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Passion Flower & Shrooms
    #4372495 - 07/05/05 04:35 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

So, I found some red passion flower growing @ this botanical garden near my house. Im thinking of picking some for my next shroom trip. I can surely identify it (there is a sign that says its red passion flower) But, I need to know, how much should I take to get a somewhat sedative and relaxing effect. Im going to take it with shrooms, because I hear the MAOI's in it make you have a longer and takes the edge off your trip because your sedated and you arent so anxious. Advice?


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Re: Passion Flower & Shrooms [Re: KidgardFromSRQ]
    #4372632 - 07/05/05 05:21 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

MAOIs greatly intensify a trip.


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Re: Passion Flower & Shrooms [Re: gdman]
    #4372653 - 07/05/05 05:25 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

always been interested in trying some MAOIs but never have gotten around to it......

report back,if you do...

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Re: Passion Flower & Shrooms [Re: CaptainH13]
    #4372676 - 07/05/05 05:34 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

Well, Im going to do it. But first I need to know how much to dose on. Cant you OD on passion flower?


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Re: Passion Flower & Shrooms [Re: KidgardFromSRQ]
    #4372705 - 07/05/05 05:47 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

They are also tricky because there are certain foods and drugs you should not consume while using MAO-is.


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Re: Passion Flower & Shrooms [Re: gdman]
    #4374874 - 07/06/05 08:29 AM (11 years, 5 months ago)

also, even the "good" Passiflora species are pretty low in harmala-alkaloids, & often have other, less pleasant stuff in them (C=N)as well... not too bad in the teaspoon or tablespoon amount teas, but to get a decent amount of harmine, harmaline, etc. you will have to make a tea from _several ounces_ (say 100 grams!) of the dried herbiage...

syrian rue (seed or root) is a much cheaper source per "dose", but may also have some undesirable stuff in it (but is easy to doe a quality extract from the seeds)...

caapi vine (& leaf) is the "traditional" source...

i think www.erowid.org had a gracie & zarkov analysis of the the 3 major harmala-stuff plants...
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rough guesstimates of total alkaloids:
syrian rue seeds = 5%
caapi vine = 0.5%
passionflower herb = 0.05%

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& recommended amount of harmala-stuff to be ingested for _full_ MAO inhibition is ~ 150 millgrams...
(but much less can be "felt" to have an effect on other trip-stuffs, like shrooms or lsd or even cactus...)

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