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achieving optimal fruiting temperature
    #4359074 - 07/01/05 12:24 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

how do you do it? everyone says a 10degree temperature drop from incubation to fruiting is ideal...but i can't very well make my house 10 degrees colder...is putting icecubes in the humidifier (hooked up by a hose to the chamber) a good idea? we have a fan going to keep the room from becoming full of hot, stagnant air...thanks


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Re: achieving optimal fruiting temperature [Re: Nicer]
    #4359251 - 07/01/05 01:21 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

you need to have a 10 degree drop to switch mycilum from growing stage to fruiting stage, thats why ppl coldshock there casings/cakes .
i had the same problem with my last casings.. temps were in the 80's when i was fruiting.. and i didnt realy notice any problems.. mabye a lil slower fruiting.. but thats all


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Re: achieving optimal fruiting temperature [Re: Nicer]
    #4359261 - 07/01/05 01:23 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

so icecubes in the humidifer is too much? too inconsistent?


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Re: achieving optimal fruiting temperature [Re: Nicer]
    #4359264 - 07/01/05 01:25 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

Ice cubes in the humidifer?..

Kind of set-up do you have?

Are you talking about a cool mist?..

I don't know much about them, but i doubt cool water would drop it significally, but it'd probably drop it a lil bit...Couldn't hurt..

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Re: achieving optimal fruiting temperature [Re: Nicer]
    #4359273 - 07/01/05 01:30 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

its a humidifier hooked up by a hose to a dual chambered plastic bin with a clear lid and a flourescent light above it....

by cold shock do you mean make it cold, then bring it back to the regular temperature it was at when incubating (room temperature)? if so, how cold do you make it and for how long? i dont see this stuff in the PF Tek guide that i was using...


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Re: achieving optimal fruiting temperature [Re: IGnosticAbhorI]
    #4359280 - 07/01/05 01:33 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

The easiest way to do this is to keep your place at 72 degrees, and incubate your cakes/casings between 84 and 86... Use a TiT or a reptile heating pad with towels over it then your incubation chamber... that way, when you take the cakes/casings out of your incubator you have the temp drop already.


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Re: achieving optimal fruiting temperature [Re: pcubmycol]
    #4359299 - 07/01/05 01:37 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

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that way, when you take the cakes/casings out of your incubator you have the temp drop already.




Great idea....unless your house is always around those temps...(kinda hot tho lol)

If you can't drop the temp. atlast 5F, then cold shock it in the fridge...

Make sure you cover w/e it is...If it's a cake, then put it in something plastic (tupperware)...and cover...if it's a casing...same thing (cept cover w/ foil..)...

Take it out, then try and fruit it...

It delays pinning IMO, and isn't necessary...but when you've got extreme veg. growth and CAN'T get it to pin...(esp. when you can't drop temps. at all)....THEN, its a good idea to cold shock..

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Re: achieving optimal fruiting temperature [Re: Nicer]
    #4359315 - 07/01/05 01:42 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

how long should it be in the fridge? i've already moved it into the dual chambered thingy...should i wait a few days and if nothing happens cold shock it in the fridge for x amount of time?


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Re: achieving optimal fruiting temperature [Re: Nicer]
    #4359334 - 07/01/05 01:48 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

My cakes were dying of dehydration a few days ago (our humidifier broke down) and the room was always hot anyway. Yesterday I filled a dorm fridge/heater with water and hydrogen peroxide, put the cakes in there and put it on the cold setting. Meanwhile, I cleaned the terrarium and switched to a cool mist setup. When I took the cakes out, they all had new pins but were still kind of blue (the littlest cake's named Freddie the Freeloader). The coolmist humidifier is keeping the chamber ~4-5 degrees cooler than the outside, which is enough to bring it into the high 70's. I've put icecubes on some perlite in there (they melt sooooo slowly on perlite) and that's brough it down some more. AC coming soon.

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Re: achieving optimal fruiting temperature [Re: PowRGnome]
    #4359380 - 07/01/05 02:00 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

12 hours should suffice...Some people do it for 24 and no longer.

If you don't see mycelium knotting up in atleast 4 days...(6 at the longest...primordia formation), then i'd go ahead and cold shock it.

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Re: achieving optimal fruiting temperature [Re: IGnosticAbhorI]
    #4359402 - 07/01/05 02:04 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

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IGnosticAbhorI said:
12 hours should suffice...Some people do it for 24 and no longer.

If you don't see mycelium knotting up in atleast 4 days...(6 at the longest...primordia formation), then i'd go ahead and cold shock it.

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