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Poisoness Pan subb lookalikes?
    #4375906 - 07/06/05 03:47 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

I know there are many Panaeolus subbalteatus lookalikes but are any poisoness and will send one to the hospital?


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Re: Poisoness Pan subb lookalikes? [Re: PlasticFantastic]
    #4375967 - 07/06/05 04:07 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

Maybe the deadly galerina. Be sure you know what one looks like. Its often listed as a lookalike in books allthough I dont think it looks to much like a subb.


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Re: Poisoness Pan subb lookalikes? [Re: mastacheefa]
    #4376056 - 07/06/05 04:39 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

Thanks for the heads up, but what exact species of galerina?


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Re: Poisoness Pan subb lookalikes? [Re: PlasticFantastic]
    #4376481 - 07/06/05 06:13 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

Galerina autumnalis, the deadly Galerina
http://botit.botany.wisc.edu/toms_fungi/may2003.html


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Re: Poisoness Pan subb lookalikes? [Re: mattymonkey]
    #4376964 - 07/06/05 08:01 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

heh just make sure the gills are very very dark and jet black spore print , JET black , foes have dark brown spore print but not poisonous , the thinner stemmed variety usually grow in well fertilized grass , in pastures they will have thicker stems


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Re: Poisoness Pan subb lookalikes? [Re: PSiFr33k]
    #4377561 - 07/06/05 10:51 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

I think you were referring to Panaeolus Subbalteatus.


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Re: Poisoness Pan subb lookalikes? [Re: CptnGarden]
    #4377661 - 07/06/05 11:19 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

If your looking for Pan Subbs, i doubt you will have to worry about galerina autumnalis. There habitats are completely different, and in my opinion, they look nothing like each other.


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Re: Poisoness Pan subb lookalikes? [Re: DepthToTheCore]
    #4377906 - 07/07/05 12:22 AM (11 years, 5 months ago)

If he's looking for Panaeolus subbalteatus, the habitat is similar enough that he may find Galerina marginata, a deadly species. Inocybe is also a genus which can crop in the same areas (it just happens to be mycorrhizal with the nearby trees instead of saprophytic), and Inocybe species have caused fatalities in Europe.

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Re: Poisoness Pan subb lookalikes? [Re: ToxicMan]
    #4378903 - 07/07/05 07:33 AM (11 years, 5 months ago)

Yes I am looking for Panaeolus subbalteatus and I don't know why I spelt it like that. Thanks for the heads up, I'll keep my eyes peeled.


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Re: Poisoness Pan subb lookalikes? [Re: PlasticFantastic]
    #4379150 - 07/07/05 10:59 AM (11 years, 5 months ago)

The "Girdled Panaeolus", Panaeolus subbalteatus, has no poisonous look-alikes. As long as you are sure what pan subs look like, there should be no problems. There are look-alikes, mainly psathyrella foenisecii, which is a common lawn mushroom (and edible), and panaeolus acuminatus, which is similiar but more of a reddish-brown and won't bruise blue. I think it is non-edible, but non-poisonous. Just not an edible mushroom that you would want to eat.


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Re: Poisoness Pan subb lookalikes? [Re: myndreach]
    #4380322 - 07/07/05 05:09 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

most subbs dont bruise blue anyways, and if they do its only usualy on the mycelium coated base of the stem. and I see alot of people (sadly) confuse psathyrella gracilis for subbs too, they arent poisonous by my book but they are nothing i would suggest consuming.


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