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Critic tries to get Souter's home seized
    #4354444 - 06/30/05 07:59 AM (11 years, 5 months ago)

http://us.cnn.com/2005/LAW/06/29/souter.property.ap/index.html

WEARE, New Hampshire (AP) -- A critic of the U.S. Supreme Court's ruling that governments may seize private property for economic development is suggesting the process be used to replace Justice David Souter's New Hampshire home with a hotel.

"The justification for such an eminent domain action is that our hotel will better serve the public interest as it will bring in economic development and higher tax revenue to Weare," Logan Darrow Clements wrote in a fax to town officials in Weare Tuesday.

Souter, a longtime Weare resident, joined in last week's 5-4 court decision that said governments may seize private property for private development, if doing so would benefit a community.

Clements is CEO of Los Angeles-based Freestar Media, which fights "abusive" government. "This is not a prank," he said in a news release on the Freestar Media web site.

Clements did not immediately respond to an e-mail seeking additional comment Wednesday. A telephone call was answered with a recording saying his voice mailbox was full.

Police cars were parked at the edge of Souter's property Tuesday in response to the letter. "It was a precaution, just being protective," said police Lt. Mark Bodanza. Souter was assaulted while jogging in Washington in May 2004.

Clements' letter was given to the board of selectmen. If the five-member board were to endorse the hotel project, zoning laws would have to be changed and the hotel would have to get approval from the planning board.

"At this point, the Board of Selectmen are taking no action," chairwoman Laura Buono said Wednesday in an e-mail.

"Am I taking this seriously? But of course," said Charles Meany, Weare's code enforcement officer. "If it is their right to pursue this type of end, then by all means let the process begin."

Meany did not immediately respond to a call seeking details on the process.

There was no immediate response to a call seeking comment from Souter.

Souter's two-story colonial farmhouse is assessed at just over $100,000 and brought in $2,895 in property taxes last year.

The Supreme Court case involved the city of New London, Connecticut, which wants to seize property to make way for a hotel and convention center.

The majority opinion said New London could pursue private development under the Fifth Amendment, which allows governments to take private property if the land is for public use. It said the project the city has in mind promises to produce jobs and revenue.


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Re: Critic tries to get Souter's home seized [Re: Seuss]
    #4354446 - 06/30/05 08:01 AM (11 years, 5 months ago)

I hope he succeeds... seems to me that all five justice's properties should be up for grabs by people that want to do a bit of econmic development for the good of the public...


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Re: Critic tries to get Souter's home seized [Re: Seuss]
    #4354462 - 06/30/05 08:17 AM (11 years, 5 months ago)

i think this is fantastic. i had the same thought as soon as i found out about the ruling. it wouldve been more fitting, though, if souter's home had been in his family for 200 years.


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Re: Critic tries to get Souter's home seized [Re: automan]
    #4354568 - 06/30/05 09:40 AM (11 years, 5 months ago)

Beautiful

I wonder if they get overwhelming support from the local community than the board of selectmen will have no choice but to endorse the development.

The hotel would be incredibly popular I bet.


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Re: Critic tries to get Souter's home seized [Re: Seuss]
    #4354626 - 06/30/05 10:17 AM (11 years, 5 months ago)

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I hope he succeeds... seems to me that all five justice's properties should be up for grabs by people that want to do a bit of econmic development for the good of the public...




good, this is the sort of thing people should be doing. make the bastards face the reality of their laws.


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Re: Critic tries to get Souter's home seized [Re: Seuss]
    #4354785 - 06/30/05 11:35 AM (11 years, 5 months ago)




judge souter welcome to the world of the little people.


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Re: Critic tries to get Souter's home seized [Re: Seuss]
    #4354899 - 06/30/05 12:28 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

I really, really hope they accomplish this.

I hope this Judge's home gets turned into a ugly hotel that fails.

BTW has it been establised what happens if that private place fails? What happens then, can the people that once 'owned'(if you can call it that anymore) the place reclame there property?


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Re: Critic tries to get Souter's home seized [Re: Anisotropic]
    #4354955 - 06/30/05 12:48 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

> BTW has it been establised what happens if that private place fails?

Wow! Good question... I hadn't thought through that side of this...


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Re: Critic tries to get Souter's home seized [Re: Seuss]
    #4354989 - 06/30/05 01:02 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

I mean I know there house would still be gone...

I've heard that 80 precent of bussnesses in the US fail in there first 5 years.

http://press.arrivenet.com/bus/article.php/633888.html

That artical seems to corroborate that, but I don't really trust it as accurate.

Google answers posted this... http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=418119

So I guess the stats are not that high with larger companys, but they still do fail.

This will have to be delt with eventually. If so, who would be responsible for paying for the new house, and the removal of the bussness building?


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Re: Critic tries to get Souter's home seized [Re: Anisotropic]
    #4358581 - 07/01/05 07:42 AM (11 years, 5 months ago)

You honestly think they would return the property to the original owner? Sorry, but that would never happen. If they allowed it to happen, it would be an admission of mistake. Most likely the property would simply stay with the new private owner of the failed business... possibly going to the creditors and eventually auctioned off to the highest bidder.


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Re: Critic tries to get Souter's home seized [Re: Seuss]
    #4358798 - 07/01/05 10:36 AM (11 years, 5 months ago)

No. I don't think that at all. It was just a hypothetical situation that no on has tested, thus I am wondering if there is any kind of precedent involved.


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Re: Critic tries to get Souter's home seized [Re: Anisotropic]
    #4371506 - 07/05/05 09:32 AM (11 years, 5 months ago)

> I am wondering if there is any kind of precedent involved.

I'm sure Russia has something in the archives from the days of communism under the Soviet Union that they would share with us if we asked...

I've now read four seperate stories of people loosing their homes or businesses because of this ruling. In all four cases, the stolen property was given to a developer. This is sickening.


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