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Diploid
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Re: My apartment complex runins [Re: tak]
#4370610 - 07/04/05 10:36 PM (18 years, 10 months ago) |
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You cannot change the lock. The property is not yours, and the owners have the legal right to access the property.
In Florida, they have to give you 24 hour notice before entering, but they don't always do this, and there's really not much you can do about it.
Don't pull a gun, you won't improve things and you risk involving the cops who will usually take the property owner's side.
My suggestion is that you install a chain or bolt lock that you can secure whenever you're home. This will prevent them from entering after a couple knocks and surprising you.
As for when you're not home, like I said, they're required to give notice, but if they don't there's not much you can do about it. I'd suggest you complain to the office, in writing, about your cat. At least there will be a written record of your complaint if it ever becomes a legal issue before a judge.
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Re: My apartment complex runins [Re: Diploid]
#4372181 - 07/05/05 12:27 PM (18 years, 10 months ago) |
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In Florida, they have to give you 24 hour notice before entering, but they don't always do this, and there's really not much you can do about it.
It is not a very bright idea for them to come in unannounced. A good friend of mine almost killed two maintenence guys that came into his apartment without permission. Both guys ended up in the hospital, one was in pretty bad shape.
My friend in this instance was a sniper in the US Marines. He had been... doing illegal things... under orders, in central and south america. (put two and two together...) Whenever he would come back from a mission, he was always very tightly wound... so tightly that the guy slept with a gun in his hand. Of course, if I had just spent three weeks in the jungle getting shot at, I would be wound up pretty tightly too.
Anyway, he had just gotten back from a mission and was alseep in the apartment. Two maintenence guys came in while he was sleeping. He wakes up and hears two guys speaking spanish... next thing he knows, one guy is a bloody heap on the floor and what is left of the other is begging for his life.
As far as I know, nothing bad ever happened to my friend because of this. The apartment complex didn't realize he was back since he was always gone and hadn't bothered to inform him that they were coming in. The military probably also helped smooth things out, but that is a guess on my part.
Moral of the story... don't go into people's homes, even if you think it is ok, unless you speak with them first. Other moral of the story... if you think that the US doesn't send soldiers to assassinate people from other countries that don't agree with the US' anti-drug policies... think again... (I can't speak for the current admin, but I know for fact that during the Clinton years that this was happening.)
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Re: My apartment complex runins [Re: Seuss]
#4372239 - 07/05/05 12:51 PM (18 years, 10 months ago) |
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Have you ever seen A clear and Present Danger? That movie was the shit. Thats what that post reminded me of.
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Yep, Tom Clancy is brilliant.
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Re: My apartment complex runins [Re: tak]
#4373129 - 07/05/05 06:04 PM (18 years, 10 months ago) |
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i had the same problem in my apartment last year, except no cat. they always came in uninvited to fix things or show people the apartment when i was moving out. when i put in a work order they came whenever, even if i wasnt home. i didnt think it was a big deal. i was just careful not to have anything out in the open.
one time they came in when i was smoking a joint on my balcony, the lady that came in was showing someone the apartment. the sixty year old guy that was looking at the apt was like "hmmm, smells good in here." and gave me a smile. the lady that opened the door knew what was up and she was very apologetic. she was hot too.
although i have had some very close calls in that apartment a couple of times, but i won't get into those. all i can say is i would still be in jail right now if i had been caught.
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> Have you ever seen A clear and Present Danger?
I have seen the movie and it is probably pretty close to what my friend was doing. He would never talk directly about the missions, but he would discuss some of the things that happened during them... such as getting shot at, being tracked by enemy troops and rescued by friendly troops, not using anything US military issue, shooting wild animals in the bush to eat, etc... I also am fairly certain I know a few of his targets by matching newspapers stories up with when I knew he was away. If I am correct, then the US government certainly doesn't follow it's own laws with respect to foriegn government officials and assassinations.
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Re: My apartment complex runins [Re: Seuss]
#4446035 - 07/24/05 05:12 AM (18 years, 9 months ago) |
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No matter what anyone says, get a gun, when homeboy comes walking in, hit him with a LOUD "FREEZE!" Point that gun at him and tell him that the next time he walks in here, you "MAY" not realise who he is and could "accidentally" blow his fucking head off. Make sure you look at him in a way that shows you'd do it on purpose. You cannot get in trouble for this. Especially not in GA. In Ga. if somebody is sitting at your kitchen table eating you mac and cheese, you can blow them away, if the maintanence man walks in ininvited, without yelling or anything, you can blow him away. By the way, I have shot two people. And the police know all about it, and whenever I run into a cop and he asks me about it, he always tells me I am a good shot and congrats.
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Re: My apartment complex runins [Re: tak]
#4446287 - 07/24/05 08:55 AM (18 years, 9 months ago) |
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root-ninja-tak said: Here in florida we are allowed to shoot anyone, anywhere.
strange because my uncle was convicted in florida for attempted murder, he plead self defense and the judge said "Son, in Florida, there is no self defense law"
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Re: My apartment complex runins [Re: Prisoner#1]
#4446350 - 07/24/05 09:45 AM (18 years, 9 months ago) |
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That's funny, the judge called your uncle "son".
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Re: My apartment complex runins [Re: Mighty Bop]
#4446379 - 07/24/05 09:59 AM (18 years, 9 months ago) |
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Hey dood, next time do not move into a "complex" as they suck dick.
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Re: My apartment complex runins [Re: Realnuggetz]
#4446384 - 07/24/05 10:02 AM (18 years, 9 months ago) |
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Realnuggetz said: No matter what anyone says, get a gun, when homeboy comes walking in, hit him with a LOUD "FREEZE!" Point that gun at him and tell him that the next time he walks in here, you "MAY" not realise who he is and could "accidentally" blow his fucking head off. Make sure you look at him in a way that shows you'd do it on purpose. You cannot get in trouble for this. Especially not in GA. In Ga. if somebody is sitting at your kitchen table eating you mac and cheese, you can blow them away, if the maintanence man walks in ininvited, without yelling or anything, you can blow him away. By the way, I have shot two people. And the police know all about it, and whenever I run into a cop and he asks me about it, he always tells me I am a good shot and congrats.
How dare you insult my intelligence when this clearly proves your level of intellect is far below mine. One key to being intellegent is never insulting someone. The biggest insult to someone is them being angry at you, which really means they are just angry at themself.
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Re: My apartment complex runins [Re: Fluxburn]
#4447147 - 07/24/05 03:07 PM (18 years, 9 months ago) |
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Bro. I dont know how many times you've been in court, but so long as you dont actually shoot the maintanence guy, you'd be straight. I really wouldn't recommend blowing the guy away, but him walking into that gun would teach him a lesson, and he prolly wouldnt call the cops anyway, but if he did, you'd be justified. By the way, I am sorry, that comment about you being a moron was a little over the line, and I am not pissed by any means, in any way. I have just seen too many good hippie kids thinking "oh, it's not going to happen to me" and it does. I personally have not had my trash violated, but I know a number of people who have. All it takes is one itsy bitsy tip to start an investigation that will royally screw up somebodys life.
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Re: My apartment complex runins [Re: tak]
#4447662 - 07/24/05 05:46 PM (18 years, 9 months ago) |
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Change the doorknob on the bedroom at least, change it to a keyed-entry one.
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Re: My apartment complex runins [Re: Smallworlds]
#5408541 - 03/16/06 01:47 PM (18 years, 2 months ago) |
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IMHO you should just move. Dont even give notice, site the invaision of your privacy as the reason for breaking the lease. Get a new apt. lined up and just start movin your stuff out. When they ask why, THEN shoot 'em (jk) When they ask why tell them that's what they get for not respecting your privacy. these people work for you, they may think they are smarter than you because they use property to make money while you spend money for it, but they need to be put in check, YOU pay THEM snd they better realize that they shouldn't piss you off.
Also I agree with the people who advocate brandishing weapons at these people, but I would remind those people that accidents can happen very easily when angry and handling guns. Kick them, hit them, mace them, baseball bat them, tazer them, bean-bag-round them, but please think about not pulling a loaded lethal firearm on the maintenance guy because the landlord is being a bitch, It may not even be the guy's fault, maybe the secretary told him that you were notified or maybe there's a general lack of communication in how they run things.
Oh, and I used to change locks on all the apts. I rented,even though its a slight legal no-no, it's a good way to tip the landlords hand on whether he's coming in your place un-invited, if he want's to get pissed about the lock, he has to admit he tried to open it. if the original poster is still 'round id like to hear what happened/? are they still bugging you?
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Re: My apartment complex runins [Re: TheWay]
#5408687 - 03/16/06 02:31 PM (18 years, 2 months ago) |
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Maybe he has?
The last post in this thread was before you even registered.
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Re: My apartment complex runins [Re: Koala Koolio]
#5409393 - 03/16/06 05:16 PM (18 years, 2 months ago) |
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change your locks and re-read your lease man.
im POSITIVE that in most apartment complexes, you can not just walk into someones apartment without a good amount of times noticem, at least 24 hours.
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tak
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they have not done it since when i complained.
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Re: My apartment complex runins [Re: tak]
#5411994 - 03/17/06 09:34 AM (18 years, 2 months ago) |
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i just wanna say having a gun is a good idea, but pointing it anyone is not a good idea. the only reason you should have a gun pointing at someone is if they have a gun pointing at you or someone you love.
as for changing the lock, im sure theres all sorts of safety hazards and such. they have a master key for the apts because they own the apartments and sometimes they need to access the apt in the case of emergencies such as fires or major water leaks. changin the lock would most likely get you kicked out.
i think the best thing to do is to get the little chain thingy and make a huge deal about it. if someone walks in, scream at em like crazy. there is nothing wrong with acting like an idiot to scare people away. ya know whatd be even better? get naked and wave your penis around like a fire hose. that crap will keep them out for good.
or you could just move out.
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Re: My apartment complex runins [Re: rDr4g0n]
#5431816 - 03/22/06 08:59 PM (18 years, 2 months ago) |
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5 DEAD BOLTS ON FRONT DOOR
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Re: My apartment complex runins [Re: cyberthreat]
#5439405 - 03/24/06 08:03 PM (18 years, 1 month ago) |
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Fuck that just sleep with a assualt rifle next to your bed, and next time they come in without you knowing act all shocked and whip that shit out and be like WHO THE FUCK ARE YOU, just start yelling and telling them to not fucking move, let them explain, who they are, and then be like oh shit man, sorry... I been paranoid, i told the office a bazillion times not to come in unannouced like that.
You probably won't ever have that kind of problem again. Also make sure you can have weapons in your apartment, and you might be prepared for the LEO to come just in case and question you.
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