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Casings; Peat, Coir or both?
    #4373322 - 07/05/05 09:02 PM (12 years, 18 days ago)

Just curious what do you use and why?
What is your casing preference?
You may choose only one
I use peat based casings.
I use coir based casings.
I utilize both to optimize my casings.


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Re: Casings; Peat, Coir or both? [Re: hyphae]
    #4373338 - 07/05/05 09:06 PM (12 years, 18 days ago)

I am trying to use peat now.. over coir. I haven't had much success yet, but I'll figure it out eventually, with some help of course.

Edit: because I just want to use a "real" non nutritious casing layer as I feel it will help me more in the long run.


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Re: Casings; Peat, Coir or both? [Re: hyphae]
    #4373339 - 07/05/05 09:06 PM (12 years, 18 days ago)

I prefer PH adjusted peat based casings because my luck with coir has been very limited. Coir based casings always tend to colonize unnaturally fast and send my timing way out of sync. Also, straight verm works very well despite what people will say about it. I'd take straight verm over a coir based casing any day.


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Re: Casings; Peat, Coir or both? [Re: hyphae]
    #4373341 - 07/05/05 09:09 PM (12 years, 18 days ago)

Actually, I use verm. based casings,lol. I voted for what I add to the verm.

Coir. Which I use for ease and the fact I started casings when I was a newb and haven't moved on to a peat, verm. and coir yet.

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Re: Casings; Peat, Coir or both? [Re: HippieChick]
    #4373380 - 07/05/05 09:20 PM (12 years, 18 days ago)

Sorry for not adding that choice it's just that I've yet to see a prolific straight verm flush.


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Re: Casings; Peat, Coir or both? [Re: hyphae]
    #4373401 - 07/05/05 09:28 PM (12 years, 18 days ago)

My casing is 60% verm, 40% coir with oyster shell. Verm. based

My next will be 45% verm, 45% peat, 10% coir. Still kinda verm. based.

That's all I was pointing out. A lot of casings are actually verm. based,lol.

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Re: Casings; Peat, Coir or both? [Re: HippieChick]
    #4373407 - 07/05/05 09:31 PM (12 years, 18 days ago)

All I've ever seen :wink: LOL


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Oyster Shell "Flour" $2 for 1lb. a hell of a deal :wink:
Not what is overlay but rather what overlay is
Gas Exchange vs. FAE

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Re: Casings; Peat, Coir or both? [Re: hyphae]
    #4373449 - 07/05/05 09:45 PM (12 years, 18 days ago)

Quote:

hyphae said:
Sorry for not adding that choice it's just that I've yet to see a prolific straight verm flush.




IMO, straight verm has does have one noticeable advantage over regular casing mixes, that being that harvesting does MUCH less damage to the casing layer, promoting primordia formation in the same spots for successive flushes. Just speaking from my experience, straight verm can really rock if used correctly.

A few of my straight verm results:



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Re: Casings; Peat, Coir or both? [Re: Holydiver]
    #4373520 - 07/05/05 10:10 PM (12 years, 18 days ago)

i use a 50/50 verm and coir for the simple fact i havent moved to peat,but i get great results with this ratio and have never had a prob.with overlay and the moisture aspects of coir is great!!!!and i use no buffer and can get 4 to 5 flushes if i would like but to me anything over three is a waste of time!!!MPO :thumbup:and whats up hippie?


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Re: Casings; Peat, Coir or both? [Re: hyphae]
    #4373537 - 07/05/05 10:13 PM (12 years, 18 days ago)

I was surprised to see most using what I use. I didn't like straight verm.
Actually, I like jiffy mix. It's so easy to get and it's cheap. This time around, I used it straight OI has the surface absolutely covered with pins right now. Actually I forgot to add calcium carbonate  :crazy: so I consider myself lucky on that. I'll get some pics up.


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Re: Casings; Peat, Coir or both? [Re: sludge]
    #4373567 - 07/05/05 10:20 PM (12 years, 18 days ago)

Just keeping busy,lol. I use the 60/40 and am quite happy also. I have tried a 70/30 coir verm and it did overlay a bit. That was my point, I wouldn't recommend a coir "based" layer. More coir than verm can lead to overlay. At least that's what I've seen in my limited experiences with it.

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Thanks for the vote Sludge. :grin:
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Re: Casings; Peat, Coir or both? [Re: LouiseLouise]
    #4373576 - 07/05/05 10:23 PM (12 years, 18 days ago)

Where would be a good place to try besides Wally World ? For some reason the one's in my town don't carry it and I'd like to try it. Thanks.

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Re: Casings; Peat, Coir or both? [Re: HippieChick]
    #4373582 - 07/05/05 10:26 PM (12 years, 18 days ago)

Man, I was all confident in my casing 'till this thread, now I'm worried. I hope they turn out ok (go to full term) I added jiffy mix straight as a filler in a container, and it's flushing good right now. I'll take pics and keep a log on this so others can see if there is a difference.

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Re: Casings; Peat, Coir or both? [Re: HippieChick]
    #4373583 - 07/05/05 10:26 PM (12 years, 18 days ago)

Verm. is great like Diver pointed out.

I like peat a lot thought...

Both seem to werk well if you do everything correctly..

But when you do something correctly, it always werks best - Kinf of.

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Re: Casings; Peat, Coir or both? [Re: HippieChick]
    #4373592 - 07/05/05 10:28 PM (12 years, 18 days ago)

I get it at wally world. I think it's real common tho, prolly any garden store.

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Re: Casings; Peat, Coir or both? [Re: IGnosticAbhorI]
    #4373627 - 07/05/05 10:39 PM (12 years, 18 days ago)

A peat casing should always have verm too :wink: I've also noticed when using coir/verm the ratio should be in verms favor example; 40/60, 30/70 coir/verm. Has anyone else tried this? Gnostic I hear what your sayin :wink:


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Re: Casings; Peat, Coir or both? [Re: hyphae]
    #4373661 - 07/05/05 10:49 PM (12 years, 18 days ago)

K, I'm back and I'm a little more relaxed after checkin' them again, but, man, I almost made a booboo.

Straight Jiffy mix (peat, verm and perlite):

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What'dya think? I like it.
O, that's cow :poop: cased with Jiffy.
For the n00bs, see the white dots? That's primordia, it will be pins very soon (matter of hours)

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Re: Casings; Peat, Coir or both? [Re: LouiseLouise]
    #4373697 - 07/05/05 10:56 PM (12 years, 18 days ago)

Me too! Nice job :wink:


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Re: Casings; Peat, Coir or both? [Re: hyphae]
    #4373708 - 07/05/05 10:58 PM (12 years, 18 days ago)

TY Hyphae, after all, I learned it from you  :tongue2:


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Re: Casings; Peat, Coir or both? [Re: LouiseLouise]
    #4374073 - 07/06/05 12:49 AM (12 years, 18 days ago)

45%peat/45%verm/10%coir is pretty cool..


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