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Offlineblueboomers
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first timer with PF tek... questions
    #4367005 - 07/03/05 08:02 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

i inoculated my jars up 3 days ago almost, and i'm seeing no sign of growth, also my jars dont look like everybody else's jars, mine looks like dirt, and theirs looks like maybe cookie dough or something more tan. idk maybe just me i just think i fucked something up, because this is my first time ever doing the PF tek. or growing mush at all, could somebody reassure me, also the temp in my house is 80 degrees is that good enough for incubation? i have my jars in a damp dark place, is anything stopping them from growing?


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Re: first timer with PF tek... questions [Re: blueboomers]
    #4367008 - 07/03/05 08:04 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

give them some time. 3 days is not long enough to get worried yet.
80 is fine but 85-86 would be better.
what is the mixture ratio you used to make the jars?
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Re: first timer with PF tek... questions [Re: backupwards2]
    #4367028 - 07/03/05 08:14 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

Did you use straight spores or an LC. If you used straight spores then you will not see growth in 3 days, have patients it will start. I would also like to know what mixture you used to make the jars, how they were sterilized etc. maybe we can be a bit more help then.


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Re: first timer with PF tek... questions [Re: Amazoniandreams]
    #4367083 - 07/03/05 08:42 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

Well this is my formula, i just posted this but something got messed up and it didn't post wierd. anyways.

2/3 cup vermiculite
1/4 cup BRF
1/4 cup water

that doesn't make sense to me because a 1/2 pint is 1 cup and that is 7/6s of a cup, but whatever. When i inoculated i used a rubermaid container on it's side sprayed the crap out of everything with lysol and wiped everything down with antibactieral stuff. I used gloves and a mask and a hairnet, and i flame sterilized my syringe and cooled with a alcohol wipe, but idk, my jars look like dirty sand,

www.fungifun.org/pf/pf_en.htm#zubereitung

at that website, the tek he uses makes it look like he has cookie dough or something, could somebody tell me what i did wrong?


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Re: first timer with PF tek... questions [Re: blueboomers]
    #4367095 - 07/03/05 08:46 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

Your mixture sounds fine. Just wait.


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Re: first timer with PF tek... questions [Re: peeper]
    #4367131 - 07/03/05 08:57 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

How did you sterilze them though? I find that if I pressure cooked brf cakes too long then they would look like they were "burnt". This also seems to happen without enough water in the mix.


Edited by Amazoniandreams (07/03/05 08:59 PM)


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Re: first timer with PF tek... questions [Re: Amazoniandreams]
    #4367141 - 07/03/05 09:00 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

i steam sterilized them, maybe after the mycelium has taken over, i should dunk them before the first fruiting, but i doubt that i burnt them, well maybe i did, i had alluminum foil lids, no jar lid or anything just 3 layers of Aluminum foil, for good air exchange maybe the tin got too hot and burnt the vermiculite on the top?


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Re: first timer with PF tek... questions [Re: blueboomers]
    #4367150 - 07/03/05 09:03 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

Why wouldnt you put lids on your jars? There needs to be air exchange and I dont know how you could have that with 3 layers of tin foil. Maybe the steam got into the jars and over cooked the rice flour. I don't know, seems odd


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Re: first timer with PF tek... questions [Re: Amazoniandreams]
    #4367193 - 07/03/05 09:22 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

well kick me in the face, i read the fungifun pf tek and i thought that he didn't use a lid, just used 3 layers of tin foil, so i did the same, i think i fucked myself here


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Re: first timer with PF tek... questions [Re: Amazoniandreams]
    #4367194 - 07/03/05 09:22 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

sounds fine, just give them some more time. patience and they will grow.
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Re: first timer with PF tek... questions [Re: backupwards2]
    #4367236 - 07/03/05 09:38 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

Foil lids are FINE. Good luck.


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Re: first timer with PF tek... questions [Re: _OttO_]
    #4368054 - 07/04/05 02:24 AM (11 years, 5 months ago)

Mine have been growing for 3 days now and as a first timer, Im nervous as well. Everything will be cool though.


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Re: first timer with PF tek... questions [Re: JJ01769]
    #4369055 - 07/04/05 11:52 AM (11 years, 5 months ago)

The soonest I have ever sen any growth is 4 days, and usually it is somewhere between 6 and 8 days. The one personality trait this hobby will strengthen is patience.


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Re: first timer with PF tek... questions [Re: oysterguy63]
    #4369074 - 07/04/05 12:05 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

Quit worrying man, i worryed all to hell about mine but i just posted pics of my jars after 15 days and it is imazing what can change in that time. Don't let all the talk fool you, this stuff is cakewalk. Just like everybody else said, patience.


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Re: first timer with PF tek... questions [Re: Cub_Mycologist]
    #4369522 - 07/04/05 03:23 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

i inoculated my first pf jars a few weeks back, one jar showed sign of growth in 2 days and one took over a week b4 it showed any signs, avg prolly 4days i suppose, give it a few more days b4 u worry, if nuthin grows in there least ya know ya sterile techniques are workin.

Foil is fine to use as a lid.


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Re: first timer with PF tek... questions [Re: BenKenobi]
    #4370448 - 07/04/05 11:38 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

I'm on my first grow and I really thought I inocculated them when they were too hot or something because they didn't show growth until day 6. I even dumped the 1/2 inch of verm off a couple, but hesitated before I dumped the rest, and that was a damn good decision. Some of the teks can be a little misleading...patience is the key, I'm still waiting for my first 12 to fruit.


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Re: first timer with PF tek... questions [Re: blueboomers]
    #4370530 - 07/05/05 12:09 AM (11 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

blueboomers said:
Well this is my formula, i just posted this but something got messed up and it didn't post wierd. anyways.

2/3 cup vermiculite
1/4 cup BRF
1/4 cup water

that doesn't make sense to me because a 1/2 pint is 1 cup and that is 7/6s of a cup, but whatever.




i know this wasnt a real concern, but I felt like answering anway, the reason its more than a cup is that a lot of the water soaks into the vermiculite without adding to the volume.


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