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OfflineTamrylin
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Xerocomus Cultivation?
    #417213 - 10/07/01 06:27 PM (22 years, 5 months ago)

Im starting to colonize a substrate for a Xerocomus Subtomentosus cultivation experiment.. The mycelium seems to be taking hold fairly well, but how will i eventually get them to fruit? Can I get them to fruit? Pff.. Has anyone ever tried this?

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Re: Xerocomus Cultivation? [Re: Tamrylin]
    #418726 - 10/08/01 07:50 PM (22 years, 5 months ago)

uh, yeah.. lotsa replies.. Just to clarify (maybe) a bit, xerocomus subtomentosus is also known as boletus subtomentosus and uh... some other thing then subtomentosus..

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Re: Xerocomus Cultivation? [Re: Tamrylin]
    #419586 - 10/09/01 12:47 PM (22 years, 5 months ago)

From my understanding(which is just speculative) ones of the xercomus species are mycorrhizzal. Now is this one of the king boletes. Here in NC we have what we call king bolete but is taxonomically different from the european.

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Re: Xerocomus Cultivation? [Re: Jahson]
    #419798 - 10/09/01 03:35 PM (22 years, 5 months ago)

Hm, im fairly sure its not mycorrhizzal seeing as how the mycelium is spreading over the substrate ( i made it up, the contents of the substrate, that is) fairly quickly. I used a honeywater mycelium tek on it, and.. unless all that white mycelium i see is really mold, i doubt its mycorrhizzal ... Unless, of course, i have no clue what im talking about

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Re: Xerocomus Cultivation? [Re: Tamrylin]
    #419953 - 10/09/01 06:02 PM (22 years, 5 months ago)

If you are referring to any mushroom in the genus Boletus, it is definitely mycorrhizal. Just because it can grow as a saprophyte doesn't mean it's not mycorrhizal. You need to find out what type of tree it grows with and innoculate the roots of a seedling invitro. Once the tree has established mycorrhizae, you can plant it outdoors and hope that it will fruit some day...


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Re: Xerocomus Cultivation? [Re: Azure]
    #421725 - 10/11/01 07:20 AM (22 years, 5 months ago)

definitely? hmmm....your not a scientist are you. People do ASSUME that all boleti are mycorrhizal. I am not for sure. I have talk with some boletiologists though.

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Re: Xerocomus Cultivation? [Re: Jahson]
    #423958 - 10/12/01 03:01 PM (22 years, 5 months ago)

Um, cool.. but this one is only sometimes classified as boletus.. usually xerocomus. Uh.. so ill just let the rest colonize, ,i guess... ill try to make it fruit and if it doesnt ill plant it under a pretty coniferous tree..


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Re: Xerocomus Cultivation? [Re: Jahson]
    #426858 - 10/15/01 10:39 PM (22 years, 5 months ago)

YOu might want to ask a mycologist, Jahson.

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Re: Xerocomus Cultivation? [Re: Azure]
    #427155 - 10/16/01 08:18 AM (22 years, 5 months ago)

As far as I know, the only non mycorrhizal bolete is
Xerocomus Parasiticus that lives as a parasite on Scleroderma Citrinum

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Re: Xerocomus Cultivation? [Re: zeronio]
    #427287 - 10/16/01 11:37 AM (22 years, 5 months ago)

No it is probably better to ask some one who has spent years and years on one genus or better yet a few species of one genus. Mycologist is a general term for anyone who endeavors in the broad field of mycology. :) I just liked the word anyhow.....I saw this really great book that goes into the taxonomy of boletes in general and used that word.


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Re: Xerocomus Cultivation? [Re: Tamrylin]
    #429704 - 10/18/01 06:48 PM (22 years, 5 months ago)

Hm.. damn.. how would i inoculate the roots of a tree with this stuff then, presuming that i figure out what kind of tree?


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Re: Xerocomus Cultivation? [Re: Tamrylin]
    #434822 - 10/23/01 11:10 PM (22 years, 4 months ago)

What you would have to do is grow a culture on agar, and once the mycelium fully colonizes the substrate, you'd place a sterilized seed from the desired tree. Once the seed produces a bunch of roots, you could slowly introduce the seedling into sterilized potting soil and grow it out from there.

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Re: Xerocomus Cultivation? [Re: Azure]
    #435073 - 10/24/01 06:01 AM (22 years, 4 months ago)

i see... damn. thatll take a while.. Well, ive just dumped my colonizing substrate into the trash. ( partly from a bit of contamination... heh)


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