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Offlinejcldragon
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Points of View
    #4372448 - 07/05/05 04:17 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

The Ego, being a focal point of Consciousness in the Material World, must neccesarily have its own point of view, (otherwise how could it relate to what's going on?). Each Ego develops a World View, and a set of attitudes, which color perception, and channel how the Ego will interpret & react to events happening around it.

Depending upon how Enlightened a person happens to be, this world view will correspond (or not) to what is actually happening. It can happen that a person's World View may be so far afield from reality, that it is unable to actually relate to things as they are, but instead, the person relates to things solely upon their own beliefs of what is going on, and is for all practical purposes, totally in their own head.

I'm sure you've seen this happen. It's difficult not to notice when somebody is so bound by their beliefs, that they can only relate to them, and not truly see you at all. Pretty frustrating, too, isn't it?

Now I am not *exactly* what you could call a mainstream thinker. I began studying & practicing both Eastern & Western Metaphysics & Occultism in 1967, when I was 16.... enough time so that I might actually know something about this stuff, as a matter of working knowledge. One of the major themes of this sort of thinking, is that our thoughts, beliefs, and world view actually have considerable effect upon the conditions that occur around us.

Generally this notion is only taken to the point of saying that we gravitate conditions into our lives that correspond with how we view our relationship with the Universe. So if you think negatively, you will miss opportunities, while if you think positively, all sorts of wonderful things can happen. They say that "Thoughts are things", and it is most certainly true that every discovery began with an observation, and that every invention, began with an idea.

Obviously, I believe this to be true. But I would like to take this just a step further, and show you a bit of how what is called Magick actually operates. You see, our preconceptions not only shape how we interpret what is going on around us, but they also affect the behavior of the people we deal with. It is like our attitudes put a sort of Spell upon people. If you hold an attitude about somebody, you sort of make it difficult for that person to behave much differently than how you concieve of them.

I think the extent of this subtle effect is proportional to how closely it matches things going on inside that individual. If a person's attitude about somebody else is hopelessly colored by their own hopes & fears, it's not going to mesh very well. However, if the attitude has some basis in reality, then it will attach to some degree, and bring out that quality in that individual. So if you expect somebody to be difficult, or angry, you really are making it rather difficult for them to behave in any different way around you.

Ah... but here's the Key. If you observe carefully, you will discover what the best qualities actually exist in somebody you deal with on a regular basis. Then, if you make the effort to think about them as being their best self, you can actually draw those inherent good qualities out in them. Try it! Have you got anything to lose? hehehe


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Re: Points of View [Re: jcldragon]
    #4372675 - 07/05/05 05:34 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

""The Ego, being a focal point of Consciousness in the Material World, must neccesarily have its own point of view, (otherwise how could it relate to what's going on?)""

by sharing?

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Re: Points of View [Re: jcldragon]
    #4372723 - 07/05/05 05:53 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

same age I guess
same process, more or less.
we might have something in common.

how bout this stretch for your ego-world-view.

i.e. it is a race to wrap the world with this view before the rolling ego system is is subsumed by the next personality matrix. you have 3 seconds now, go!

you get 3 seconds to wrap this world with your view, then you reboot into the next context.


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Re: Points of View [Re: jcldragon]
    #4372754 - 07/05/05 06:04 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

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jcldragon said:
Generally this notion is only taken to the point of saying that we gravitate conditions into our lives that correspond with how we view our relationship with the Universe. So if you think negatively, you will miss opportunities, while if you think positively, all sorts of wonderful things can happen. They say that "Thoughts are things", and it is most certainly true that every discovery began with an observation, and that every invention, began with an idea.




YES!  I have experienced this in my life to such an extent that I would not be able to deny it if I wanted to!

I would also add that our "filters" of perception, as well as the direction of our attention, correspond to and validate our chosen point of view about our experiences.

The combination of energetic "magnetism" of postive or negative thinking and the constant self-validation of what we notice creates what we believe to be unchangeable reality.

The social experiments I have carried out in this area have taught me so much about myself as the creator of my experience!  I believe I am only seeing the tip of the iceberg, and even that much leaves me in awe.
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Re: Points of View [Re: redgreenvines]
    #4372840 - 07/05/05 06:29 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

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redgreenvines said:
how bout this stretch for your ego-world-view.

i.e. it is a race to wrap the world with this view before the rolling ego system is is subsumed by the next personality matrix. you have 3 seconds now, go!

you get 3 seconds to wrap this world with your view, then you reboot into the next context.




Nietzsche's Overman: " constantly changing and in a state of rebirth and growth"

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Re: Points of View [Re: jcldragon]
    #4373201 - 07/05/05 08:28 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

The perspective of Nietche's Overman may very well have contributed to his breakdown; and yet the horrors of "man's inhumanity to man" could generate such a World View, as jcldragon has speculated.

Yeats Second Coming written in 1919 & inspired by the first world war I suppose, contains the 'blank and pitiless' aspects of Nietche's Overman:

"...somewhere in sands of the desert
A shape with lion body and the head of a man,
A gaze blank and pitiless as the sun,
Is moving its slow thighs, while all about it
Reel shadows of the indignant desert birds.
The darkness drops again; but now I know
That twenty centuries of stony sleep
Were vexed to nightmare by a rocking cradle,
And what rough beast, its hour come round at laSt,
Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?"


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