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Re: What do YOU do agaist "war on drugs"? [Re: tak]
    #4596201 - 08/29/05 07:01 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

Hello, I'm new to not only this board, but to posting comments on bulletin boards.
I read everyone's comments, all were interesting.
But this comment by root-ninja-tak grabbed my attention. "I think it would also make a good point to show examples of the "blood" that is currently shed because of legalities. It is a cutthroat business, and attracts people who want easy money. People get killed over drugs, and I believe that to end with the end of the drug war." --root-ninja-tak
I am not a drug user--except for coffee. When I think of the drug war, there are several very important things I think of first--and the reputations of drug users is definitely not one of them. I think of:
1) Thousands murdered in turf wars.
2) $40+ Billion wasted in the drug war
3) Taxes not collected from the sale of forbidden fruit
4) Big financial support to foreign armies and national economies--money that should be staying inside the United States
5) Erosion of our civil liberties--including those who, like me, have nothing to do personally with illegal drugs.
To revisit 2): Costs
850,000 police in the U.S. at an average of $35,000 per officer
The cost of prisons, both federal, state and private prisons
The cost of human suffering and the wasted human talent of those who are sent to prison to serve ridiculously long sentences for possession or selling in order to survive--especially people of color. Remember, there are NOT jobs for all those who want to work.
Drug-related car thefts, drug-related shoplifting, higher insurance premiums all of us end up paying because of the drug war. Here we have to ask, "Why did you steal this car?" A) Was it for a quick joy ride, B) to obtain spare parts for your car, or C) to help pay for the next month's rent, 4) OR was it to buy expensive drugs?" Therefore, were it not for the drug war, we could eliminate reason #4.
The reason for the 18th Amendment was to remove a serious problem of the family breadwinner spending his income in taverns instead of supporting his wife and children. But within 14 years, this nation learned that law enforcement of this personal-choice issue was worse than the problem of alcoholism. -- I wish I could come up with an answer, but why aren't Americans applying the lessons learned from the failure of Prohibition and applying that to the failure of the drug war?
The human cost is the biggest cost. In 1990, there were around 24,000 homicides in the U.S. The large majority were because of the drug war. When one looks at the homicide statistics from 1920 to 1933 (the years spanning from the 18th to the 21st Amendments), the rate of homicides climb from around 1924 and peaked in 1933. After the ratification of the 21st Amendment (Dec 5, 1933), the homicide rate declined steadily and leveled out towards World War II. And, interestingly, the consumption of alcohol actually increased during Prohibition. Very similar to today where we now have more drugs than when Pres. Nixon announced the war on drugs, we have purer drugs and we have cheaper drugs. And we have more than 2 million people in prison and that number will reach 3 million--unless the Iraq war and other factors actually breaks the back of the American economy where the most stubborn and closed-minded will have to cry Uncle and at least release non-violent users and sellers of Schedule One drugs. Most regrettably, we always think in terms of economics, the dollar amount. This Christian-dominated culture seldom thinks in terms of human suffering.
The cost of the drug war has been estimated to be about $40 Billion every twelve months. Does anyone have a figure on how many thousands of drug-related homicides there are in the United States? How many billions of dollars drift across our border into the hands of Latin American drug lords, or Middle Eastern terrorists? If your average American thinks, what do they think about? Hm-m-m. Let me think. Well, there's NASCAR, football, sit-coms, video games, cars--everything but how we can improve the quality of life for everyone.
Does anyone have a figure of dollars spent building more prisons and how much money was NOT spent on education and services to the elderly? In our "wealthy" nation, wouldn't it be possible to make a tuition-free college education available to all those who meet basic entrance exams?
I'm sure the participant of these board discussions can think of lots more things $40 Billion could buy every year: bridge repair, R&D for alternative fuels, advances in science and technology.
Only a few people live in a wealthy America, the rest of us live in a poor America.
--E8Kruesler


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