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Re: stuck in the subconscious [Re: dorkus]
    #4371943 - 07/05/05 12:59 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

I didn't take that pic, but yes, it possibly is from Denmark.

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Re: stuck in the subconscious [Re: MAIA]
    #4371955 - 07/05/05 01:03 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

It is from Christiania. That is a promise.


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Re: stuck in the subconscious [Re: redgreenvines]
    #4371964 - 07/05/05 01:10 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

Hmmm. What does that mean in reality? How does it apply to life?

Doing a search on mucous i found this:
mucous membrane
Thin skin lining all animal body cavities and canals that come into contact with the air (for example, eyelids, breathing and digestive passages, genital tract). It contains goblet cells that secrete mucus, a moistening, lubricating, and protective fluid. In the air passages mucus captures dust and bacteria. In the gut it helps food slip along, and protects the epithelial cells from being damaged by digestive enzymes. Mucous membranes line the air passages from the mouth to the lungs and to the gut. The layer of cells next to the space in the tubes is an epithelium. In the air passages many of these cells


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Re: stuck in the subconscious [Re: dorkus]
    #4371979 - 07/05/05 01:17 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

interfacing, yeah!
and it probably has a localized electronic nature as well, so it could be a substrate for signal conduction, and modulation.

in the real world, that we seem to know everything about but hardly pay any attention to, mucous is very heavy.


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Re: stuck in the subconscious [Re: MAIA]
    #4372041 - 07/05/05 01:41 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

maia that is a great picture of cannabis products,
but the link goes to a spanish porn site

now I have lost a colleague here at work that I showed the image to
I think he is looking at the fat ones. it is literally a bum steer.

is there a real link on the web that explains that photo?


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Re: stuck in the subconscious [Re: redgreenvines]
    #4372126 - 07/05/05 02:08 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

Christiania is a social experiment with self-government and a democracy based on dialogue replacing majority voting. Christiania was started in an abandoned army baracks in Copenhagen, Denmark, in 1971. The current government is not particularly sympathetic with the aims and achievements of Christiania, since soft drugs have been part of the experience.

http://goeurope.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?site=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.christiania.org%2F

A couple of years back there used to be a street called "Pusher Street" in Christiania. That is were the picture is taken from. The street was full of these tables, and the place was always full of sky high tourists. Even the dogs in this place had red eyes and hung around stoned. :lol: Man, I loved chilling at that place. They even sold mushrooms for a while.

As you study the different hash-labels you can see "Huset's maroc" down in the right corner. That is danish for "The house's maroc", also Kroner (Kr - prize) is the norwegian, swedish and danish monetary system. One dollar ($) is approx 8/9 danish kroner,  and the prized varied from 40-90 kr pr gram depending on quality.

Hmmm, nuff rambling, I am trying to stay sober goddammit :lol:


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Re: stuck in the subconscious [Re: redgreenvines]
    #4372174 - 07/05/05 02:21 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

Damn !!!! You mean feias.com ?!?!

LOL, i got that pic from a friend of mine through email. I had already noticed the link on the pic but i never checked it.

Btw, that's portuguese :grin: and "feias" means "ugly women". Not so ugly though ...

Anyway, that picture is excellent in terms of variety... there are shrooms too :wink:


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Re: stuck in the subconscious [Re: MAIA]
    #4372238 - 07/05/05 02:51 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

Thanks for the Christiania info dr_mandelbrot. I already knew about it after watching a couple of documentaries on TV. That place looks sweet ...

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Re: stuck in the subconscious [Re: chucksteak]
    #4389289 - 07/10/05 09:48 AM (16 years, 6 months ago)

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chucksteak said:
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Gomp said:
"The tissue of Life"


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so that explains why life sucks. god is blowing his nose and wiping his ass with this "tissue of life" :P




tis?sue  Audio pronunciation of "tissue" ( P )  Pronunciation Key  (tsh)
n.

  1. A fine, very thin fabric, such as gauze.
  2. Tissue paper.
  3. A soft, absorbent piece of paper used as toilet paper, a handkerchief, or a towel.
  4. An interwoven or interrelated number of things; a web; a network: ?The text is a tissue of mocking echoes? (Richard M. Kain).
  5. Biology. An aggregation of morphologically similar cells and associated intercellular matter acting together to perform one or more specific functions in the body. There are four basic types of tissue: muscle, nerve, epidermal, and connective.

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Re: stuck in the subconscious [Re: dorkus]
    #4402020 - 07/14/05 02:10 AM (16 years, 6 months ago)

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dr_mandelbrot said:
Is it possible to "live in the subconscious"? I have a very "real" feeling of transmitting thoughts to the people around me, and also am picking up on others'. The synchronicity level is terrifying, and I really will not admit to all the wonders being co-incidents.

Do you have experiences with telepathy?



Sometimes it seems like I can effect other people's moods by how I feel. I can't transmit anything specific, but it seems like my energy levels effect the energy of others. I've experienced this many times in a powerful way. Part of me doesn't know what to think. Part of me knows that this is reality.

I seem to have a more powerful prescense than most other people. When I'm in the zone and I'm really experiencing an exchange of energy, it seems like everyone is my puppet. The amount of control I seem to have really amazes me. I wouldn't beleive that I actually had this ability if I hadn't had really exacting experiences with it. Others react to me down to the millisecond. It's kindof annoying because I'm about to say something, but the very moment that I go to open my mouth, somebody else says something and I lose what I was about to say. Stuff like happens to me often. Sometimes I will look at other people and it's BAM! I know they feel me. I know it by the look on their face. One time I was sitting at a table having an off-and-on conversation with 5 other people. Things were going slowly and it felt a little akward. So I decided to stare at the table and just chill out for a moment. I ended up not talking for a little over a minute. I strongly suspect that everyone else at that table, sitting their quietly with me, not moving, not saying a thing, was experiencing the same feeling that I was. It was like time stopped and I felt an incredible energy flowing through me. I went into that moment with a clouded mind and came out with perfect clarity. I raised my head to see the girl across from me raising her head, as if she was waking up in the same way. We decided to leave soon after and the girl says "Ok. I'm just sitting and staring at the table anyways." Maybe everyone's energy all came together and we all experienced a moment of zen? I don't know. Sometimes people will be stuck on what they're going to say, and I'll switch from listening/observer mode into active mode, about to say something to continue what they were saying, and they'll go right on talking at that instant.

So many coincidences have made telepathy a reality to me. I walked past 2 guys sitting at a table, giving them a quick glance as I passed by. Then I hear one of the guys say "Do you beleive in PSP?" That guy was looking right at me as I glanced at him. Even in groups it seems like I effect the mood/energy of everyone. Sometimes I will walk into a room and it goes dead silent. It seems like I can change the focus of a conversation when I'm with others who are talking together.

I'll stop trying to explain why I beleive in telepathy now. My argument kind of loses it's effect when you're not there with me experiencing all of this stuff first hand.

I'd like to hear anything that anyone has to say about this.


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Re: stuck in the subconscious [Re: The_Hobbit]
    #4402232 - 07/14/05 03:27 AM (16 years, 6 months ago)

dr_mandelbrot, yeah it feels like the truman show or something?

edit: there is red hot chilli peppers song where he sings something like "ever wonder if its allll for yoouuuuuu??"


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Re: stuck in the subconscious [Re: The_Hobbit]
    #4402530 - 07/14/05 07:57 AM (16 years, 6 months ago)

I'd like to hear anything that anyone has to say about this.
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Can you say, Magical thinking? :wink:


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Re: stuck in the subconscious [Re: The_Hobbit]
    #4404353 - 07/14/05 05:23 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

hobbit:

spooky. you are describing it perfectly. everything down to the very last detail i've experienced. it won't stop now that i'm sobering up either.

it feels like i am the center of the universe. the only center, that all of you are my dream characters.

i live a sort of repressed thought-life because i don't want to offend people, so it becomes a very hard internal struggle to clear up my mind space, and i end up punishing myself for critizing others because i feel like i am constantly putting them down and they can feel it, or pick up on it, or i am pushing onto them, making me too intense. i know i should accept all thoughts, but when i feel it putting others down, it is harder. then i answer those thoughts with really bad, offensive thoughts about myself in case they pick it all up, so they can feel better bout themselves.  this makes me want to spend more time alone, where i cannot hurt other than myself. it has occasionally lead me to consider suicide just because i feel like an annoying self-centered, arrogant transmitter.

each time this has been going on i start punishing myself for trying to manipulate reality, but it is like a gliding switch, it comes sneaking.

i have thought of that movie the truman show often, even to the extent of considering ending it all just to deny those fuckers (what fuckers?) the pleasure. but it might be me.

why won't wise beings explain this shit? what's up with the hush? i allow you to spoil my fun.

Also often it is like i just blurt out alot of shit that hits my mind, and it is like i am picking it from their subconscious, or field, and with no ill intentions i might hurt them, or scare them, because i hit secret nails on the head.  :confused:


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Re: stuck in the subconscious [Re: dorkus]
    #4404397 - 07/14/05 05:35 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

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why won't wise beings explain this shit? what's up with the hush?




Have you considered that you ARE the wise being you are waiting to hear from? 

Perhaps there is no "because" to any of what you are experiencing.  I am beginning to believe that the experience itself is the goal...the journey is the trip, not the destination.

Relax into it, let it be what it is, let yourself be what you are.  Live and love the questions, because there may not be any answers.

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Re: stuck in the subconscious [Re: Veritas]
    #4404417 - 07/14/05 05:37 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

I love your sig Veritas. :heart:


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Re: stuck in the subconscious [Re: dorkus]
    #4405141 - 07/14/05 09:06 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

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Icelander said:
Can you say, Magical thinking? :wink:



It may be. I'm not 100% sure that what I'm experiencing is really some kind of energy/emotion exchange (telepathy). Maybe it's coincidence.

I definitely lean towards beleiving it, though. I can't explain it, but the coincidences are too often and too real not to be true. We're all made of the same stuff. We all have electricity running through us. Why is it hard to beleive that my energy could somehow effect yours?

I feel like the guy in the movie Powder. =D

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hobbit:

spooky. you are describing it perfectly. everything down to the very last detail i've experienced. it won't stop now that i'm sobering up either.

it feels like i am the center of the universe. the only center, that all of you are my dream characters.



That's not true, though. You're the center of yourself only. Other people are their own selves. Being able to effect them and them being their for you are two completely different things.

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i live a sort of repressed thought-life because i don't want to offend people, so it becomes a very hard internal struggle to clear up my mind space, and i end up punishing myself for critizing others because i feel like i am constantly putting them down and they can feel it, or pick up on it, or i am pushing onto them, making me too intense. i know i should accept all thoughts, but when i feel it putting others down, it is harder. then i answer those thoughts with really bad, offensive thoughts about myself in case they pick it all up, so they can feel better bout themselves.  this makes me want to spend more time alone, where i cannot hurt other than myself. it has occasionally lead me to consider suicide just because i feel like an annoying self-centered, arrogant transmitter.




That's messed up, dude. Don't get lost in illogical mind games like that. So you disagree with your friends, who cares. That's called being an individual. =) If they are really your friends, they can accept that you have a different opinion.

If someone says something and you disagree, then comment on that. Do it in a nice way. Give your opinion as constructive criticism - not arguing. Debating ideals is good stuff.

An example is:

Girl - "I'm fat."
You - "No you're not."

That's bad. You're telling your friend that she is wrong.

Girl - "I'm fat."
You - "I don't think you're fat." *smile*

That's good. That's showing your opinion in a non-offensive way.

Either share your opinion or don't. Don't bring yourself down in your head because you think differently. If anything, that will make you depressed, which can only bring others down.

You are their friend. They're your friend because they like your company. As long as you stay inside your head and provide an opinion from your perspective, you can't go wrong. Just remember that every situation is gentle. Take time to experience the moment and act on your instinct. If you're coming from a gentleman's perspective, your opinion will (hopefully) always be welcome.

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each time this has been going on i start punishing myself for trying to manipulate reality, but it is like a gliding switch, it comes sneaking.



You have to do what feels right. Don't actively seek to manipulate things for no reason. You have to flow with the moment. So you see that 2 of your friends are having a conversation that is going shitty. Pay attention to them. Let yourself get lost in what they're saying. Don't sit there like a zombie not feeling anything. Let yourself go and experience it. Hmmm.. the conversation seems to be going smoother now, doesn't it? Who you're paying attention to is the one who feels entitled and inspired to talk. What a coincidence, huh? =)

Don't manipulate for the sake of manipulation. Intention and purpose are what matter. Like I said, you have to flow with everything so that your energy works with the situation. Remember what Bruce Lee said, "Be like da wata."

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1.) i have thought of that movie the truman show often, even to the extent of considering ending it all just to deny those fuckers (what fuckers?) the pleasure. but it might be me.

2.) why won't wise beings explain this shit? what's up with the hush? i allow you to spoil my fun.

3.) Also often it is like i just blurt out alot of shit that hits my mind, and it is like i am picking it from their subconscious, or field, and with no ill intentions i might hurt them, or scare them, because i hit secret nails on the head.  :confused:




1.) What pleasure? It seems like you're paranoid. Don't feel like you should have to do anything. Just be.

2.) Explain what? Why does anything need to be explained? Find your own answers.

The hush? Like when you're with other people and your mind seems to go blank and you can't possibly think a thought? I've felt that. I try to enjoy it. It's like meditating without trying. =) Just be, dude. Have fun regardless. Maybe you could end the silence if you would just let yourself flow (if that's what you're trying to do). I don't mind silence when it feels right. It's like your connecting with a serene energy that is everyone around you. If you accept it and give out good energy of your own, maybe you could make something great. Just remember that it's all up to you. You are god in a sense. You control everything.

3.) If that's the case, that seems like a good thing to me. You're able to connect with other people. Good. Connect. It's fun.


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Re: stuck in the subconscious [Re: The_Hobbit]
    #4405241 - 07/14/05 09:29 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

Nabhi Kriya to Set the Navel Center

The following set NABHI KRIYA was taught by Yogi Bhajan in 1971 and remains one of the classical sets to set the navel center.

Nabhi Kriya - Navel Power

Taught by Yogi Bhajan June 1971

(A) Lie on your back, arms by your side, palms down. Or hands under your buttocks to protect the small of your back. The small of the back is remain touching the floor during these exercises. Placing the hands under the buttocks helps make this possible.

Inhale as you lift your right leg up to 90 deg. or perpendicular to the ground. Exhale as you lower it. Inhale raise your right leg. Exhale lower it. Continue lifting alternate legs with deep, powerful breathing. The original directions were 10 minutes. Begin with 1-2 minutes. Stabilize your practice at 3-5 minutes and work up to 10 minutes if you can.

(B) Without pause, lift both legs up to 90 deg. on the inhale, and lower them on exhale. Arms are stretched straight up over the heart center, palms facing each other. Continue for 1-2 minutes and work up to 5 minutes.

(C) Bend your knees and clasp them to your chest with the arms below the knees. Press the small of your back to the ground. Allow your head to relax back. Rest in this position for 5 minutes. (No need to shorten this time :+)) Make sure you are warm enough.

(D) In the same position as ..3 inhale, open your arms straight out to the sides on the ground and extend your legs straight out at a 60 deg. angle above the ground. Exhale and return to original position. Repeat and continue for 1-3 minutes. This exercise was originally given for 15 minutes. Again work up to that amount of time if you can. (..3 and ..4 are known as Pavan Sodan Kriya.)

(E) On your back, bring your left knee to your chest, hold it there with both hands and rapidly raise the right leg up to 90 deg. and down. Inhale up. Exhale down for 1 minute. Switch legs and repeat for 1 minute. Repeat the complete cycle one more time.

(F) Stand up straight, raising arms overhead, hugging ears, and press fingers back so that palms face the sky/ceiling. Exhale as you bend forward from the navel center to touch the ground, (if you can) Keep the arms straight, hugging ears, and inhale up VERY SLOWLY with a long deep breath. On the exhale (as you bend forward and especially while you a fully forward, apply Mulbhanda or Root lock. Continue at a slow pace for 2 minutes, then more rapidly for 1 more minute.





(G) Totally relax or meditate for 10-15 minutes.




BENEFITS

This set focuses on developing the strength of the navel point and build a powerful base in the lower triangle (chakras 1, 2 and 3). The full times indicated are for advanced students. To begin practice, start with 1-5 minutes on the longer exercises. (1) is for lower digestive area. (2) is for upper digestion and solar plexus. (3) eliminates gas and relaxes the heart. (4) charges the magnetic field and opens the navel center. (5) sets the hips and lower spine. (6) is for the entire spine, unleashes spinal fluid and expands the aura. Together, these exercises get the abdominal area in shape quickly!


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Re: stuck in the subconscious [Re: The_Hobbit]
    #4405250 - 07/14/05 09:31 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

I definitely lean towards beleiving it, though. I can't explain it, but the coincidences are too often and too real not to be true. We're all made of the same stuff. We all have electricity running through us. Why is it hard to beleive that my energy could somehow effect yours?
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I never said that I don't believe your energy couldn't effect mine. But the way you descirbed your abilitys seemed like magical thinking to me. :mushroom2:


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Re: stuck in the subconscious [Re: AmbientTHIRDEYE]
    #4405375 - 07/14/05 09:53 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

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Nabhi Kriya to Set the Navel Center...



What does your post have to do with this thread?

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I never said that I don't believe your energy couldn't effect mine. But the way you descirbed your abilitys seemed like magical thinking to me. :mushroom2:



Elaborate.


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Re: stuck in the subconscious [Re: The_Hobbit]
    #4405755 - 07/14/05 11:05 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

When I'm in the zone and I'm really experiencing an exchange of energy, it seems like everyone is my puppet. The amount of control I seem to have really amazes me. Others react to me down to the millisecond.
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Especially the everyone is my puppet thing. :mushroom2:


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