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MycoDorkus
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Fastest Colonizing cubie
#436791 - 10/25/01 06:24 PM (23 years, 4 months ago) |
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Based on experience, those of you who have used the PF tek, which cubie strain colonizes fastest? lets get a vote going to i can tally em up and see what spores my friend's dog groomer should buy next.
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LCid
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Re: Fastest Colonizing cubie [Re: MycoDorkus]
#436802 - 10/25/01 06:30 PM (23 years, 4 months ago) |
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im bout to try out the thai ko samuri pink buffalo i hear these thai strains are the shit! :)
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DrAbeLincoln
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Re: Fastest Colonizing cubie [Re: MycoDorkus]
#436803 - 10/25/01 06:32 PM (23 years, 4 months ago) |
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My monkeys uncle doesnt have much experience with many strains but the fastest that he has had have been the T3 strain...he also uses dark rye flour which seems to colonize much much faster then brown rice flour
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strang

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Re: Fastest Colonizing cubie [Re: DrAbeLincoln]
#436808 - 10/25/01 06:36 PM (23 years, 4 months ago) |
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t3 are the fastest IMO... pink buffalo are fast too but i think the p.b. has shitty small fruit.. t3's are some nice tough looking shrooms.....
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Re: Fastest Colonizing cubie [Re: strang]
#436814 - 10/25/01 06:41 PM (23 years, 4 months ago) |
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whats the full name of the t3?
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LCid
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Re: Fastest Colonizing cubie [Re: strang]
#436818 - 10/25/01 06:43 PM (23 years, 4 months ago) |
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the p.b. has shitty small fruit.. anyone else aggree on that? thatd suck :P
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Re: Fastest Colonizing cubie [Re: MycoDorkus]
#436852 - 10/25/01 07:10 PM (23 years, 4 months ago) |
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How much experiance does the dog grommer have? Maybe he should try Pan. Cyans, or something similar. However Thai. K/S is pretty good.....for a cubie. I don't know about it's performance on cakes, but on my uncle's ass, he has about 78 pins growing very strong from being cased in dung!
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Re: Fastest Colonizing cubie [Re: MycoDorkus]
#436932 - 10/25/01 08:17 PM (23 years, 4 months ago) |
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From what I hear Cambodians are very fast colonizers, but in the pinning/fruiting department it seems to be average.
Granted i'm trying to pin them in around 75 degree temperature (Rather than the 93 degrees i've heard they thrive), but i'm hoping they'll be allright.
Nothing bad has happened yet. They have been birthed since the 14th (11 days). Alittle mycelium reaching out into the air.
We'll see!
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Re: Fastest Colonizing cubie [Re: Abudiwa]
#436968 - 10/25/01 08:52 PM (23 years, 4 months ago) |
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cambos are reputed to be the fastest - but they perform better at higher temps - Lipa yai are also quite fast, as are Puertos...
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Re: Fastest Colonizing cubie [Re: Zen Peddler]
#437044 - 10/25/01 10:01 PM (23 years, 4 months ago) |
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the Z strain is the best.
it fully colonizes after 10 days. its amazing, and you should see the fruits on this strain!!!! oh my god!! AFOAF harvested a 64 gram shroom, its awesome.
with the Z strain, you cant go wrong
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zantac
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Re: Fastest Colonizing cubie [Re: gaastra]
#437053 - 10/25/01 10:14 PM (23 years, 4 months ago) |
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That Z- strain is the best by far. I inoculated a jar, and before I could put the tape on it was fully colonized!! One of the fruits was so big, I dropped it and it broke my toe!!
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Re: Fastest Colonizing cubie [Re: MycoDorkus]
#437447 - 10/26/01 05:50 AM (23 years, 4 months ago) |
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The fact is, they're all similar, give or take a few days. It all boils down to your substrate, its consistency, your inoculation methods, and the environment in which the mycelia incubate.
If you want bigger fruits or bigger overall flushes, you grow on straw, compost, or dung. One 1/2 pint BRF cake will not have the nutritional power to crank out rows of 7" mushrooms.
Most of what you hear about colonization time, etc. is hype. Some Cubensis types will colonize a bit faster than others -- true -- but the fact is, you're getting a syringe or print with millions of spores. Some spores will germinate and have a tendency to progress slowly, while others will take off and jars or petris will finish off in a week vs. 3 weeks.
To me, consistency of colonization times is more essential than colonization speed.
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Edited by Insomnia (10/26/01 05:51 AM)
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Re: Fastest Colonizing cubie [Re: Insomnia]
#437454 - 10/26/01 06:09 AM (23 years, 4 months ago) |
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I agree with Insomnia. Genetics also come into play. I've grown B +'s that were dogs, then from another vendor, B +'s that had amazing vigor. It's a question that has no easy answer.
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Insomnia
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Re: Fastest Colonizing cubie [Re: puscle]
#437588 - 10/26/01 11:01 AM (23 years, 4 months ago) |
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Very true. Don't know why I didn't mention that. Unfortunately in mushroom cluture, it's not plausible to achieve hybrid vigor as you would in plants. So good options are to clone mushrooms and do tissue culture work, or grow crop after crop of multispore inoculations.
I happen to enjoy growing crop after crop :) so what I do is find the fruit(s) in each crop that represent the traits I like best.
I look for an even distribution (as even as possible) of the following traits in the fruits I take prints from:
1. Earliest fruiter;
2. Most aggressive fruiter;
3. Largest fruitbody;
4. Solid fruiter under different temperatures and Rh;
5. Solid fruiter on a variety of substrates.
So, at harvest time I pick and take prints from the mushroom(s) that fruit early, grow quickly and aggressively, stand taller and more dense than the rest of the flush, and demonstrate excellent and consistent colonization on a variety of media.
From that print, I again go through the process of multispore germination, slowly but surely maintaining the qualities I like while screening out the ones I don't. Meanwhile, I benefit each time from a wide genetic base from a multispore inoculation.
Welcome to my genetics ghetto.
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MycoDorkus
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Re: Fastest Colonizing cubie [Re: gaastra]
#437653 - 10/26/01 12:30 PM (23 years, 4 months ago) |
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My friend's dog groomer has a year and a quarter of cultivation experience under his belt with cubies.
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durban_poison
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Re: Fastest Colonizing cubie [Re: MycoDorkus]
#437734 - 10/26/01 02:14 PM (23 years, 4 months ago) |
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Treasure coast are the fastest I have tried so far and amazonian seemed pretty fast
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Re: Fastest Colonizing cubie [Re: gaastra]
#437739 - 10/26/01 02:22 PM (23 years, 4 months ago) |
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Where do you get these Z strain spores?
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Re: Fastest Colonizing cubie [Re: shitdog]
#437745 - 10/26/01 02:33 PM (23 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: Fastest Colonizing cubie [Re: shitdog]
#437901 - 10/26/01 05:22 PM (23 years, 4 months ago) |
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We may be carrying the Z strain soon.
Price will be a reasonable $100 per pair of spores. Because of their large size, I can only send them 2 at a time.
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zantac
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Re: Fastest Colonizing cubie [Re: ]
#437921 - 10/26/01 05:59 PM (23 years, 4 months ago) |
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"PAIR OF SPORES" hehehe you crack me up man!
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