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Do these aborts look safe?
    #4356176 - 06/30/05 04:11 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

Lately there's been a lot of hot days here and I am having troubles to keep temps inside the optimal range. Some of my mushrooms have grey caps and I was wondering if they're safe to eat? Here are some pics from said aborts (btw, sorry for the blurry pics, my camera is acting strange lately):






Thanks in advance!!  :mushroom2: :heart: :mushroom2:


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Re: Do these aborts look safe? [Re: Colonel Kurtz Ph.D]
    #4356208 - 06/30/05 04:20 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

the pics are to blurry for me to really tell any detail but they look good from what i can see.


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Re: Do these aborts look safe? [Re: lemon_lw]
    #4356268 - 06/30/05 04:42 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

Come to think about it, a better question would be: Do these mushrooms look good at all? Notice the grey-ness in the caps.




Might this be due to the recent high temperatures?
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Re: Do these aborts look safe? [Re: Colonel Kurtz Ph.D]
    #4356300 - 06/30/05 04:52 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

looks like a contam to me. not sure either mold or bacterial. how much air exchange are they getting?
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Re: Do these aborts look safe? [Re: Colonel Kurtz Ph.D]
    #4356301 - 06/30/05 04:53 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

it still looks like bruising to me, compare for yourself http://www.shroomery.org/index/par/23418.


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Re: Do these aborts look safe? [Re: backupwards2]
    #4356307 - 06/30/05 04:54 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

they are safe to eat but you need to find out the problem. Could be dry high temps


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Re: Do these aborts look safe? [Re: lemon_lw]
    #4356311 - 06/30/05 04:55 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

i think this is a classic case of
when in doubt throw it out.

edit-thanks backupward


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Re: Do these aborts look safe? [Re: lemon_lw]
    #4356354 - 06/30/05 05:06 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

ink caps are a different kind of shroom altogether. not a contam like this. i see some bacterial blotch on some of the ones that aren't looking moldy. again goes to air exchange. are they mushy mushies?
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Re: Do these aborts look safe? [Re: lemon_lw]
    #4356580 - 06/30/05 06:16 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

lemon_lw said:
i think this is a classic case of
when in doubt throw it out.
but heh im an idiot



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Re: Do these aborts look safe? [Re: grow]
    #4356651 - 06/30/05 06:45 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

be nice grow. this aint the place to bash.


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Re: Do these aborts look safe? [Re: lemon_lw]
    #4356677 - 06/30/05 06:52 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

no prob lemon. yeah and play nice grow. lol


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Re: Do these aborts look safe? [Re: tahoe]
    #4356992 - 06/30/05 08:28 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

tahoe said:
they are safe to eat but you need to find out the problem. Could be dry high temps




Actually this is being a hot dry summer. Could that be the explanation for those caps? I've just noticed, when I try to clean a cap the black stuff comes out and then the cap is almost perfectly clean. Could this be bacterial blotch or just a reaction to dryness? And if it is bac. blotch are these safe to eat? I am most worried because I gave some of my casings away and I don't want anybody to get intoxicated.

(BTW, some other mushrooms are indeed showing signs of being too dry)

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Re: Do these aborts look safe? [Re: Colonel Kurtz Ph.D]
    #4357074 - 06/30/05 08:57 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

bacterial blotch is caused by psuedomonas which is not going to make a healthy person sick but can cause problems with anyone who has a compromised immune system.
it really appears to me to be more than just blotch thou, what is all that funk growing on them? appears to be some kind of mold too. when you wipe it off what color is it?
still haven't said what kind of air exchange you are doing. i had a small prob with something similar and started more air exchanges and it has helped out with that prob.
good luck with them.
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Re: Do these aborts look safe? [Re: backupwards2]
    #4357165 - 06/30/05 09:18 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

Actually I have grown several batches which looked similar but never so black as those, and they were just fine. The problem has increased along with ambient temps.

For air exchange I fan every time I remember it and leave a little opening in the lid, it has worked great several times in the past.

As for funkiness, It's an optical ditortion, there's no mold whatsoever in the shrooms, just that black-ish layer. Since I think it's blotch now I'll increase air exchange and wipe the caps as I mist them. I'll only take the ones which look healthy and advice my friends to do the same. :thumbup:


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Re: Do these aborts look safe? [Re: Colonel Kurtz Ph.D]
    #4357193 - 06/30/05 09:27 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

There's absoutely nothing wrong with those fruit man. Enjoy! Those larger fruits that have the blueing caps are no more than aborts themselves. You've got moisture and air exchange issues it appears. High temps require more air exchange.

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Re: Do these aborts look safe? [Re: Hotnuts]
    #4357230 - 06/30/05 09:37 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

that is what i was trying to get at: more air exchange due to temp increase. thats all. they do look funky from the pics though. cracker dry and munch away then.
could misting directly onto the caps be causing some of this problem? i would think so. isn't misting of pins supposed to cause aborts? i don't know for sure just what i have read here on several occasions.
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