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23,652 pot plants seized in state park [CA]
    #4363487 - 07/02/05 05:19 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

Police seize $47 million in pot in state park
July 2, 2005 - signonsandiego.com

GUERNEVILLE - A west Sonoma County state park was closed for more than four hours Friday after deputies discovered a network of marijuana plants with an end of season harvest value estimated to be about $47 million, the Sonoma County Sheriff's Department reported.

Lt. Roger Rude said deputies discovered the network of 23,652 plants in the Gilliam Creek drainage area of the Austin Creek State Recreation Area.

"This is one of the largest groves ever found in Sonoma County," Rude said. Rude described the general location of the garden network as very remote and rugged terrain frequented by hikers and hunters.

Rude said the plants' estimated harvest value is based on each mature plant yielding about a pound of marijuana and each pound selling for about $2,000.

Rude said a hunter came upon a garden containing about 500 plants at the back end of the park and used a global positioning device to pinpoint the garden's location in the recreation area and notify a state park ranger.

Sheriff's deputies and a park ranger drove in a four-wheel drive vehicle and hiked about five miles into the park and found an armed man cutting brush around the pot garden, Rude said.

The two deputies chased the man about 400 yards before losing sight and sound of him, Rude said, and at one point one of the deputies fired his service revolver into the ground to try to get the man to stop.

Not knowing if there were other armed people tending the garden, the deputies radioed for air support, but the sheriff's helicopter was down for a maintenance check and other law enforcement helicopters were unavailable, Rude said. The deputies then hiked back to the pot garden campsite and waited for backup support to arrive by land, Rude said.

The network of pot gardens contained plants two-to-three feet high. Plants were destroyed during the afternoon, Rude said.

The incident also closed the adjacent Armstrong Redwoods State Park between 10:45 a.m. and 3:30 p.m., a park spokeswoman said.


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Re: 23,652 pot plants seized in state park [CA] [Re: veggie]
    #4363558 - 07/02/05 05:37 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

That hunter should be killed.


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Re: 23,652 pot plants seized in state park [CA] [Re: veggie]
    #4365205 - 07/03/05 03:15 AM (11 years, 5 months ago)

It's funny that the guy ran and got away. These are suppose to be rangers in a park, can't they track footprints or something. Good for him anyhow, bad for those poor little plants.


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Re: 23,652 pot plants seized in state park [CA] [Re: veggie]
    #4365290 - 07/03/05 03:50 AM (11 years, 5 months ago)

Jesus, over 23,000 plants? I couldn't imagine the bliss I'd have if I stumbled upon that...

I doubt he'd even notice if 200 or so plants were missing anyway.


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Re: 23,652 pot plants seized in state park [CA] [Re: veggie]
    #4365431 - 07/03/05 04:41 AM (11 years, 5 months ago)

:eek: That's a lot of pot, wowza.


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Re: 23,652 pot plants seized in state park [CA] [Re: veggie]
    #4384984 - 07/08/05 09:07 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

Yes it is alot of pot. I live pretty close to the area, very close and there is some rumor in the nieghborhood that there is no way the crop was that large. I wonder why they might exaggerate the numbers so.......by at least double?


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Re: 23,652 pot plants seized in state park [CA] [Re: silly420girl]
    #4389422 - 07/10/05 11:43 AM (11 years, 5 months ago)

"found an armed man cutting brush around the pot garden, Rude said. "

yeah by armed they probably mean he had a knife, wich was just the tool he was using lol...

yeah like there is this guy cutting a pot bush in a remote area carrying an AK-47 or something...THOSE SCARY EVIL MURDERING POT SMOKERS!

hehe that's the image they paint


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Re: 23,652 pot plants seized in state park [CA] [Re: myndreach]
    #4403352 - 07/14/05 01:47 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

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myndreach said:
"found an armed man cutting brush around the pot garden, Rude said. "

yeah by armed they probably mean he had a knife, wich was just the tool he was using lol...

yeah like there is this guy cutting a pot bush in a remote area carrying an AK-47 or something...THOSE SCARY EVIL MURDERING POT SMOKERS!

hehe that's the image they paint




Thats the image they gave me, until you said something...usually I wouldve picked up on that, but I was waiting to see how they knew he was armed since they didnt mention him firing...I am so glad the guy got away, I hope he makes it. Bad loss for crops sure, but they can take it...best he keeps his freedom. I wonder how that guy felt after that?


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Re: 23,652 pot plants seized in state park [CA] [Re: veggie]
    #4405993 - 07/15/05 12:09 AM (11 years, 4 months ago)

God damn that would be a shitty day. Working hard and admiring your plants and out of nowhere comes the law. Poor fella.


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Re: 23,652 pot plants seized in state park [CA] [Re: daimyo]
    #4423589 - 07/19/05 02:53 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

Who's the poor sob that had to count them all to get such an exact figure? or is this based off some lame plant/sq ft area calculation?


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Re: 23,652 pot plants seized in state park [CA] [Re: shobimono]
    #4424285 - 07/19/05 06:10 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

Rude said the plants' estimated harvest value is based on each mature plant yielding about a pound of marijuana and each pound selling for about $2,000.

never heard of anyone payin more than $600 a lb here in texas. And a pound per plant... maybe the whole plant but smokable prolly 3-4 ounces average. 23,652 plants some might have a pound but most won't i'd say average 3-4 ounces (echo)

I know damn straight that farmer prolly has the news paper framed.

I had a friend from my home town get some plants confiscated by the oinkers. They were chasin a fugitive (some dude that ditched his car) through some wooded area and that cop just stopped chasin the guy and "Woaa nice plants" made the front page of the paper and well he has it framed on his wall now. They were Northern Lights. Would've been nice.

Edit: Hydro goes for more per pound of course but I've never heard of any soil grown go for that.


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Re: 23,652 pot plants seized in state park [CA] [Re: Cowgold]
    #4424306 - 07/19/05 06:17 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

let see $20 a quarter 64 quarters... $1280 sacked up per pound... they like big exagerated numbers to much.


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Re: 23,652 pot plants seized in state park [CA] [Re: daimyo]
    #6203762 - 10/23/06 10:29 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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God damn that would be a shitty day. Working hard and admiring your plants and out of nowhere comes the law. Poor fella.




yeah, but that was after his initial reaction of having evaded the law. I'd say he felt rather lucky not to have to face charges...would have spent a beeter part of his life in prison.


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Re: 23,652 pot plants seized in state park [CA] [Re: blue_view]
    #6204123 - 10/23/06 11:49 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

So I wonder how many piggies it took to count all 23 and a half THOUSAND plants. Thats so hard to believe, that I cant believe it. I refuse to acknowledge that one person, a two man team, or an entire squad would count that to an exact number. Yep, I call bullshit.


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Re: 23,652 pot plants seized in state park [CA] [Re: jdirty]
    #6204205 - 10/24/06 12:08 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I seen on tv that mexians come into the state/Nat parks. Thay do alot of damge to the plants and wild life. Hiker/ hunters have been shot over it.  I hate to see the land we sent a side so  legal people can get outside, missed up by some illagel looking to make money.Look it all the mushrooms this asshole has mass up.I hope they find and deport his ass  :mad: :evil: :mad2:


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Re: 23,652 pot plants seized in state park [CA] [Re: Brainiac]
    #6204367 - 10/24/06 12:45 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

600 a lbs?? what kinda bud? shit, i know the sonoma nor cal price, it aint 600 a lbs. its a lot more than 2000 if your only buying 1or two lbs. also, the right strain and started from seed, a female plant can get way over a QP per. AFOAF just harvested a late started trainwreck skunk and it was about 6 oz.


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Re: 23,652 pot plants seized in state park [CA] [Re: Brainiac]
    #6204413 - 10/24/06 12:56 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

You didn't hear that. Or if you did, complete bullshit. Why would an illegal from mexico grow stateside when he has the entire sparsley populated mexican countryside to use without the billion dollar funded DEA on his back. Sounds like some minuteman propaganda

Mexican grow ops are HUGE. It's easier to drag it across the border than play around in the state parks


Oh, and, somebody should shoot that hunter with his own gun. What kind of asshole find a bunch of plants in the middle of nowhere and thinks "hmm, I should call the cops. These plants are evil"


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Re: 23,652 pot plants seized in state park [CA] [Re: DirtMcgirt]
    #6204436 - 10/24/06 01:00 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

It was on Outdoor Life Network


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Re: 23,652 pot plants seized in state park [CA] [Re: Brainiac]
    #6204469 - 10/24/06 01:08 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

National Parks' Pot Farms Blamed on Cartels

Mexican drug lords find it easier to grow in state than import

by Zachary Coile
San Francisco Chronicle - November 18, 2005

Hikers in national parks such as Yosemite and Sequoia-Kings Canyon are encountering a danger more hazardous than bears: illegal marijuana farms run by Mexican drug cartels and protected by booby traps and guards carrying AK-47s.

National Park Service officials testified in Congress on Thursday that illegal drug production in national parks, forests and other federal lands had grown into a multibillion-dollar business in recent years -- mostly concentrated in California.

"These activities threaten our employees, visitors and our mission of protecting some of the nation's most prized natural and cultural resources," Karen Taylor-Goodrich, the National Park Service's associate director for visitor and resource protection, told the House Resources Subcommittee on National Parks.

Last year, National Park Service officers seized about 60,000 marijuana plants, with an estimated street value of $240 million, from parks in California. About 44,000 pot plants were removed from Sequoia National Park near California's Central Valley. Another 10,000 plants were seized in Yosemite National Park.

The Park Service also has found pot farms and other drug trafficking activities in the Santa Monica Mountains National Recreation Area and the Whiskeytown National Recreation Area in Shasta County as well as two Bay Area parks: the Golden Gate National Recreation Area and Point Reyes National Seashore.

The increasing use of national parks and other public lands for illegal pot farming is part of a major shift in the marijuana trade. Ten years ago, almost all of the state's pot was grown in the "Emerald Triangle," an area encompassing Humboldt, Mendocino and Trinity counties in Northern California, law enforcement officials said.

But Mexican drug cartels now are seizing on the state's mild climate and vast stretches of remote lands to set up pot farms across California. Tightened security on the U.S.-Mexico border has also convinced many drug gangs it is easier to grow marijuana in the state than to smuggle it into the country.

Park service officials said the drug cartels took extreme measures to protect their plants, which can be worth $4,000 each. Growers have been known to set up booby traps with shotguns. Guards armed with knives and military-style weapons have chased away hikers at gunpoint. In 2002, a visitor to Sequoia was briefly detained by a drug grower, who threatened to harm him if he told authorities the pot farm's secret location.

During a raid of an illegal pot farm in Santa Clara County in June, a California Fish and Game officer was wounded and a suspect shot and killed.

"In prior years, guards used to flee from Park Service law enforcement but now stand their ground with leveled guns using intimidation tactics," Laura Whitehouse, the Central Valley program manager for the National Parks Conservation Association, told the committee.

The illicit pot farms can also cause environmental damage. Growers often cut trees, dig ditches, create crude dams on streams, and haul in plastic hoses and other equipment to irrigate the plants. Fertilizers and other chemicals used by growers pollute watersheds and kill native species. Last year, the Park Service spent $50,000 to clean up tons of litter, debris and human waste at pot farms that were discovered or abandoned.

Congress approved a slight increase in funding for Park Service law enforcement for next year, $3.6 million, $746,000 of it for drug eradication efforts in California parks. But federal and state officials say they still lack the money and personnel to patrol vast areas in and around the state's parks.

"It's a $2 billion or a $4 billion problem, and we're throwing $1 million at it," said Supervisor Allen Ishida of Tulare County, whose deputies seized 157,000 pot plants on public and private lands and made 28 arrests this year.

Rep. Steve Pearce, R-N.M., the chairman of the national parks subcommittee, said it would be tough to find more money in the federal budget as Congress deals with rising deficits and is considering cutting many programs. He urged the Park Service to put more officers on drug eradication instead of "writing parking tickets."

Donald Coelho, the Park Service's chief of law enforcement, agreed that more money was not the only solution. He said a coordinated strategy by state, federal and local law enforcement officials ultimately could put a dent in the Mexican cartels' operations.

"Sometimes it takes time to work your way through an organization," Coelho said.

State narcotics officers and the Drug Enforcement Administration seized a record 1.1 million pot plants on public and private lands in California this year, up from 621,000 plants last year, through an aggressive campaign called CAMP, or Campaign Against Marijuana Planting. The street value of those drugs is estimated at $4.5 billion.

But state and federal officials said drug growers were adapting quickly -- for example, planting smaller pot farms that are tougher to spot from surveillance planes and helicopters. Some growers have responded to drug raids in Sequoia and other parks by moving their farms to nearby Forest Service or Bureau of Land Management lands.

Without a more comprehensive plan, "we are just shifting the problem from one jurisdiction to another," Ishida said.


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Re: 23,652 pot plants seized in state park [CA] [Re: Brainiac]
    #6204485 - 10/24/06 01:12 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I am a member of the minuteman :mad: :evil:


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