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Offlineoptikal_trip
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Trip Level?
    #435680 - 10/24/01 07:39 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

I've read the trip level thing and from what some people tell me I've expereinced a level 4 trip. But it doesnt seem like a level 4 trip. I'll explain what I remember and if someone could just give suggestions of what level they think it might have been that would be great. Alright so basicly I'll explain the visuals and feelings.
First off there was no sign of ego loss what-so-ever. So that cancels out level 5 right away. ( i think). I just felt really happy. I still felt like me. Now onto the visuals. I wasted my time waiting for the trip to start by reading exotic stories ;) At first it just started to get hard to read. The letters on the page were moving alot. I got the breathing of the carpets and other patterns. At the peak of the trip the walls started to go really wavy. If I had to guess a measurement I'd say 1 foot waves. The wallpaper in my bathroom is really neat. Its like dark brown vein looking lines and behind that its light brown clouds. The clouds behind the veins were moving and changing shape like they were in the sky. People on TV were changing shape. Kinda like this gif:

Well thats the end of that.. before I forget, I ingested about 4 grams.


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Re: Trip Level? [Re: optikal_trip]
    #435761 - 10/24/01 08:39 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

I'd say level 3 to a low level 4, using the shroomery's level system. i think a full level 4 would be more like my last 3 1/2 hit acid trip, where things didn't really BREATHE anymore, I saw full amazing OEV's which just clouded my vision so that walls were no longer around me, and I pretty much wasn't there ... this was at the strongest part of the peak, and I had an ego-loss of sorts just because I didn't realize I was there, as if I was looking through a camera. my friend who was sitting in front of me for most of the peak didn't register, I forgot he was there for most of it (and he was like 2 feet away heh) i wish i could experience that again, but I wouldn't want to venture farther. I think that is the most I could handle at this point


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Re: Trip Level? [Re: optikal_trip]
    #435796 - 10/24/01 09:09 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

LOL. Read my post on "Constructing the Psychedelic Experience"

> First off there was no sign of ego loss what-so-ever.

What's "ego loss"? Without a sense of "I" can you experience anything? If you have no reference point for what you're experienceing, then who's experiencing them? You can't just go around and collect experiences, and pile them up into a bundle of sensory perceptions. What the fuck is ego loss?

> At the peak of the trip the walls started to go really wavy. If I had to guess a measurement I'd say 1 foot waves.

Why didn't you get out a ruler and measure them?


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Re: Trip Level? [Re: Kid]
    #436384 - 10/25/01 12:40 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

It's simple- why does level matter? Some trips are just visual trips- your mind during these trips will probably be clearer than it ever is normally. Other trips are mindtrips, with a lot of ego loss. This is a lot more common with acid. Shrooms provide more of a clear, lucid feeling.


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Re: Trip Level? [Re: Psilotor] * 1
    #436390 - 10/25/01 12:48 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

...and some trips are strong in both regards. I personally measure trips based on how strong they are emotionally and perceptually. In other words, what are their effects on not only the senses, but overall thinking and awareness? This is not to mock the Level System. I just think it's over-simplified. There is no psychedelic ruler. ;)


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Re: Trip Level? [Re: optikal_trip]
    #436486 - 10/25/01 02:43 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

Sounds like a level 2... possibly touching EVER so slightly on a 3, with the clouds (although this is debatable).
If I had to nail it to one level, then I would say it was a two.
i.e:

Bright colors, and visuals (i.e. things start to move and breath), some 2 dimensional patterns become apparent upon shutting eyes. Confused or reminiscent thoughts. Change of short term memory leads to continual distractive thought patterns. Vast increase in creativity becomes apparent as the natural brain filter is bypassed.


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