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Offlineviper100fm
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knocking up old jars
    #4359351 - 07/01/05 01:53 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

no mycilium grew in a few of my jars there not quite a month old now but absolutly no signs of contams could i just re inoculate these jars and save all the hassle of soaking and sterolizing?


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Re: knocking up old jars [Re: viper100fm]
    #4359385 - 07/01/05 02:01 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

you could... but it probably wont work... there's gotta be a reason why they didnt colonize before... id redo everything.


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Re: knocking up old jars [Re: pcubmycol]
    #4359393 - 07/01/05 02:02 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

ditto


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Re: knocking up old jars [Re: Roadkill]
    #4359404 - 07/01/05 02:04 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

and they are probably too dry to colonize now


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Re: knocking up old jars [Re: GlassOnion]
    #4359433 - 07/01/05 02:09 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

damn.. that means ill have to wait until like Monday to start
oh well thanks for the advice guys


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Re: knocking up old jars [Re: GlassOnion]
    #4359459 - 07/01/05 02:15 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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and they are probably too dry to colonize now




probably so, and if not, and they do colonize, they'll probably end up stalling :frown:


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Re: knocking up old jars [Re: pcubmycol]
    #4359569 - 07/01/05 02:43 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

i would suspect that you might have some sort of bacteria contam, where it dont really look like you've got contams, but when you break open the jar, it's gooey, and has a yeasty smell. sometimes it will make the substrate look darker, but it can also stop a jar if it's on the inside, or toward the top..

as a generaly rule, if it dont work, dont try to fix it, you're gonna waste more time on a jar if it's sitting there doing nothing, or something, or maybe, verses starting fresh


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Re: knocking up old jars [Re: Phychotron]
    #4359578 - 07/01/05 02:46 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

does anyone know what that bacteria would be called, ive never heard of it....


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Re: knocking up old jars [Re: pcubmycol]
    #4360580 - 07/01/05 07:07 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

dont know the name, but when i first experienced it someone refered to it as a bacteria contam, so i've just been using that to describe it... it's like wet spot
the first one on this page best describes it

it's been so long since i've smelt it, that it would best be described as sour apples, although i dont think i've ever smelled sour apples, but i could imagine.

theres an old pic, hard to tell the difference since it's up against myc, but that area is gooey and will not colonize, it usualy goes into the center, mostly taking over the inerds of the jar. Sometimes it will grow, sometimes it will stay one size, and no mycelium will grow. usualy, it will look like 1-2 small spots, but the whole jar will be gooey.Imagine a healthy pf jar, and imagine a slightly darker spot that doesnt grow. Also, sometimes the myc will put up a 'wall' of thick mycelium around it, and continue to coloize.


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Re: knocking up old jars [Re: Phychotron]
    #4360582 - 07/01/05 07:08 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

looks like u got a pube in that jar


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Re: knocking up old jars [Re: walkclothed]
    #4360713 - 07/01/05 07:53 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

that grew in a mess of jars i had a few years ago. when i was sterilizing the jars, the water level got too low and some of the jars bottoms cracked. everyone of those jars got that bacteria growing. i wasn't aware it was anything, the mushrooms grew fine but were blacker and the insides had a black goo. i've never gotten sick from eating mushrooms, those were an exception.


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Re: knocking up old jars [Re: Godspeed]
    #4360960 - 07/01/05 09:11 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

mmm, black goo...


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Re: knocking up old jars [Re: walkclothed]
    #4362671 - 07/02/05 11:37 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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looks like u got a pube in that jar




it does, but probably not a pube... i got long hair... source of the contam maybe? :shrug:


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