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Offlineleery11
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Safety of Morning Glory water extraction?
    #4335636 - 06/25/05 01:05 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

I'm considering doing it (coffee grind desired amount, shake/sit in water for a while, filter water, drink) but erowid has this to say

"A second chemical or complex is much more malicious. Ingesting it results in headache, blurred and 'fish-eye' vision, and it also seems to counteract the psychedelic effect.................. If you put the powder in water, filter the water, and drink it (effectively the traditional method for indigenous peoples), the nausea factor will be pronounced, but the 'strychnine effect' will be weak"
(http://www.erowid.org/plants/morning_glory/morning_glory_faq.shtml)

so is this safe? How bad is the nausea and the dillution of the trip? Will you still get a clear high with visuals and euphoria? I do not think I can find petroleum ether and doubt I am old enough to legally buy high proof ethyl alcohol, so this is really the only extraction method I can do.

For those of you that have done this frequently, is it better to get morning glory seeds or HBR for this method? Have you had any success with the seeds salviasupply.com offers?

the last thing I need the first time I try "acid" (i know its somewhat different) is a bad trip due to physical discomfort/pain.... can you take any OTC's before tripping to prevent this? (i may not have access to certain therapeutic herbal remedies)


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Edited by leery11 (06/25/05 01:06 PM)


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Invisiblep4kSouL
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Re: Safety of Morning Glory water extraction? [Re: leery11]
    #4335672 - 06/25/05 01:27 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

I went to a local plant store and bought like 8 packs of heavenly blue. I did a water extraction, noticed no nausea and I hallucinated my balls off. It will work, just smoke weed when you do it.


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Re: Safety of Morning Glory water extraction? [Re: p4kSouL]
    #4335676 - 06/25/05 01:28 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Oh yeah I had a bad trip when I did it, lsa pretty much multiplied the paranoia of the weed like times 50, everyone is different though.


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Re: Safety of Morning Glory water extraction? [Re: p4kSouL]
    #4336970 - 06/25/05 08:33 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Well, considering that LSA is 5-10% as potent as LSD, and that there are very few hallucinogenic drugs that produce "true" hallucinations, I doubt you "hallucinated your balls off." LSA is more geared toward changes in perception. As for the water extraction, I have read many reports of people who found a stringy substance in the water after the powder has soaked. They filtered this out in a strainer and experience little or no nausea. I can't recall exactly what the substance is, but it is what causes most of the nausea.


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Re: Safety of Morning Glory water extraction? [Re: WeAreAllOne]
    #4338062 - 06/26/05 02:10 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

i thought lsd was 25 times more potent - erowid


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Re: Safety of Morning Glory water extraction? [Re: liveby]
    #4338068 - 06/26/05 02:11 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

I've had good experiences with LSA, but it certainly doesn't compare to LSD.


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Re: Safety of Morning Glory water extraction? [Re: Trav]
    #4343340 - 06/27/05 03:53 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

hmm.

so i can just go to any store that sells gardening stuff and buy a couple some packs of heavenly blues, for example? will they look at me funny? (and yeah if i get them from a store i need to scrub them with detergent)

i've heard that some people get strong visuals comparable to acid on LSA in medium/high doses.


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Om Namah Shivaya, I tell you What!


Edited by leery11 (06/27/05 04:02 PM)


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Re: Safety of Morning Glory water extraction? [Re: leery11]
    #4343833 - 06/27/05 05:53 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

I'm not too sure, but I think you might be able to find Morning Glory seeds for sale at Home Depot. I frequent the place, buying materials and such for the various jobs I work (in construction) and I've passed by the garden section a couple times. They sell all kinds of seed packets for a variety of different plants/flowers. I'm not sure if they'd be sterile or not, but it's worth a try at least.


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Re: Safety of Morning Glory water extraction? [Re: Undying]
    #4343874 - 06/27/05 06:01 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

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....I embrace my desire to feel the rhythm, to feel connected enough to step aside and weep like a widow, to feel inspired, to fathom the power, to witness the beauty, to bathe in the fountain, to swing on the spiral of our divinity and still be a human......
Om Namah Shivaya, I tell you What!


Edited by gdman (06/27/05 09:39 PM)


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Re: Safety of Morning Glory water extraction? [Re: leery11]
    #4346967 - 06/28/05 03:54 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

hm i find LSA just as good, if not even better, than as LSD. It's become my favorite psychedelic. And to whoever said he doubted the other guy hallucinated his balls off... sounds like you havnt had a real Morning glory trip and really SEEN its GLORY! I know for a FACT you can hallucinate pretty wild, I've seen the most remarkable things on LSA. True hardcore hallucinations, and to me it compares greatly with LSD. I usually just mucnh down the seeds raw, chew them very well and swallow. It may upset your stomach making you puke somewhat in the trip, but then it gets all fine again. I am however working on extractions these days to compare with raw seeds ingestions. My typical dose is around 800-1000 seeds, the most I have done was 1500 and then i tripped for 2 days straight. With hardcore hallucinations.


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Re: Safety of Morning Glory water extraction? [Re: shaganoz]
    #4361493 - 07/02/05 12:26 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

i know that this sounds dumb but where can i find that water extract method? does it tell you about doseges and requirements?


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Re: Safety of Morning Glory water extraction? [Re: JoeyBond]
    #4362651 - 07/02/05 11:24 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Eating the seeds chopped up or whole sucks, the feeling is horrible and whenever I think about it I shiver. Never tried a true extraction method though which I'm sure is much much better. I got some 100% untreated seeds which shouldn't have any pesticides or whatever causes the naseau but it was still present. I read somewhere if you eat a little ginger before trying them it helps fight it. Seemed to work a little bit the first time, or it might of just have been the weed?


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Re: Safety of Morning Glory water extraction? [Re: PlasticFantastic]
    #4374460 - 07/06/05 02:59 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Just a comment for leery11.

Yes, you can get them at Home Depot and many other places. If you get seed at a retail store, they are likely to have been treated with a harsh chemical. Yeah, they know people "eat them to get high" and the idea is to discourage this. Best thing to do is grow them and eat the resulting seed the following season. Or buy you seed from an organic source.


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