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OfflineMycoDorkus
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Fastest Colonizing cubie
    #436791 - 10/25/01 06:24 PM (22 years, 7 months ago)

Based on experience, those of you who have used the PF tek, which cubie strain colonizes fastest? lets get a vote going to i can tally em up and see what spores my friend's dog groomer should buy next.


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Re: Fastest Colonizing cubie [Re: MycoDorkus]
    #436802 - 10/25/01 06:30 PM (22 years, 7 months ago)

im bout to try out the thai ko samuri pink buffalo i hear these thai strains are the shit! :)

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OfflineDrAbeLincoln
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Re: Fastest Colonizing cubie [Re: MycoDorkus]
    #436803 - 10/25/01 06:32 PM (22 years, 7 months ago)

My monkeys uncle doesnt have much experience with many strains but the fastest that he has had have been the T3 strain...he also uses dark rye flour which seems to colonize much much faster then brown rice flour

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Re: Fastest Colonizing cubie [Re: DrAbeLincoln]
    #436808 - 10/25/01 06:36 PM (22 years, 7 months ago)

t3 are the fastest IMO... pink buffalo are fast too but i think the p.b. has shitty small fruit.. t3's are some nice tough looking shrooms.....

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Re: Fastest Colonizing cubie [Re: strang]
    #436814 - 10/25/01 06:41 PM (22 years, 7 months ago)

whats the full name of the t3?

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Re: Fastest Colonizing cubie [Re: strang]
    #436818 - 10/25/01 06:43 PM (22 years, 7 months ago)

the p.b. has shitty small fruit.. anyone else aggree on that? thatd suck :P

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Re: Fastest Colonizing cubie [Re: MycoDorkus]
    #436852 - 10/25/01 07:10 PM (22 years, 7 months ago)

How much experiance does the dog grommer have? Maybe he should try Pan. Cyans, or something similar. However Thai. K/S is pretty good.....for a cubie. I don't know about it's performance on cakes, but on my uncle's ass, he has about 78 pins growing very strong from being cased in dung!


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Re: Fastest Colonizing cubie [Re: MycoDorkus]
    #436932 - 10/25/01 08:17 PM (22 years, 7 months ago)

From what I hear Cambodians are very fast colonizers, but in the pinning/fruiting department it seems to be average.

Granted i'm trying to pin them in around 75 degree temperature (Rather than the 93 degrees i've heard they thrive), but i'm hoping they'll be allright.

Nothing bad has happened yet. They have been birthed since the 14th (11 days). Alittle mycelium reaching out into the air.

We'll see!


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Re: Fastest Colonizing cubie [Re: Abudiwa]
    #436968 - 10/25/01 08:52 PM (22 years, 7 months ago)

cambos are reputed to be the fastest - but they perform better at higher temps - Lipa yai are also quite fast, as are Puertos...


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Re: Fastest Colonizing cubie [Re: Zen Peddler]
    #437044 - 10/25/01 10:01 PM (22 years, 7 months ago)

the Z strain is the best.

it fully colonizes after 10 days. its amazing, and you should see the fruits on this strain!!!! oh my god!! AFOAF harvested a 64 gram shroom, its awesome.

with the Z strain, you cant go wrong

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Re: Fastest Colonizing cubie [Re: gaastra]
    #437053 - 10/25/01 10:14 PM (22 years, 7 months ago)

That Z- strain is the best by far. I inoculated a jar, and before I could put the tape on it was fully colonized!! One of the fruits was so big, I dropped it and it broke my toe!!


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InvisibleInsomnia
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Re: Fastest Colonizing cubie [Re: MycoDorkus]
    #437447 - 10/26/01 05:50 AM (22 years, 7 months ago)

The fact is, they're all similar, give or take a few days. It all boils down to your substrate, its consistency, your inoculation methods, and the environment in which the mycelia incubate.

If you want bigger fruits or bigger overall flushes, you grow on straw, compost, or dung. One 1/2 pint BRF cake will not have the nutritional power to crank out rows of 7" mushrooms.

Most of what you hear about colonization time, etc. is hype. Some Cubensis types will colonize a bit faster than others -- true -- but the fact is, you're getting a syringe or print with millions of spores. Some spores will germinate and have a tendency to progress slowly, while others will take off and jars or petris will finish off in a week vs. 3 weeks.

To me, consistency of colonization times is more essential than colonization speed.


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Re: Fastest Colonizing cubie [Re: Insomnia]
    #437454 - 10/26/01 06:09 AM (22 years, 7 months ago)

I agree with Insomnia. Genetics also come into play. I've grown B +'s that were dogs, then from another vendor, B +'s that had amazing vigor. It's a question that has no easy answer.

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Re: Fastest Colonizing cubie [Re: puscle]
    #437588 - 10/26/01 11:01 AM (22 years, 7 months ago)

Very true. Don't know why I didn't mention that. Unfortunately in mushroom cluture, it's not plausible to achieve hybrid vigor as you would in plants. So good options are to clone mushrooms and do tissue culture work, or grow crop after crop of multispore inoculations.

I happen to enjoy growing crop after crop :) so what I do is find the fruit(s) in each crop that represent the traits I like best.

I look for an even distribution (as even as possible) of the following traits in the fruits I take prints from:

1. Earliest fruiter;
2. Most aggressive fruiter;
3. Largest fruitbody;
4. Solid fruiter under different temperatures and Rh;
5. Solid fruiter on a variety of substrates.

So, at harvest time I pick and take prints from the mushroom(s) that fruit early, grow quickly and aggressively, stand taller and more dense than the rest of the flush, and demonstrate excellent and consistent colonization on a variety of media.

From that print, I again go through the process of multispore germination, slowly but surely maintaining the qualities I like while screening out the ones I don't. Meanwhile, I benefit each time from a wide genetic base from a multispore inoculation.

Welcome to my genetics ghetto.


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OfflineMycoDorkus
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Re: Fastest Colonizing cubie [Re: gaastra]
    #437653 - 10/26/01 12:30 PM (22 years, 7 months ago)

My friend's dog groomer has a year and a quarter of cultivation experience under his belt with cubies.


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Invisibledurban_poison
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Re: Fastest Colonizing cubie [Re: MycoDorkus]
    #437734 - 10/26/01 02:14 PM (22 years, 7 months ago)

Treasure coast are the fastest I have tried so far and amazonian seemed pretty fast

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Re: Fastest Colonizing cubie [Re: gaastra]
    #437739 - 10/26/01 02:22 PM (22 years, 7 months ago)

Where do you get these Z strain spores?


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Re: Fastest Colonizing cubie [Re: shitdog]
    #437745 - 10/26/01 02:33 PM (22 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: Fastest Colonizing cubie [Re: shitdog]
    #437901 - 10/26/01 05:22 PM (22 years, 7 months ago)

We may be carrying the Z strain soon.

Price will be a reasonable $100 per pair of spores. Because of their large size, I can only send them 2 at a time.

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Re: Fastest Colonizing cubie [Re: ]
    #437921 - 10/26/01 05:59 PM (22 years, 7 months ago)

"PAIR OF SPORES" hehehe you crack me up man!


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Re: Fastest Colonizing cubie [Re: zantac]
    #437964 - 10/26/01 07:08 PM (22 years, 7 months ago)

I remember back in college,me and a friend went out to the country to hunt for shrooms.We were out all night and sadly didnt find one mushroom.As we started heading back to the car we noticed something sticking out of a pile of timber.To both of our amazement,we realized that our night was succesful afterall.There underneath the pile of sticks was the most beautiful spore we had ever seen.It was the Z strain!! We dragged it to the car,tied it to the grill,and proudly diplayed our find all the way back home.It turned out to be a great day. When I reflect back on that day,all these years later,I realize that on that one delightful day,my friend and I truly saw life for what it was..........

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Re: Fastest Colonizing cubie [Re: ]
    #438017 - 10/26/01 08:50 PM (22 years, 7 months ago)

$100?? What a fucking ripoff!! Its just another cubie isnt it?? Ive found that thai strains are fast - but in general it seems that newer strains have less crappy genetics, so seem to give faster times, and less shape-changing fruits - do yourself a favour though - dont buy the z strain...


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    #438028 - 10/26/01 09:01 PM (22 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: Fastest Colonizing cubie [Re: ]
    #438050 - 10/26/01 09:32 PM (22 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: Fastest Colonizing cubie [Re: Zen Peddler]
    #438513 - 10/27/01 12:37 PM (22 years, 7 months ago)

$100 for Z strain spores is more than fair. how else can you get 1-2 ounces of dreid shrooms from 1 cake?

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Re: Fastest Colonizing cubie [Re: gaastra]
    #438920 - 10/27/01 10:57 PM (22 years, 7 months ago)

not by growing the z strain... Im sorry, but just because a vendor can isolate a few nice characteristics from an old spore race doesnt mean that it is worth $100


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Invisibledurban_poison
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Re: Fastest Colonizing cubie [Re: MycoDorkus]
    #438946 - 10/27/01 11:16 PM (22 years, 7 months ago)

I have the Z and its just like the treasure coast. Im sure they are the same.

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Re: Fastest Colonizing cubie [Re: gaastra]
    #438949 - 10/27/01 11:18 PM (22 years, 7 months ago)

Who is selling this z strain??


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Invisibledurban_poison
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Re: Fastest Colonizing cubie [Re: MycoDorkus]
    #438952 - 10/27/01 11:24 PM (22 years, 7 months ago)

Shane some con artist in marysville ohio his web site is www.sporetradingpost.com. I have met him in person and he isnt nearly as educated as you would think. He also boasts about these strains being from C.H.B labs in Austria. However he told me that CHB stood for Crack Head Bob some dude who makes his prints for him.

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Re: Fastest Colonizing cubie [Re: Zen Peddler]
    #439539 - 10/28/01 05:52 PM (22 years, 7 months ago)

Hmm... the way I recall his responce being worded he was offering to sell TWO SPORES for $100!!!

Ya, gotta admit... it shouldnt cost much for shipping TWO SPORES!

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Re: Fastest Colonizing cubie [Re: durban_poison]
    #439569 - 10/28/01 06:25 PM (22 years, 7 months ago)

I bet Crack Head Bob is just some dude who's conning the guy who's conning everyone who buys the "Z strain"

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Re: Fastest Colonizing cubie [Re: Cub]
    #439575 - 10/28/01 06:30 PM (22 years, 7 months ago)

if i remeber right, the XY Strain is growing directly out of my ass.... so lick my ass.
i'm selling ONE spore for, hmmm.... 125$ - just think, how hard it is for me to get the spores steril from there... .


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Re: Fastest Colonizing cubie [Re: Malice]
    #439698 - 10/28/01 07:47 PM (22 years, 7 months ago)

Z-Strain has the most gigantic fruit I've ever seen. The first time I ever saw one I was driving to my cabin through the woods and I suddenly crashed into this gigantic mushroom! It was at least two feet in diameter and had oxydized so fast it was a dark blue BEFORE my bumper even hit it. The spores, jolted by my car, began to fall from the open cap and busted through my windshield.

Anyone here play Mario Kart 64? There's one track where you see a gigantic (6' tall) amanita around the second turn, well that mofo ain't got NOTHING on a z-strain colonized with Keeper's brew and using Mr Trekkies magic vermiculite (see post by thor in Vendor)

Grover


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Re: Fastest Colonizing cubie [Re: Jammer]
    #439702 - 10/28/01 07:50 PM (22 years, 7 months ago)

Does anybody else get really slow col from B+. All this 10 day col is making me feel very bad.


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Re: Fastest Colonizing cubie [Re: FungusFarmer]
    #439734 - 10/28/01 08:04 PM (22 years, 7 months ago)

well said fungus farmer!

ROFLMAO

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Invisibledurban_poison
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Re: Fastest Colonizing cubie [Re: MycoDorkus]
    #439744 - 10/28/01 08:08 PM (22 years, 7 months ago)

cub you sound like you are trying to prevent a conartist from getting all he deserves. He only claims on his web site that 2 of his hybrids are from CHB. Yet he told me Crack head bob was his tester and spore producer. You know actually I wouldnt be surprised if Cub isnt shane from sporetradingpost. I know he was banned from here but whos to say cub isnt him. Anyone who stands up for his strains I would figure it is him posting here under a differnt name. You know now that I think about it I bet he gets his prints might be from spore works because CHB they seem one and the same between z and treasure coast and his tazmanian devil and the tazmanian(granted he considers his hybrids). I dont advocate him in anyway. Luckily I traded some things for spores so I wasnt as coned too bad. Although I bet our vendors can figure this mystery out by looking back to orders in Columbus Ohio or Marysville.

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