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OfflineGodspeed
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Getting a bit eager to start growing, considering birthing a cake early
    #4344442 - 06/27/05 06:48 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

yea, i know. the rate they are going though, i may have to hold the eventually fully colonized cakes for a month or more, because i'm leaving mid august and some of the jars are only half way. i'm still doing the brf cakes, 1pint jars. bastards are going slow. i think it's because i bought the real fine vermiculite, when i used the coarser stuff before they grew faster. but i don't know, it's only been three weeks really since the mycelium started growing, and maybe 4/10 of the jars are a week away from full colonization.

i've got the martha closet and cabinets, i'm going to pick up a coolmist. still looking for lime or oyster. is there much harm in taking a cake thats 3/4 colonized and casing it? i was thinking about using the verm that isn't colonized as the layer below the mycelium, and then put the peat/verm mix on top of that. just small casings, you know?

i'd like try this setup out and get it right before i have all my cakes ready day after day. if an issue comes up, all those casings are going to be at fault because i'm not experienced.

what do you guys think about taking one or two jars out early and casing them? also, i'm worried i won't get a good print by the time i have to move back to my apartment, and i'd like at least a couple from each strain i'm growing out. no time for lc, but i've got 3-4 cc's of each strain left, so i'll do that there

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Re: Getting a bit eager to start growing, considering birthing a cake early [Re: Godspeed]
    #4344522 - 06/27/05 07:13 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

if you dont mind wasting the cake I dont see why not I have birthed brf cakes at 90% many times since I have always used LC I never cared about losing the $0.75 in substrate when 10 out of 12 jars was fully colonized. once out of the jars they would finish in like 2 days with fuzzy growth on the uncolonized parts


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Re: Getting a bit eager to start growing, considering birthing a cake early [Re: ArcanePerception]
    #4344532 - 06/27/05 07:16 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

so if i was to do a casing with the cake, the verm that is left uncolonized i could use as the bottom layer below the mycelium covered verm?

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Re: Getting a bit eager to start growing, considering birthing a cake early [Re: Godspeed]
    #4344964 - 06/27/05 09:12 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

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Godspeed said:
so if i was to do a casing with the cake, the verm that is left uncolonized i could use as the bottom layer below the mycelium covered verm?




anyone?

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Re: Getting a bit eager to start growing, considering birthing a cake early [Re: Godspeed]
    #4344993 - 06/27/05 09:20 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

I would just break the whole thing up and not worry about it.

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Re: Getting a bit eager to start growing, considering birthing a cake early [Re: optic]
    #4345023 - 06/27/05 09:30 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

break it up in the casing tray and add the casing layer on top of it? should i add some extra verm for the bottom layer in addition to what hasn't been colonized from the cake?

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Re: Getting a bit eager to start growing, considering birthing a cake early [Re: Godspeed]
    #4345061 - 06/27/05 09:48 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

You better be a pretty damn sterile guy if your gonna get away with this one...

Id wait.

Edit: and id also add moist sterile verm for the bottom layer, and a new casing layer for the top with something better than just verm.


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Re: Getting a bit eager to start growing, considering birthing a cake early [Re: pcubmycol]
    #4345094 - 06/27/05 10:03 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

well i was going to do 50/50 peat/verm for the casing layer. i could use this as the bottom layer too.

if i cut off the uncolonized part of the cake, that's pretty safe, no?

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Re: Getting a bit eager to start growing, considering birthing a cake early [Re: Godspeed]
    #4345106 - 06/27/05 10:09 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

yes it is... use a sterilized knife obviously. I just use verm on the bottom, you dont want any fruiting down there so i never bothered with using a peat/verm, or coir or w/e down there. IMO 60/40 is the best ratio for peat/verm. Id try to find some hydrated lime too. Good luck.


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Re: Getting a bit eager to start growing, considering birthing a cake early [Re: pcubmycol]
    #4345180 - 06/27/05 10:33 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

yea lime, i've still got to find something along those lines. well i'll try it out i guess, i mean some of the cakes won't be done for at least 2-3 weeks, i want to start something.

i'll just cut away the uncolonized verm and put fresh verm on the bottom. but i mean the verm that isn't colonized from the cake, how could that hurt it being there? it's sterile, and probably already growing some mycliuem. right?

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Re: Getting a bit eager to start growing, considering birthing a cake early [Re: Godspeed]
    #4346189 - 06/28/05 07:48 AM (18 years, 8 months ago)

Don't do it. You're only gunna be selling yourself short on substrate. Just give it time to finish and you'll be much more happy.

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