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Casing WBS in 50/50 verm/moss a bad idea?
    #4374639 - 07/06/05 03:57 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

i read somewhere that casing WBS in a 50/50 mix was a bad idea and gave small fruits and low yields. any truth to this? cause i was planning this setup for my next grow.

if it is true, whats a good casing for WBS? (not quite ready try poo mind you)


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Re: Casing WBS in 50/50 verm/moss a bad idea? [Re: Vhal]
    #4374647 - 07/06/05 04:02 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

The casing isn't responsible for small yields, the substrate content and depth is. WBS is a weak choice for a straight fruiter. 50/50 will work fine for casing WBS.


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Re: Casing WBS in 50/50 verm/moss a bad idea? [Re: Vhal]
    #4374653 - 07/06/05 04:08 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Combo of WBS & rye (50/50) is far better than WBS alone - as substrate.


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Re: Casing WBS in 50/50 verm/moss a bad idea? [Re: Vhal]
    #4374684 - 07/06/05 04:29 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

This was my latest off WBS + peat.



Wouldn't really call those small yields :lol:


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Re: Casing WBS in 50/50 verm/moss a bad idea? [Re: kronnyQ]
    #4374742 - 07/06/05 05:04 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

cool, thanks for the replies. im more then likely going to try straight WBS and 50/50 for experience purposes. after that ill experiment a bit and try agars suggestion of rye and wbs.

just waiting for my PF cakes to finish colonizing before i start my casing grow. some are coming along really well, and others are going really really slow >=/ like 3 of the 6 are almost completely covered on the outside. the other 3 have a few dime size sploches of myc below the inoculation holes.

anyways, thanks again =D


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Re: Casing WBS in 50/50 verm/moss a bad idea? [Re: Vhal]
    #4374897 - 07/06/05 08:47 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

I've done hundreds of bags of WBS and have to agree it certainly does not promote prolific flushes but overall they all produced some good weight over the course of 5-6 flushes on average. Also many larger than nomal fruits (40-50+ gm. wet ea.). I have always loved rye as far as grains are concerned but WBS is still workable and real cheap.


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Re: Casing WBS in 50/50 verm/moss a bad idea? [Re: Vhal]
    #4377322 - 07/06/05 09:26 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

1 lb wbs = 1 oz dry approx. in 2-3 flushes. ALA magash rye tek.

I get 4 lbs for a dollar at walmart, 24 hours a day, 6 days a week.


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Re: Casing WBS in 50/50 verm/moss a bad idea? [Re: EonTan]
    #4377409 - 07/06/05 09:58 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Only 6 a week? your getting ripped off man, mine is open on X-Mas, its a real christian led company ya know? I probably sound like a real newbie when i ask this but what is WBS?


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Re: Casing WBS in 50/50 verm/moss a bad idea? [Re: Cub_Mycologist]
    #4377430 - 07/06/05 10:04 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Wild Bird Seed.

I got this from casing 1 pint of straight WBS.

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Re: Casing WBS in 50/50 verm/moss a bad idea? [Re: Shred]
    #4378414 - 07/07/05 03:00 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah, dude, casing WBS with 50/50 gives you real low yields. Look at the super low yields in these pictures:



Whoever told you that is an idiot.


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Re: Casing WBS in 50/50 verm/moss a bad idea? [Re: Holydiver]
    #4952022 - 11/18/05 04:33 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

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  WBS is a weak choice for a straight fruiter. 




I have to disagree with you Holydiver.
It is an excellent choice for a straight cased grain. If you prepare it right.

Straight Cased Wild Bird Seed

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Re: Casing WBS in 50/50 verm/moss a bad idea? [Re: Blue Helix]
    #4952107 - 11/18/05 04:58 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Low yields?? man those look great to me man


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Re: Casing WBS in 50/50 verm/moss a bad idea? [Re: agar]
    #5154644 - 01/08/06 04:29 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

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agar said:
Combo of WBS & rye (50/50) is far better than WBS alone - as substrate.




hey agar, I was planning on going with just white millet. You think I should pick up some rye, too?


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Re: Casing WBS in 50/50 verm/moss a bad idea? [Re: doc34]
    #5154768 - 01/08/06 05:07 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

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I have to disagree with you Holydiver.
It is an excellent choice for a straight cased grain. If you prepare it right.




IMO, I think part the reason you had good results is because of the nutes in the coir. You used 100% coir as your casing - I'm wondering if you'd get those results if you used peat/verm.


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Re: Casing WBS in 50/50 verm/moss a bad idea? [Re: Sillicybin]
    #5155584 - 01/08/06 08:26 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Sure. I've seen plenty of nice crops with cased grains. Even with peat moss as a casing layer. A casing layer with the proper moisture content will support the flush as it's supposed to...


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Re: Casing WBS in 50/50 verm/moss a bad idea? [Re: jmg5]
    #5155913 - 01/08/06 09:36 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

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Combo of WBS & rye (50/50) is far better than WBS alone - as substrate.




hey agar, I was planning on going with just white millet. You think I should pick up some rye, too?




oh, and when you say far better, you mean in terms of potency, yield, and speed of colonization right? I guess i'll be experimenting with some grain jars. I'll do some with just millet, some with just rye, and some with millet + rye. If I see any significant differences I'll let ya guys know.


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Re: Casing WBS in 50/50 verm/moss a bad idea? [Re: Sillicybin]
    #5157532 - 01/09/06 09:29 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

There are no/very little nutes in straight coir, and I have been having the same results for over 4 years now. I use nothing but straight wbs/coir.
I also had the same results when I used straight verm-no nutes at all,lol.
You will get bigger and better flushes if you step up to poo/straw, but straight wbs casings can/will produce consistent flushes if prepared properly.

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