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    #4369498 - 07/04/05 03:10 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

I have been struggling to free myself from a daily hash habit after smoking much too long. My daily self seems trapped in a sort of sleeping trance state, where fantasy and reality sort of blends, and critical/rational thinking almost seizes. It has led to some mystical experiences and much inner conversation with flowers and friends.

After getting a clearer understanding of the subconscious (Maslow, redgreenvines) I think this is were my awareness has sort of dropped into. It is like being stuck in the middle of all resonances, and I am unable to control my mindstuff when I am surrounded by sources of input. All things immediately when entering my mind sparks a myriad of resonances thus making reality much too subjective in nature. The world is talking to me constantly, and I am getting more "self-centered", thinking all is about me.

I went to a local concert this weekend after being off the drug for a week. After a some beers (i only drink a handful times a year) I fell into delusion of being a healing source and a sort of energetic transmitter heating up the crowd, and setting the tone/mood. The crowd went bananas. Afterwards I once again dropped down into hell, as always happens after these delusions of grandeur that I lull myself into.

Is it possible to "live in the subconscious"? I have a very "real" feeling of transmitting thoughts to the people around me, and also am picking up on others'. The synchronicity level is terrifying, and I really will not admit to all the wonders being co-incidents.

Afterwards at the party I met an old trip-brother who I haven't talked to in years. We shared some wonderful cosmic space journeys back then. We talked about my situation, and he implied that thinking too deep down might create these things, but that only few were able to decode the transmitted thoughtwaves thus picking up noise, or thoughts without meaning because of lack in context.

Do you have experiences with telepathy?

(PS; still staying off drugs, and will not risk further damage.)


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Re: stuck in the subconscious [Re: dorkus]
    #4369521 - 07/04/05 03:21 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

Energies are great, arent they? :smile:

Channeling the energies is the trick, and once you learn the trade, it is completely magical and uncontrollable.

Once you reach a certain high, you can always take yourself back through time travel, projection, meditation, spirit-walking, and energy focus and channeling.

As far as your hash addiction, use your telepathy to take you back there when ever you need the high.

More to come, distracted at moment... :smile:


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Re: stuck in the subconscious [Re: AbstractHarmonix]
    #4369556 - 07/04/05 03:42 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

to dr.:
I think, the more you will put your will into your decisions, the more the syncronicies will dissapear. At least, that was my experience, as I could not stand all those synconicities any more :smile:
It's healthy to find a good balance between ones inner and outer world. Simple said, but hard to practice.
Your (edit: manifested !) will, is what will make you out of syncronicity...

(But I love to think back about all the benefits of that state of mind...but am more frightened about the lost compability with the outer sociality those days. Led me to: What is useful about all this, if I can't share it with anyone ? -Nothing- So I am back :grin:)


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Edited by BlueCoyote (07/04/05 03:54 PM)


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Re: stuck in the subconscious [Re: dorkus]
    #4369669 - 07/04/05 04:42 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

you can't climb directly out of this habit, but you can spiral out gradually.

accepting what is happenning without judgement is both the path and the refuge from stress.

when you begin to compare and judge you are sliding into the unconscious, as your become more accustomed to accepting what is happenning as it happens, including your own discomforts, the good energy builds.

when things pass, and you let them go, there is less strain on your structure and energy.

you slide in and out of ballance with this (dance), naturally, some people will practice daily to improve the overall tuning of it.


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Re: stuck in the subconscious [Re: BlueCoyote]
    #4369682 - 07/04/05 04:50 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

re BlueCoyote

Hmmm, I have reached the same conclusion as of late, and am trying to return from this state now. 

Having read the "killed the observer" thread, then further investigated the link provided coupled with grounding pm-advice, I understand this is major distractions. Mindful observation without judgement and manipulation seem to be the only way to go for me. Thanks for the pull, everyone. :heart:

re Ares

Can you really travel in time, astral project etc?  That sounds very interesting and I would love to hear more about your view on these matters. Though it probably isn't for me.  :crazy: I don't have the stomach for it, and easily get lost in my own head. I need to keep on letting go letting go letting go :wink:


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Re: stuck in the subconscious [Re: redgreenvines]
    #4369688 - 07/04/05 04:53 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

Aaah, was making above post as you wrote. Thanks again, red :heart:


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Re: stuck in the subconscious [Re: redgreenvines]
    #4369775 - 07/04/05 05:30 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

Really good! :thumbup: :mushroom2:


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Re: stuck in the subconscious [Re: Icelander]
    #4369830 - 07/04/05 05:56 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

dr. mandelbrot:

I hope you will be able to stay off hash, i know it's kind of hard to do.

I have a friend who is very similar to the description that you give of yourself. He was the biggest hash smoker i've ever met. As his mental behavior was worrying me more and more, I told him that it would be a very good idea to stop smoking because i felt that his mind was extremely clouded with smoke, it was making it hard for him to clearly see things (metaphorically speaking). Basically he had a kind of "out of this world" attitude, a disconnected attitude. I told this to him on a serious note, and he understood what i was talking about.
Its been a year since he hasn't smoked, he says he has been feeling great ever since he stopped smoking, and that now, just the thought of hash is disgusting to him. He had a pretty accentuated neurosis type of thing when he was the regular stoner, but now it is clearly harder to make it out, to deduce it, its incredibly less noticeable.

Whatever you decide to do, moderation is key. But i'd suggest you at least try to completely stop for a month or two and see how you feel, I guarantee you will feel better.

Personally I'm sick of hash. Its so much heavier on the mind than weed. I'd say that psychologically, the negative effects of smoking are worse with hash than with weed.


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Re: stuck in the subconscious [Re: exclusive58]
    #4369842 - 07/04/05 06:04 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

Thank you for the advice. I will follow it :heart:


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Re: stuck in the subconscious [Re: dorkus]
    #4369854 - 07/04/05 06:12 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

Yes, for finding this (your) will, a 'balanced' handling of hash/weed/THC is obviously necessary :heart:


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Re: stuck in the subconscious [Re: BlueCoyote]
    #4369886 - 07/04/05 06:30 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

""Do you have experiences with telepathy?""

I must ask back.. dude..? how would "experiences# work without "telepathy" ? :wink:


Man I love the resent postings.. :smile:


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Re: stuck in the subconscious [Re: Gomp]
    #4371686 - 07/05/05 11:13 AM (11 years, 5 months ago)

You mean, as in we share a reality which deep down is our thought? The seed thougt being 'who am i' and everything else layered upon this seed.

So this would mean a fusion of tunnels, making a sort of shared highway collective space, or?

I have a feeling that tripping has led most of you guys onto a secret, or a sort of integrated understanding, that passes me by, and it hurts like hell.


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Re: stuck in the subconscious [Re: dorkus]
    #4371747 - 07/05/05 11:35 AM (11 years, 5 months ago)

"The tissue of Life"


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Re: stuck in the subconscious [Re: Gomp]
    #4371786 - 07/05/05 11:53 AM (11 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

Gomp said:
"The tissue of Life"


:smile:




so that explains why life sucks. god is blowing his nose and wiping his ass with this "tissue of life" :P


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Re: stuck in the subconscious [Re: dorkus]
    #4371799 - 07/05/05 11:59 AM (11 years, 5 months ago)

I agree for some people the best solution is to stop. But, there are so many different kinds of THC derivatives, that sometimes, what it takes is just changing the brand ...


I used to smoke hash, but i found out that pollen or charras don't put me on this "numb" state like hashish used to. This is my personal experience and it probably won't apply to many others, but believe me, i've tried them all and there are many differences. But anyway, like exclusive said, moderation is the key :smile:

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Re: stuck in the subconscious [Re: MAIA]
    #4371820 - 07/05/05 12:06 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

Mostly boiling hash over here, but nothing hurts my mind like good charas in the long run. Western Norway are soaked with great hash of wide variety.

That is why the quitting part is hard.

Btw that picture you posted, is it from Christiania Copenhagen? I used to love that place before the rightwinging fascists took charge in Denmark. Things have changed now :frown:


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Re: stuck in the subconscious [Re: Gomp]
    #4371828 - 07/05/05 12:09 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

So what is the tissue of life? Consciousness?


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Re: stuck in the subconscious [Re: dorkus]
    #4371850 - 07/05/05 12:18 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

I keep thinking mucous has a lot to do with it.


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Re: stuck in the subconscious [Re: redgreenvines]
    #4371873 - 07/05/05 12:28 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

So we are the genitals (shrooms) of a net below?


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Re: stuck in the subconscious [Re: dorkus]
    #4371894 - 07/05/05 12:36 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

yup


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