terrorism isn't just a conspiracy when European cities are bombed? Paris was bombed in 1995, but most here never heard of it.

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Re: Multiple explosions rock London [Re: Los_Pepes]
    #4378831 - 07/07/05 04:33 AM (18 years, 8 months ago)

Does not look good :crying:

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I was in the second last carriage on a Piccadilly Line train. We had just left Kings Cross and had not gone very far, perhaps a minute.

Everything was normal. Suddenly there was a massive bang, the train jolted. There was immediately smoke everywhere and it was hot and everybody panicked. People started screaming and crying.

  We were thinking we were not going to get out - people thought they were just going to suffocate.

But not long after people were panicking, there were some cool-headed people who were saying "calm down, everybody calm down, don't worry it will be OK"

All the carriages were absolutely packed. Everyone crouched down as well as they could on the floor.

A couple of men started trying to open the train doors a little but some people were unsure as to whether the smoke was from the carriage or was coming from outside. They managed to get the doors open about five or 10 inches. Slowly the smoke started to filter out.

But then it sounded like another train had come up behind us and the carriage filled with smoke again and people became really, really frightened.

People were crying and then people started talking and shouting between the carriages. They kept saying there were people leaving the carriage behind us. They were saying they had broken a window and they started smashing a window in our carriages

We were there about 20 minutes before engineers freed us. There were absolutely no announcements during this time.

We were led out down another tunnel back to the station, which was then evacuated.

It was very scary while we were stuck on the train. Very silent and we were thinking we were not going to get out. People thought they were just going to suffocate.





http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/talking_point/4659237.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/4659093.stm

MSNBC reports a statement by Prime Minister Blair within the half hour (11:30am-12pm GMT). 
Was going to go to sleep but it looks like I'll be up for a while now.  :crazy:

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Re: Multiple explosions rock London [Re: Los_Pepes]
    #4378835 - 07/07/05 04:40 AM (18 years, 8 months ago)

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Los_Pepes said:
No one here mentioned anything about attacks on Russia a while back, ie. Beslan and the two planes blown up.  Will everyone believe the war on terrorism isn't just a conspiracy when European cities are bombed?  Paris was bombed in 1995, but most here never heard of it.




Don't forget Madrid... last year... :smirk:


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Re: Multiple explosions rock London [Re: Los_Pepes]
    #4378837 - 07/07/05 04:42 AM (18 years, 8 months ago)

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Los_Pepes said:
Will everyone believe the war on terrorism isn't just a conspiracy when European cities are bombed?





I am afraid I don't understand the point you're trying to make.


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Re: Multiple explosions rock London [Re: Rose]
    #4378852 - 07/07/05 05:04 AM (18 years, 8 months ago)

Blair says it is, "Reasonably clear" this was a terrorist attack... and he will return to London, leaving G8 early.


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Re: Multiple explosions rock London [Re: Rose]
    #4378969 - 07/07/05 06:17 AM (18 years, 8 months ago)

Yet another win for the terrorists thanks to the huge media coverage.


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Re: Multiple explosions rock London [Re: Seuss]
    #4379038 - 07/07/05 07:25 AM (18 years, 8 months ago)

Sounds like more of those peace loving muslims at it again. I guess trying to understand them and talking to them really is working to make the world a better place. They've probably just misunderstood.

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Re: Multiple explosions rock London [Re: snoopaloop53]
    #4379053 - 07/07/05 07:40 AM (18 years, 8 months ago)

*radical muslims

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Re: Multiple explosions rock London [Re: snoopaloop53]
    #4379064 - 07/07/05 07:55 AM (18 years, 8 months ago)

:rolleyes:

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Re: Multiple explosions rock London [Re: Rose]
    #4379111 - 07/07/05 08:34 AM (18 years, 8 months ago)

The guys that did this are probably all back at the Mosque drinking tea and slapping each other on the back.


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Re: Multiple explosions rock London [Re: Rose]
    #4379156 - 07/07/05 09:03 AM (18 years, 8 months ago)

I see Muslims are taking the rap for this one so far. Because of a website posting that claimed responsibility. Wow, doesn't take much these days.

Who has something to gain? I bet the National ID card will have no problem getting accepted now.

We need some real justice. Chasing around these invisible muslims that claim responsibility for everything doesn't seem to be stopping terrorism.


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Re: Multiple explosions rock London [Re: J4S0N]
    #4379166 - 07/07/05 09:10 AM (18 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

J4S0N said:
I see Muslims are taking the rap for this one so far. Because of a website posting that claimed responsibility. Wow, doesn't take much these days.

Who has something to gain? I bet the National ID card will have no problem getting accepted now.

We need some real justice. Chasing around these invisible muslims that claim responsibility for everything doesn't seem to be stopping terrorism.



My thoughts EXACTLY.


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Re: Multiple explosions rock London [Re: J4S0N]
    #4379168 - 07/07/05 09:11 AM (18 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

J4S0N said:
I see Muslims are taking the rap for this one so far. Because of a website posting that claimed responsibility. Wow, doesn't take much these days.

Who has something to gain? I bet the National ID card will have no problem getting accepted now.

We need some real justice. Chasing around these invisible muslims that claim responsibility for everything doesn't seem to be stopping terrorism.




Are you trying to suggest that some kind of government did it, just so they can have a national id card?

Getting real justice requires that we chase these people down and catch them. They unfortunately aren't going to just turn themselves in.

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Re: Multiple explosions rock London [Re: snoopaloop53]
    #4379177 - 07/07/05 09:14 AM (18 years, 8 months ago)

It's definately a possibility Jim-bo.


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Re: Multiple explosions rock London [Re: J4S0N]
    #4379188 - 07/07/05 09:19 AM (18 years, 8 months ago)

"We need some real justice. Chasing around these invisible muslims that claim responsibility for everything doesn't seem to be stopping terrorism. "

hahahahahahahaahaahahaahahahah



All Muslims Are Not Terrorists, But All Terrorists Are Muslim





1979) The Shah of Iran is deposed by Islamic fanatics. Months later Muslims stormed the US embassy and took hostages. Carter retaliates with a handful of troops against an entire country. Result...Burning choppers of Americans in the desert.

1982) US Embassy in Beirut was bombed by Muslims. Reagan sent in Marines. In '83 their barracks were blown up, Dems whined until Reagan withdrew.

1985) Italian cruise ship Achille Lauro was seized and a 69 year old American was shot and thrown overboard. Reagan tells the Dems to shut-up, Ollie North captures the terrorists for Italy and hands them over to the Italian government who promptly releases them.

1986) West Berlin discotheque bombed killing American soldiers. Reagan smashes Libya and the French Embassy. All while winning the Cold War.

1988) Pan AM 103, blown up by Muslims.

1990) Hussein invades Kuwait, George H.W. Bush went to war the way Libs like--with our UN allies. Still the Dems complained saying he didn't finish off Hussein. Interestingly, on our way to Baghdad under G.W. Bush the Dems insisted we stop outside the city. First bashing Bush 1 for stopping short of killing Hussein, then blasting Bush 2 for actually taking him out. Mind boggling.

1993) Feb, WTC bombed, Clinton did nothing. Oct, 18 US troops killed in Somalia, Clinton pulled out.

1995) 5 killed and 35 wounded by car bomb in Saudi. Clinton did nothing.

1996) Air Force complex bombed in Saudi. Clinton sat. Same year Saddam attacks Kurds. Clinton lobs a few bombs hundreds of miles away from any of Saddam's military.

1997) Iraq threatens to shoot down US planes. Clinton does nothing.

1998) Clinton threatens to bomb Iraq but UN said no. In the same year the US Embassies in Kenya and Tanzania are bombed by Muslims. Clinton did nothing.

1999) The only time Clinton goes to war. However he attacks the Serbians who were trying to fight off a Muslim invasion.

2000) USS Cole bombed by Muslims. Clinton, again, did nothing.

See a pattern here? Enter George W. Bush, 9/11/01, Muslims attack and murder over 3000 Americans. Bush later gives the "Axis of Evil" speech, citing Iran, Iraq, And North Korea. Dems whine about including North Korea in the "Axis". So we go into Iraq and the Dems change their tune to "Why aren't we in North Korea?"

No attacks to date on American soil since.

Here are some more:

The sovereign territory of the US embassy in Beirut was bombed on April 18, 1983 by the Muslim group Islamic Jihad killing 17 Americans,

A suicidal Islamic terrorist drove a truckload of explosives into the US Marine Corps Headquarters at the Beirut airport on October 23, 1983 killing 239 US servicemen,

An Islamic jihadist warrior drove a truckload of explosives into the sovereign territory of the US embassy in Kuwait on December 12, 1983 killing six and injuring many more,

A Muslim suicide bomber from Islamic Jihad drove a truckload of explosives into the sovereign territory of the US embassy in East Beirut Lebanon on September 20, 1984 killing 14,

Four Arabic Islamic militants hijacked a Kuwaiti Airbus en route to Pakistan on December 4, 1984 and, after forcing the plane to land in Iran, shot and killed two US government officials,

Two Muslim members of Islamic Jihad hijacked a TWA flight en route to Rome on June 14, 1985 and, after forcing the plane to land in Beirut, brutally beat, then shot US Navy Diver Robert Stethem,

Four Islamic militants hijacked the Italian Cruise ship Achille Lauro on October 7, 1985 and, while the ship was off the coast of Syria, the Muslim gunmen shot, killed and dumped into the sea the 69 year old wheelchair bound American Leon Klinghoffer,

Anti West Islamic terrorists hijacked an Egyptian Boeing 737 flight en route to Cairo on November 23, 1985 and forced it to land in Malta where 57 of the 98 passengers and crew were killed in a gun battle with Egyptian troops,

Seven Islamic terrorists conducted simultaneous attacks on the ticket counters at Rome's Leonardo da Vinci airport and Vienna's Schwechat Airport on December 27, 1985 killing 18 and seriously wounding 110 Western tourists,

Islamic militants planted and exploded a bomb on board a TWA flight en route to Athens on April 2, 1986 killing four Western tourists, including a infant, who were swept out of the gaping hole in the damaged fuselage,

Libyan funded Islamic terrorists exploded a bomb at the La Belle discotheque in West Berlin on April 5, 1986 killing 1 US serviceman and seriously wounding about 50 US military personnel,

Four Arabic speaking Islamic gunmen stormed their way on board a Pan Am 747 flight en route to New York during a stopover at Karachi on September 5, 1986 killing 21 passengers,

Two Arabic speaking Islamic gunmen entered a synagogue in Istanbul on September 6, 1986 and opened fire with submachine guns and hand grenades killing 21 of the congregation,

A navy vessel of the Islamic State of Iran with 26 Islamic militants aboard was captured by US forces on September 21, 1987 after it was discovered laying mines in the Persian Gulf, in international waters used by US ships as an anchorage,

The Islamic State of Iran launched numerous unprovoked speedboat attacks against international and US shipping interests from oil platforms in the Persian Gulf before the US Navy destroyed the platform bases from which the attacks were launched on October 19, 1987,

Eight Arabic speaking Islamic militants hijacked a Kuwaiti 747 flight en route to Kuwait on April 5, 1988 killing two passengers before the Algerian government gave the hijackers free passage out of the country,

The Islamic State of Iran launched a naval attack against US ships in the Persian Gulf on April 18, 1988 destroying one US Cobra gunship before losing one missile patrol boat, three large armed speedboats and two frigates in the United States' ongoing battle to prevent Iran from laying mines in International waters to harass international Persian Gulf shipping,

The Islamic State of Iran launched yet another naval attack against US ships in the Persian Gulf on July 3, 1988 during which the USS Ship Vincennes, battling Iranian gunships in International waters, spotted an unidentified aircraft approaching from a known military airfield and shot the aircraft down, mistaking a commercial Iranian Airbus for an attacking Iranian F-14,

Muslim terrorists, sponsored by the Islamic State of Libya, bombed a Pan Am 747 flight over Lockerbie Scotland on December 21, 1988 killing all 259 Western passengers on board and 11 others on the ground,

The Islamic State of Libya scrambled two MiG 23s armed with missiles to attack two US F-14s on patrol over international waters on January 4, 1989; the MiGs were shot down by the US planes after the Libyan pilots pursued them with clear, hostile intent,

Muslim Cleric Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini, leader of the Islamic State of Iran, declared a fatwa on February 14,1989 calling for the death of author Salman Rushdie for writing a work of fiction entitled "The Satanic Verses",

A chemical plant, located in the town of Rabta in the Islamic Nation of Libya, known to produce chemical weapons, was "burned down" on March 14, 1990 in an elaborate hoax, designed to divert attention from Libya's resumed production of poison gas,

On April 10, 1990 British Customs officials seized precision steel tubes designed for a large gun capable of firing nuclear and chemical weapons which were bound for the Arab nation of Iraq,

Muslim militants, sponsored by the Islamic State of Libya, captured and held 47 hostages (including the country's prime minister) in the Caribbean nation of Trinidad and Tobago on July 27, 1990 in a failed coup attempt to establish an Islamic state on the Caribbean island,

The Arab nation of Iraq invaded Kuwait on August 2, 1990 and soon announced Kuwait had been annexed to Iraq and no longer existed, then refused to allow 10,000 Westerners to leave either Iraq or Kuwait,

Following a United Nations resolution passed on November 29, 1990, requiring the Arab nation of Iraq to withdraw from Kuwait by January 15, 1991, the United States led a United Nations coalition on January 17, 1991 attacking Iraq,

The United States declared the battle with the Arab nation of Iraq to be over on February 27, 1991 after freeing Kuwait, but without deposing Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein or capturing the capital Baghdad,

The United Nations passed the first of many resolutions on April 3, 1991 requiring the Arab nation of Iraq to destroy it's weapons of mass destruction in order to comply with the permanent cease fire agreement; then was required to pass a resolution to impose the Northern and Southern No Fly Zones when Saddam Hussein attacked the Kurds in the North and the Shiites in the south,

United Nations inspectors reported to the UN Security Council on July 30, 1991 they had discovered four times the amount of chemical and biological weapons the Arab nation of Iraq had previously acknowledged having as part of the UN cease fire agreement,

United Nations inspectors were held against their will in a parking lot by Arab Iraqi soldiers after discovering documents on September 24, 1991 that provided details of the Arab nation of Iraq's secret nuclear weapons program in violation of the cease fire agreement,

The Islamic Sudanese government, with the support and encouragement of the Islamic State of Iran, drove 400,000 Christians and non Muslims from it's capital Khartoum on February 21, 1992 into the surrounding desert without food, water, or shelter to a virtual death sentence; while the local Sudanese Muslims agreed to offer assistance, only if the refugees first converted to Islam,

Islamic fundamentalists, hoping to kill at least 250,000 Americans, bombed the World Trade Center in New York on February 26, 1993 killing 6 and seriously injuring more than a thousand,

Islamic militants on October 4, 1993 attacked and killed 12 US Marines and seriously wounded another 74 US marines who were implementing an United Nations mandated humanitarian relief mission to prevent starvation in Mogadishu Somalia,

Four Muslim militants from the Algerian Armed Islamic Group kidnapped a French Airbus flight en route to Paris on December 24, 1994 killing three and injuring many others,

Islamic militants exploded a bomb on a commuter train in Paris on July 25, 1995 killing 4 and injuring more than 80 Westerners,

Islamic militants exploded a bomb in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia on November 13, 1996 killing five Americans and injuring 60 others,

Islamic militants ambushed, shot and killed 18 Western tourists outside their hotel in Cairo on April 4, 1996,

Saudi Muslim militants with the support of the Islamic State of Iran exploded a massive truck bomb on June 25, 1996 in Saudi Arabia killing 19 US servicemen and seriously injuring several hundred others on the perimeter of the Khobar Towers military complex near the city of Az-Zahran,

Islamic militants in Afghanistan, with the support and funding of the Islamic States of Saudi Arabia and Pakistan, seized control of Kabul on September 27, 1996 and established an Islamic State under the rule of a repressive regime known as the Taliban,

An Islamic militant opened fire on the observation deck of the Empire State Building in New York on February 23, 1997 killing 1 tourist and seriously wounding six other Western tourists,

Islamic militants launched a bomb attack on a tourist bus in Cairo on September 18, 1997 killing 10 Western tourists,

Muslim militants from the Algerian Armed Islamic Group massacred 85 people on September 23, 1997 on the outskirts of Algiers following an almost identical massacre the previous month,

Six Islamic militants opened fire on non Muslim Western tourists in Luxor Egypt on November 17, 1997 killing 60 of the Western tourists and 10 Egyptians,

Muslim militants from the Algerian Armed Islamic Group launched a series of massacres in Algeria aimed at the non Muslim European population in which over 250 people were killed in successive attacks on December 23rd, 24th, 25th, 27th and 31st, 1997,

The Islamic Nation of Iran test fired a medium range missile purchased from North Korea on July 23, 1998,

Iraq's leader Saddam Hussein announced the Arab nation of Iraq was ceasing all cooperation with UN weapons inspectors,

Islamic militants under the direction of Osama bin Laden simultaneously exploded two bombs on August 7, 1998 destroying the sovereign territories of the US Embassies in Kenya and Tanzania killing 270 embassy employees and staff members,

The United States Navy fired Tomahawk missiles from warships in the Persian Gulf to destroy a chemical factory in Sudan, suspected of manufacturing nerve gas, and an Islamic military training camp run by Osama bin Laden in Afghanistan,

Islamic militants kidnapped 16 non Muslim Western tourists in Yemen on December 28, 1998 killing 4 British and Australian citizens,

A suspected suicidal Muslim pilot was believed to have purposely crashed an Egypt Air Flight into the sea shortly after takeoff from New York on October 31, 1999 killing all 217 on board,

An Islamic militant, Ahmed Ressam, driving an automobile loaded with explosives and carrying a detailed map of Los Angeles airport, to be used in a terror attack known as the Millennium Plot, was stopped on December 14, 1999 at the US border with Canada by Customs; Ressam was captured after he attempted to flee on foot,

Egyptian Muslims killed 24 Coptic Christians on January 2, 2000 in the village of Al-Kosheh south of Cairo,

Islamic militants attacked non Muslims and Christians in the Nigerian city of Kaduna, on February 21, 2000 as part of the Muslim population's imposition of sharia law; Kaduna was to become the site of more Islamic violence in 2002 when militant Islamists killed over 100 non Muslims and seriously wounded hundreds more in protests sparked by a newspaper report of a beauty pageant,

Arab supported Muslim militants from the Islamic group Abu Sayyaf took 21 non Muslim Western tourists as hostages on April 23, 2000 in the Southern Philippines,

Arab inspired Islamic militants began the second intifada after Israeli politician Ariel Sharon visited the Temple Mount in Jerusalem on September 28, 2000 resulting in the deaths of over one thousand Israelis and Palestinians,

Islamic militants in Yemen exploded a small boat alongside the USS Cole on October 12, 2000 killing 17 US Navy crewmen and crippling the navy destroyer,

Muslim militants from the Arab supported Islamic Abu Sayyaf group exploded five bombs in Manila on December 31, 2000 killing 14,

Muslim militants from the Algerian Armed Islamic Group slaughtered 27 people, mostly women and children, on February 10, 2001 in Algeria,

Islamic militants shot and killed one of the first Kuwaiti woman journalists and the editor and owner of the magazine Al Majales in her car on March 20, 2001,

The Muslim leaders of the Islamic State of Afghanistan, the Taliban, issued a Nazi like decree on May 22, 2001 requiring all non Muslims to wear an identifying badge,

Eight Islamic militants with ties to Osama bin Laden were arrested in Yemen on June 19, 2001 when their plot to bomb the sovereign territory of the US embassy in Sana was discovered,

Nineteen Islamic militants, 15 of whom were Saudis, hijacked 4 American commercial airliners on September 11, 2001 and crashed two of them into the World Trade Center Towers in New York, one into the Pentagon in Washington DC and one, planned to be crashed into either the White House or Congress, into an empty field in Pennsylvania. Over 3100 Americans were killed,

The first of 5 deaths and 18 infections from a well coordinated Anthrax attack on the United States, initiated through the US mails using letters containing anti American Islamic messages, occurred on October 5, 2001,

An Islamic suicide bomber attempted to explode a shoe bomb aboard an American Airlines flight en route to Miami on December 22, 2001.


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Re: Multiple explosions rock London [Re: lonestar2004]
    #4379194 - 07/07/05 09:25 AM (18 years, 8 months ago)

Yea sure, all terrorists are muslims. And all criminals are black too?

Give me a break, racists.

Columbine? Oklahoma? Iraq war?

I predict no one gets caught and tried for this. Just like 9/11 and madrid

And simply posting someone elses editorial isn't going to convince me of anything.


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Re: Multiple explosions rock London [Re: lonestar2004]
    #4379201 - 07/07/05 09:27 AM (18 years, 8 months ago)

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All Muslims Are Not Terrorists, But All Terrorists Are Muslim



WRONG.


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Re: Multiple explosions rock London [Re: lonestar2004]
    #4379204 - 07/07/05 09:28 AM (18 years, 8 months ago)

But All Terrorists Are Muslim

Apparently the author has forgotten about Oklahoma City, the Japan subway gas attack, the FLQ, ect, ect, ect... :rolleyes:


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Re: Multiple explosions rock London [Re: trendal]
    #4379215 - 07/07/05 09:35 AM (18 years, 8 months ago)

"I predict no one gets caught and tried for this. Just like 9/11 and madrid"




http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/4094688.stm


Police arrested suspects in raids across Spain


Spanish police have arrested 16 people suspected of having links to Islamic terror groups.

Five of the suspects were held for alleged involvement in the Madrid train bombings of March 2004.


The other 11 men are thought to have links to Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, the Jordanian militant spearheading the insurgency in Iraq


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Re: Multiple explosions rock London [Re: lonestar2004]
    #4379222 - 07/07/05 09:40 AM (18 years, 8 months ago)

Statement claiming London attacks"



http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4660391.stm



The BBC has located an Islamist website that has published a 200-word statement issued by an organisation saying it carried out the London bombings. The organisation calls itself the Secret Organisation Group of al-Qaeda [literally the base] of Jihad Organisation in Europe.

The group not previously been heard of.

The website has previously carried statements purporting to be from al-Qaeda. It is not possible to verify such claims published on the web.

This is the full text of the statement.

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In the name of God, the merciful, the compassionate, may peace be upon the cheerful one and undaunted fighter, Prophet Muhammad, God's peace be upon him.

Nation of Islam and Arab nation: Rejoice for it is time to take revenge against the British Zionist Crusader government in retaliation for the massacres Britain is committing in Iraq and Afghanistan. The heroic mujahideen have carried out a blessed raid in London. Britain is now burning with fear, terror and panic in its northern, southern, eastern, and western quarters.

We have repeatedly warned the British Government and people. We have fulfilled our promise and carried out our blessed military raid in Britain after our mujahideen exerted strenuous efforts over a long period of time to ensure the success of the raid.

We continue to warn the governments of Denmark and Italy and all the Crusader governments that they will be punished in the same way if they do not withdraw their troops from Iraq and Afghanistan. He who warns is excused.

God says: "You who believe: If ye will aid (the cause of) Allah, He will aid you, and plant your feet firmly."


The BBC has located an Islamist website that has published a 200-word statement issued by an organisation saying it carried out the London bombings. The organisation calls itself the Secret Organisation Group of al-Qaeda [literally the base] of Jihad Organisation in Europe.

The group not previously been heard of.

The website has previously carried statements purporting to be from al-Qaeda. It is not possible to verify such claims published on the web.

This is the full text of the statement.

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In the name of God, the merciful, the compassionate, may peace be upon the cheerful one and undaunted fighter, Prophet Muhammad, God's peace be upon him.

Nation of Islam and Arab nation: Rejoice for it is time to take revenge against the British Zionist Crusader government in retaliation for the massacres Britain is committing in Iraq and Afghanistan. The heroic mujahideen have carried out a blessed raid in London. Britain is now burning with fear, terror and panic in its northern, southern, eastern, and western quarters.

We have repeatedly warned the British Government and people. We have fulfilled our promise and carried out our blessed military raid in Britain after our mujahideen exerted strenuous efforts over a long period of time to ensure the success of the raid.

We continue to warn the governments of Denmark and Italy and all the Crusader governments that they will be punished in the same way if they do not withdraw their troops from Iraq and Afghanistan. He who warns is excused.

God says: "You who believe: If ye will aid (the cause of) Allah, He will aid you, and plant your feet firmly."


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Re: Multiple explosions rock London [Re: lonestar2004]
    #4379229 - 07/07/05 09:42 AM (18 years, 8 months ago)

Well I agree with these barbarians. We should withdraw all coalition personnel (both military and civilian) from both countries.

and just start using small nukes on them.


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Re: Multiple explosions rock London [Re: lonestar2004]
    #4379248 - 07/07/05 09:53 AM (18 years, 8 months ago)

Anyone can post on a website.

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Re: Multiple explosions rock London [Re: Rose]
    #4379318 - 07/07/05 10:26 AM (18 years, 8 months ago)

I wonder how long it will be until the numbnuts on this site claim it was the United States who bombed London....I give it a day or two, tops.


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Re: Multiple explosions rock London [Re: snoopaloop53]
    #4379374 - 07/07/05 10:43 AM (18 years, 8 months ago)

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Sounds like more of those peace loving muslims at it again. I guess trying to understand them and talking to them really is working to make the world a better place. They've probably just misunderstood.






What! When? The majority of our talking goes on at the end of a gun!

Not that I give a feck about it, I'm English and angry today.

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Re: Multiple explosions rock London [Re: lonestar2004]
    #4379383 - 07/07/05 10:47 AM (18 years, 8 months ago)

I really hate that picture lonestar.

All I can say is if thats true I'll have died fighting it.

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Re: Multiple explosions rock London [Re: HarryFlashmanVC]
    #4379393 - 07/07/05 10:49 AM (18 years, 8 months ago)

Each terrorist attack in the U.S or Britain should erase a smidgeon of distinction between terrorists and muslims.


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Re: Multiple explosions rock London [Re: HarryFlashmanVC]
    #4379426 - 07/07/05 10:58 AM (18 years, 8 months ago)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/2252361.stm

the picture came from this article from BBC news.


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Re: Multiple explosions rock London [Re: lonestar2004]
    #4379438 - 07/07/05 11:04 AM (18 years, 8 months ago)

What a bunch of utter cnuts.

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Re: Multiple explosions rock London [Re: lonestar2004]
    #4379447 - 07/07/05 11:06 AM (18 years, 8 months ago)

The Islamic statement sounds fair enough. We've butchered more than enough muslims lately. They could launch an attack every day for the next year and we'd still be way ahead in the killing innocent civilians stakes.

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Re: Multiple explosions rock London [Re: IsaacHunt]
    #4379458 - 07/07/05 11:10 AM (18 years, 8 months ago)

Fuck yea, we intentionally target civilians, fuck yeah, we rule...


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Re: Multiple explosions rock London [Re: IsaacHunt]
    #4379465 - 07/07/05 11:15 AM (18 years, 8 months ago)

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The Islamic statement sounds fair enough. We've butchered more than enough muslims lately. They could launch an attack every day for the next year and we'd still be way ahead in the killing innocent civilians stakes.




So you support the muslims attacking western countries? We've killed muslims lately because they attacked us first and we have finally had enough and are fighting back. Why do you hate western culture so much?

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Re: Multiple explosions rock London [Re: Innvertigo]
    #4379487 - 07/07/05 11:20 AM (18 years, 8 months ago)

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Innvertigo said:
I wonder how long it will be until the numbnuts on this site claim it was the United States who bombed London....I give it a day or two, tops.





:lol: I wondered the exact same thing, or rather when they would blame a governmental conspiracy.  It was just a few hours:
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/4379328#Post4379328


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Re: Multiple explosions rock London [Re: Tao]
    #4379498 - 07/07/05 11:23 AM (18 years, 8 months ago)

He hates western culture because he adores Ward Churchill.


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Re: Multiple explosions rock London [Re: IsaacHunt]
    #4379509 - 07/07/05 11:29 AM (18 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

IsaacHunt said:
The Islamic statement sounds fair enough. We've butchered more than enough muslims lately. They could launch an attack every day for the next year and we'd still be way ahead in the killing innocent civilians stakes.




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Re: Multiple explosions rock London [Re: J4S0N]
    #4379557 - 07/07/05 11:42 AM (18 years, 8 months ago)

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J4S0N said:
I see Muslims are taking the rap for this one so far. Because of a website posting that claimed responsibility. Wow, doesn't take much these days.



No, it sure doesn't. Are you retarded? Who the fuck else did it ? Are you trying to find some way to BlameBush? Maybe NeoCons? did it!
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Who has something to gain? I bet the National ID card will have no problem getting accepted now.




Who has something to gain? the freakin terrorsts! this is what they do! Do you think that the attacks in Israel the past 50 years were done by the j00z?
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We need some real justice. Chasing around these invisible muslims that claim responsibility for everything doesn't seem to be stopping terrorism.



Um, what do you suggest? bombing Africa? Maybe we could just arbitrarily pick a target

"Well sir, it's bus bombings, the typical fare of Arab terrorists, they claimed responsibility, but I think it's a ruse, lets bomb Paris! that'll show 'em!"


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Re: Multiple explosions rock London [Re: IsaacHunt]
    #4379563 - 07/07/05 11:44 AM (18 years, 8 months ago)

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IsaacHunt said:
The Islamic statement sounds fair enough. We've butchered more than enough muslims lately. They could launch an attack every day for the next year and we'd still be way ahead in the killing innocent civilians stakes.




just remember when you support the terrorists, that muslim fundamentalists and liberals are polar opposites - two very sick and extremist societies that share a common philosophy of hatred, violence, and anarchy.


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Re: Multiple explosions rock London [Re: IsaacHunt]
    #4379564 - 07/07/05 11:44 AM (18 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

IsaacHunt said:
The Islamic statement sounds fair enough. We've butchered more than enough muslims lately. They could launch an attack every day for the next year and we'd still be way ahead in the killing innocent civilians stakes.




Is their some website that the America-Haters pull their ignorance off of ? When Muslim extremists hide in schools and get bombed, all we hear about is the evil of the US to attack them, when they attack us, all we hear about it, yup, you guessed it, how it's our fault. Dont be a pussy.


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Re: Multiple explosions rock London [Re: SoopaX]
    #4379600 - 07/07/05 11:59 AM (18 years, 8 months ago)

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Maybe we could just arbitrarily pick a target




You mean like Iraq? Oops. Too late.


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Re: Multiple explosions rock London [Re: SoopaX]
    #4379607 - 07/07/05 12:02 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

Sites like this:

http://www.iraqbodycount.net/

Oh and they're not just numbers, this is what they are:
http://www.einswine.com/atrocities/iraq/?D=3&page=1

Enjoy ego tripping on that.

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Re: Multiple explosions rock London [Re: unbeliever]
    #4379622 - 07/07/05 12:06 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

HAHAAHHA U G0T M# HAHAHHAHA U R TEH SMART! ROFL!!! LMAO!! HAHAHAHAHAHA


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Re: Multiple explosions rock London [Re: unbeliever]
    #4379640 - 07/07/05 12:16 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

With each terrorist attack, a smidgeon of distinction erases between western and middle-eastern way of life.


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Re: Multiple explosions rock London [Re: Sycronica]
    #4379647 - 07/07/05 12:19 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

Not really.

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Re: Multiple explosions rock London [Re: StrandedVoyager]
    #4379778 - 07/07/05 12:55 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

Are you replying to me? If so, your reply makes no sense in context to mine.

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Re: Multiple explosions rock London [Re: Rose]
    #4379876 - 07/07/05 01:15 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

Much love and to our London shroomerites.

Blair has wasted no time assigning blame. Let's hope he's right.


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Re: Multiple explosions rock London [Re: lonestar2004]
    #4379894 - 07/07/05 01:19 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

just remember when you support the terrorists

I'm not supporting terrorists. I'm merely pointing out the obvious and undeniable fact that a lot more muslim civilians have been butchered over the last few years than western civilians.

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Re: Multiple explosions rock London [Re: Rose]
    #4379910 - 07/07/05 01:24 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

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wow look religous conseratives strike again...just another example of how religous conservatives are making life shittier for the rest of us...our religous conservatives just wanna take away our rights, censor and take us to war...over there, those guys wanna censor people, take away rights and goto holy war.... i think i viable solution is to get rid of ALL religous conservatives. who's with me?




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Re: Multiple explosions rock London [Re: KingOftheThing]
    #4379956 - 07/07/05 01:38 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

Did you see that Southarpk where the whore was pssing blood, so she put a tampon in her piss hole? Hah, I don't know why you always remind me of that. Weird.... anyway... yea, religious conservatives are nuts, but Islamo-s are nuttier.


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Re: Multiple explosions rock London [Re: SoopaX]
    #4379968 - 07/07/05 01:41 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

i wouldnt say they are nuttier, they believe in just as crazy shit as the christians do...in fact jesus is the most quoted profit in the quran

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Re: Multiple explosions rock London [Re: KingOftheThing]
    #4379981 - 07/07/05 01:43 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

Dude, I don't nkow if you think I'm some jesus banger or what, but I think that most christians should be fed to lions. Attacking them as a side-attack to me just doesn't work.

On a side note, what zodiac sign would I be if today was my birthday? Oh, hah, right, cancer! like a tumor! hahaha


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Re: Multiple explosions rock London [Re: Rose]
    #4380001 - 07/07/05 01:50 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

This is sad. But if things like this turn you in to a racist, you've lost.

The people that did this don't see much difference between this and all the civilians in Iraq that have died. And really I can not blame them for that lack of distinction.

What I can blame them for is being shitty human beings. Targeting civilians is deplorable.

I wonder how many brown people will die because of this. Don't these people know there are stupid 'KILL EM ALL' cowboy fucks leading the US and the UK? And that this will just justify more death, maybe that's what they want.

I guess I just don't understand war at all.

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Re: Multiple explosions rock London [Re: looner2]
    #4380023 - 07/07/05 01:55 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

looner2 said:
Each terrorist attack in the U.S or Britain should erase a smidgeon of distinction between terrorists and muslims.




You say that like it is your desire. Like you really are out to exterminate all Muslims, and you need to make them into terrorists to justify yourself; maybe even to yourself.

It seems that is almost what this entire war on terror is about, putting a big wall up there...and it doesn't matter what you are really like, there is no freedom, only judgement and killing.

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Re: Multiple explosions rock London [Re: CJay]
    #4380033 - 07/07/05 02:00 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

Was that a free psychoanalysis? Thank you, I'll write it down in my journal.


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Re: Multiple explosions rock London [Re: looner2]
    #4380071 - 07/07/05 02:12 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

No it was just a statement that you and those of your mindset are genocidal trigger happy ya-hoos who desire to create terrorists.

You can take it as psychoanalysis as a bonus if you like, since you obviously did.

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Re: Multiple explosions rock London [Re: looner2]
    #4380075 - 07/07/05 02:14 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

around 40 dead and another 1000 injured on the way to work. the worst attack on London since Hitler attacked it.

and people are crying about Jesus, cowboys, and republicans killing brown people.


Wake the fuck up...Islamics do what they do best: attempt to plunge the world back into the dark ages.

and on a side note FUCK JESUS. why do you libs always have to bring him up???


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Re: Multiple explosions rock London [Re: CJay]
    #4380093 - 07/07/05 02:20 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

EDIT: THIS WAS MEANT TO BE DIRECTED AT LOONER2



"We know that these people act in the name of Islam but we also know that the vast and overwhelming majority of Muslims here and abroad are decent and law-abiding people who abhor those who do this every bit as much as we do," Tony Blair 7.7.5

Look even Teflon Tony respects Muslims. Amazing, but I think it may be because a lot of Muslims live in Britain (and I mean A LOT), and they are normal good hearted people.

You probably live in hicksville, hickland, the stix county and have never met someone from another culture. Bet u just get out the.22 or something bigger....as big as you can get! and go out shootin up vermin and bottles and just a whoopin and a hollerin! Yee-hah! Bring on the gaaawd damnnn Muslims!

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Re: Multiple explosions rock London [Re: lonestar2004]
    #4380101 - 07/07/05 02:24 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

London has been being attacked by terrorists on a regular basis since before I was alive.

This war was folly when it was launched...the War on Terror and its Middle East conquest category are doing nothing but opening up sores.

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Re: Multiple explosions rock London [Re: lonestar2004]
    #4380126 - 07/07/05 02:33 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

Well, to some of us, people are people, no matter what the skin color.

The people in the middle east that will die because of this have NO LESS VALUE in my head then the people that are dead in London currently. ((As I am sure the governments of the US and UK are hard at work making sure that this is justifcation to conquer the rest of the Middle East; I fail to understand why these people play into there hands.))

I know you don't feel the same way about human life. Racism is just sad.

By polarizing a group of people out to be sub-human in you're head, you're doing the same thing as the people you hate.

That's how they justify killing people, on both sides. Racism, fear, and polarization. It's a sad cycle that I will take no part in.

O well, I digress.

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Re: Multiple explosions rock London [Re: CJay]
    #4380129 - 07/07/05 02:34 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

I apologize CJay, my post about muslims being terrorists was wrong and shouldn't have been said. I know there is a difference.


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Re: Multiple explosions rock London [Re: CJay]
    #4380139 - 07/07/05 02:36 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

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London has been being attacked by terrorists on a regular basis since before I was alive.





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Re: Multiple explosions rock London [Re: Anisotropic]
    #4380196 - 07/07/05 02:47 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

is there ever a time you get tired of playing the race card?


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Re: Multiple explosions rock London [Re: lonestar2004]
    #4380202 - 07/07/05 02:47 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

For fucks sake people, come on. Let's not do this. I spent the morning watching the coverage over that the house next door because I don't have a TV. They're all from Pakistan. All students over here on visas. All Islamic. They were more upset than I was!

I'm not defending Islamic fundamentalism. I hate all religions equally. I'm definitely not trying to damper what happened today or say that the perpetrators shouldn't be mercilessly hunted down. They absolutely should be! By why should roughly one sixth of the world's population pay for what happened today? This was a crime by individuals. Simple as that. Those individuals need to be caught as soon as possible, tried and never shown the light of day again.


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Re: Multiple explosions rock London [Re: lonestar2004]
    #4380234 - 07/07/05 02:54 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

"playing the race card"
Wow, nice cliche, that totally invalidates my point!

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Re: Multiple explosions rock London [Re: lonestar2004]
    #4380408 - 07/07/05 03:32 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

Have you heard of the IRA??? Their 30 year campaign? Have you heard of Gidaffi?? Have you heard of the Iranian embassy seige?

Attacks come quite regularly I can tell you

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Re: Multiple explosions rock London [Re: looner2]
    #4380414 - 07/07/05 03:33 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

no worries dude, but I do think you are right to reconsider things.

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Re: Multiple explosions rock London [Re: CJay]
    #4380623 - 07/07/05 04:32 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

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Have you heard of the IRA???




Yes. Now where was it they used to get large amounts of money to run a campaign of terror in Britain?

Can any of our American brethren guess the answer?

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Re: Multiple explosions rock London [Re: HarryFlashmanVC]
    #4380631 - 07/07/05 04:36 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

The Boston Red Sox!


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Re: Multiple explosions rock London [Re: Gijith]
    #4380690 - 07/07/05 04:55 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

7th of the 7th, 7 years till 2012 - just after the olympics are announced for london. gee i wonder whos going down come 2012?

0 7 / 0 7 / 2 + 0 + 0 + 5 = 7

watch the stockmarkets go down, the financial collapse has probably begun

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Re: Multiple explosions rock London [Re: CJay]
    #4380724 - 07/07/05 05:04 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

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CJay said:
London has been being attacked by terrorists on a regular basis since before I was alive.





















I forgot about the IRA attacking London on a regular basis.


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Re: Multiple explosions rock London [Re: faslimy]
    #4380777 - 07/07/05 05:23 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

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0 7 / 0 7 / 2 + 0 + 0 + 5 = 7




WTF?


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Re: Multiple explosions rock London [Re: John]
    #4380800 - 07/07/05 05:32 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

they are numbers

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Re: Multiple explosions rock London [Re: faslimy]
    #4380810 - 07/07/05 05:35 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

yea, they don't make any sense tho, just like the rest of your post.

FYI

07/07/2+0+0+5

or written correctly 7/7/2+5

=5.5


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Re: Multiple explosions rock London [Re: John]
    #4380940 - 07/07/05 06:06 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

heres some more numbers

Pope JPII elected pope 10/16/78 died 04/03/05 (Babylon time) his reign was 9666 days. Pope JPII death 04/03/05(Babylon time) til the British election 05/05/05 was 33 days.( Just a side note about Pope JPII death date 04/03/05. WTC attack 09/11/01 til the Popes death 04/03/05 (babylon time) 1300 days. 09/11/01 til British election 1333 days. This number 1333 days has showed up in the past Germany declared war on the U.S.A in 12/11/41 (GMT) the U.S.A dropped the A-bomb on Hiroshima in 08/05/45(GMT) duration 1333 days. I decided to look at some some future dates and see what the numbers say. If we take todays event in London 07/07/05 and plug in 06/06/06 the duration is 333 days. If we take 06/06/06 and 11/11/11 we get 1984 DAYS

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^^I'm with stupid^^ [Re: faslimy]
    #4381050 - 07/07/05 06:37 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

i soooooooooooooooooooooo hope you're joking...

some reason i doubt it though...


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Re: ^^I'm with stupid^^ [Re: John]
    #4381103 - 07/07/05 06:51 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

i'm just quoting numbers, i didn't figure them out myself

jeez i must be stupid eh?

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Re: ^^I'm with stupid^^ [Re: Rose]
    #4381531 - 07/07/05 08:39 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

Just a thought:

The attack was obviously timed to coincide with G8. IMO, there was also some corrolation between the timing of the bombing and the olympic announcement. Did these terrorists, whoever they are, also have plans to set off bombs in Paris or Moscow or New York? Hmmm. Alright, maybe not a very important question. But I do wonder.


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Re: ^^I'm with stupid^^ [Re: Gijith]
    #4381687 - 07/07/05 09:29 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

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The attack was obviously timed to coincide with G8.




That's not obvious at all. I'd say it's more likely it was timed to coincide with the opening of the trial of old "Captain Hook" of the infamous Finsbury Mosque.



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Re: ^^I'm with stupid^^ [Re: Phred]
    #4381749 - 07/07/05 09:50 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

Oh yeah, I totally forgot about the Abu Hamza guy. Hey, three infidel birds with one stone.


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Re: ^^I'm with stupid^^ [Re: Phred]
    #4381759 - 07/07/05 09:53 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

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The attack was obviously timed to coincide with G8.




That's not obvious at all. I'd say it's more likely it was timed to coincide with the opening of the trial of old "Captain Hook" of the infamous Finsbury Mosque.

Phred




Well... more likely than... say... the Olympics... IMHO... :smirk:


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Re: Multiple explosions rock London [Re: Anisotropic]
    #4381868 - 07/07/05 10:36 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

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Anisotropic said:

I wonder how many brown people will die because of this. Don't these people know there are stupid 'KILL EM ALL' cowboy fucks leading the US and the UK?








they know.




It's a-comin!

Three strangers strike up a conversation in the airport passenger lounge in Bozeman, Montana, awaiting their flights.

One is an American Indian passing through from Lame Deer... another is a Cowboy on his way to Billings for a livestock show and the third passenger is a fundamentalist Arab student, newly arrived at Montana State University from the Middle East.

Their discussion drifts to their diverse cultures.

Soon, the two Westerners learn that the Arab is a devout, radical Muslim and the conversation falls into an uneasy lull.

The cowboy leans back in his chair, crosses his boots on a magazinetable and tips his big sweat-stained hat forward over his face.

The wind outside is blowing tumbleweeds around, and the old windsock is flapping; but still no plane comes.

Finally, the American Indian clears his throat and softly he speaks, At one time here, my people were many, but sadly, now we are few."

The Muslim student raises an eyebrow and leans forward, "Once my people were few," he sneers, "and now we are many. Why do you suppose that is?"

The Montana cowboy shifts his toothpick to one side of his mouth and from the darkness beneath his Stetson says in a drawl...

"That's 'cause we ain't played Cowboys and Muslims yet, but I do believe it's a-comin'."


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Re: Multiple explosions rock London [Re: lonestar2004]
    #4381935 - 07/07/05 11:01 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

Bush later gives the "Axis of Evil" speech, citing Iran, Iraq, And North Korea. Dems whine about including North Korea in the "Axis".

The term "axis" implies an alliance between these countries of which there is none.  :rolleyes:

Since that speech, France and Canada have been added to the list.


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Re: Multiple explosions rock London [Re: Swami]
    #4382027 - 07/07/05 11:22 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

You are confusing "Axis of Weasels" with "Axis of Evil".



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Re: Multiple explosions rock London [Re: J4S0N]
    #4382853 - 07/08/05 03:53 AM (18 years, 8 months ago)

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Who has something to gain? I bet the National ID card will have no problem getting accepted now.
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This will be an interesting one, it could even count against ID cards if they find the terrorists were in the UK using legitimate identification. ID card or another 20,000 coppers?

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Re: Multiple explosions rock London [Re: Gijith]
    #4382866 - 07/08/05 04:18 AM (18 years, 8 months ago)

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Much love and to our London shroomerites.

Blair has wasted no time assigning blame. Let's hope he's right.





Blair knows that an anti-Muslim reaction is exactly what these terrorist want. They want to alienate Muslims around the world, create division, foster resentment and hatred to aid recruitment to their sick cause. London has a large Muslim population.

I think, and hope, you will see a calm reaction from the Brits, while no single attack has been near the scale of 9/11, Britain has lived with terrorism since before I was born. I have been close to two IRA attacks, one in my home town in '91. Luckily the IRA screwed up and the only victims were the two bombers, who were scattered over the town center and a few near by gardens. And and the Baltic Exchange bomb in the City in '92.

The reaction has been mostly the same, you can't let them win, change your life out of fear and you let them win. British politicians know this, for example the terror alert level in the UK is a not a very closely guarded secret, rather than something flashing on the news every day.

Gljith, I think between our two countries Londoners and New Yorkers are probably the most alike.

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Re: Multiple explosions rock London [Re: psilomonkey]
    #4382895 - 07/08/05 04:44 AM (18 years, 8 months ago)

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an anti-Muslim reaction is exactly what these terrorist want. They want to alienate Muslims around the world, create division, foster resentment and hatred to aid recruitment to their sick cause. London has a large Muslim population.




Yes - division is key to achieving their aims...and judging by the reactions and views so easily held by some (as evidenced in this thread) that can be easy to achieve; especially when government propaganda does little or nothing to clarify definitions.

However Londoners live in a highly integrated cosmopolitan society and will not be divided. Londoners are happy living together, and today is no different. The creed and the colour and the name don't matter.

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Re: Multiple explosions rock London [Re: psilomonkey]
    #4383314 - 07/08/05 09:36 AM (18 years, 8 months ago)

Calm resolution

This week's disgusting attack on London will naturally be seized upon by politicians of all hues to advance their various agendas. Opponents of the war in Iraq have lost no time in blaming Tony Blair and British engagement for the bombs that hit London and killed dozen and injured many hundreds. They have a point. As the Butler report revealed, the Government was explicitly warned before the Iraq war that our involvement would exacerbate the risk of terrorism in this country. But that does not for one moment mean that if Britain had not been involved in Iraq, then London would have been safe. It bears repeating that more British people died in the attacks on the World Trade Centre than in yesterday's brutal outrages, and it must never be forgotten that 9/11 preceded the war in Iraq and the war in Afghanistan, as did the series of vicious Islamicist bombings in Paris in the 1990s.

Which is to say that we in London, Paris, New York and the rest of the civilised West face a terrorist threat which cannot be said wholly to have been provoked by Iraq. These are people whose hatred of what they see as Western values is seemingly ineradicable. It is impossible to negotiate with them. Their grievance is not just with the war in Iraq or with the treatment of Palestinians by Israel but with the whole system of Western values that they find troubling and disturbing, not least the emancipation of women.

We must tackle the terrorist threat with calm resolution and without recourse to wild or hysterical measures. Yet the Government will now seize on this event with no less vigour than their opponents to campaign for a series of repressive and illiberal measures of doubtful utility in the so-called war on terror. Prime among these is the compulsory ID card. It must be stressed that whatever the merits or demerits of an ID card system, it would have done absolutely nothing to prevent the horrors of yesterday. As with the 19 suicide killers of 9/11 the problem was of intention and not identity.

In the coming days and weeks the public will urged to accept such restrictions on their liberty as ID cards as a price we must all pay for liberty itself. We believe that argument to be absurd and fallacious, and hope that defenders of liberty will recognise that it is exactly this kind of panic-stricken measure that will most gratify the killers.

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Re: Multiple explosions rock London [Re: Phred]
    #4383432 - 07/08/05 10:18 AM (18 years, 8 months ago)

Very well said there by the Spectator. The spectator is a very strongly conservative (small c) publication.

The British reaction to such attacks tends to be very conservative and resolute, weakness will not be shown.
I don't think it will change anything regarding Iraq.

This is an area the Government is going to have to tread very carefully, widespread public opposition to ID cards, for which the home secretary has already admitted would not have helped in this case. Along with the war in Iraq, and almost inevitable tax rises to come, will loose public support.

If anything I think it will strengthen the pro-war camp. Anti-war campaigners will have to be extremely care full not to be presented as the tuck-tail-and-run campaign now.

Although its 4 years to the next election, its the long game that counts.

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Re: Multiple explosions rock London [Re: HarryFlashmanVC]
    #4386626 - 07/09/05 11:17 AM (18 years, 8 months ago)

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Have you heard of the IRA???




Yes. Now where was it they used to get large amounts of money to run a campaign of terror in Britain?

Can any of our American brethren guess the answer?




Yes and the US government refused to acknowledge the fact for many years, turning a blind eye and therin supporting the IRA. A huge swathe of the US population were supporting terrorism and funding as well as supplying arms to terrorists. Not only that these terrorists were attacking the USA's closest ally! The US government cares not, even for its closest allies as long as the dollars are rolling in. Now here they are, and here all those US people who supported the IRA are, spouting on about the injustices of terrorism. Hypocracy of the highest order. What a world.

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Re: Multiple explosions rock London [Re: CJay]
    #4390191 - 07/10/05 04:35 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

Indeed, If any good came out of the horrific events of 9/11, it formed the political will in worlds only superpower, America to fight terrorism. I noticed Sinn Fein ran a mile from the terrorist shit after 9/11, they knew, one terrorist attack with their name on it, they were fucked. Peace process is going a lot better now, thanks.

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